My best shia friend had an argument with me about this topic and I proved him in the light of sunnah and hadiath that it is preffered to eat with fingers because our Anhazoor :saw: used to do it. He :saw: also use to lick the fingers after finishing up the meal.
Offcourse I firmly believe in the fact that whatever my prophet :saw: did was for some best reasons.
What I want to know is that, what is the medical relation of this with digesting food and all ( I am asuming that it has something to do with digestion ).
Could some one explain this in convincing DETAILS and prefferably with links so i could show it to him that it is scientifically proven ?
-Salman
*Edit : Some hadiath that i found out later by googling
**Hadeeth Shareef: ‘Hadrat Jaabir said that Hadrat Sayyidinaa wa Maulaanaa Muhammad commanded the licking of the fingers and the eating utensils (after finishing the meal) and said: you do not know which part of your food contains the Barakah. Muslim
Hadeeth Shareef: ‘ It is the saying of Hadrat Sayyidinaa wa Maulaanaa Muhammad that the one who licks his plate and his fingers (after eating), Allaah keeps him contented in the Dunyaa as well as the Aakhirah. Nuzhatul Majaalis
Hadeeth Shareef: ‘Hadrat Nubaishah has narrated that Hadrat Sayyidinaa wa Maulaanaa Muhammad said: "Any one who licks the eating utensil after eating, that utensil will seek Astaghfaar for him. Ibn Maajah
An amazing and touching Hadeeth Shareef: Hadrat Sayyidinaa wa Maulaanaa Muhammad has said: "To lick a bowl (after eating) is dearer to me than to give that bowl full of food in Sadaqah (charity). Meaning that the humility that is present in the licking, has more Thawaab (rewards) than giving that food in Sadaqah. Masnad Hasan bin Sufiaan
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I have never seen any scientific evidence for this. All of the evidence indicates it is more unhealthy to eat with hands, if they are not thoroughly washed. Hands have more germs than any other part of the body, because they are used to touch everything!
Also, why not eat with left hand if thoroughly washing hands before eating is the best way to eat? Is the left hand impossible to wash thoroughly because the germs from washing one's backside are impossible to remove. Its just a cultural thing that people eat with washed right hand.
I am sorry to say but both of you are wrong. Madhanee you wouldnt understand because you are not a muslim. Sunnat means a lot to us.
We believe if our prophet used to do it then there was surely a sense to it why he did it. It might not apparent to us the things that he did but yes they have some extreme meaning of each and everything he did.
Haroon Eating from right hand is Sunnat. I do not know where you getting the washing part from at least i did say anything about washing or not washing the hands may be you want take a step back and tell me/us what you had in your mind that you are reffering to ? A background would be great of what you are saying.
Personally I yet have to know any body who only washes his right hand and not left hand. I think all the people of the world when they wash hands they wash their both hands, not just one.
I am pretty optimistic about this that their is a sceintific reasoning for eating with your hands/fingers and defnitley licking your fingers after your meal.
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*Originally posted by SalmanNY: *
I am sorry to say but both of you are wrong. Madhanee you wouldnt understand because you are not a muslim. Sunnat means a lot to us.
We believe if our prophet used to do it then there was surely a sense to it why he did it. It
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Maybe because clean utensils were not available in the desert during Muhammed's time? Dishwashers of today can clean and disinfect utensils better than any hand washing.
Many sickness are attributed to getting germs and bacteria from putting hands in the mouth and studies have shown that washing with water alone does not remove bacteria. Water and soap are necessary.
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I am pretty optimistic about this that their is a sceintific reasoning for eating with your hands/fingers and defnitley licking your fingers after your meal
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Scientific reasoning to lick your fingers? Now that is definitely a cultural thing. The only time it is acceptable in the US is when eating Kentucky Fried Chicken. Maybe it was because they didn't have disposable napkins or washing machines to wash the cloth napkins?
Again wrong, Yea i might not be able to find a 101% scientific and logical explaination, but stand alone that Prophet :saw: did it means a lot to me. Whether it is harmful or not, I must and should do it for the sake of that person for whom i was made, adam was made.
Here are some explaitnations in the light of sunnah and hadiath why one should lick their fingers after the meal.
**Hadeeth Shareef: ‘Hadrat Jaabir said that Hadrat Sayyidinaa wa Maulaanaa Muhammad commanded the licking of the fingers and the eating utensils (after finishing the meal) and said: you do not know which part of your food contains the Barakah. Muslim
Hadeeth Shareef: ‘ It is the saying of Hadrat Sayyidinaa wa Maulaanaa Muhammad that the one who licks his plate and his fingers (after eating), Allaah keeps him contented in the Dunyaa as well as the Aakhirah. Nuzhatul Majaalis
Hadeeth Shareef: ‘Hadrat Nubaishah has narrated that Hadrat Sayyidinaa wa Maulaanaa Muhammad said: "Any one who licks the eating utensil after eating, that utensil will seek Astaghfaar for him. Ibn Maajah
An amazing and touching Hadeeth Shareef: Hadrat Sayyidinaa wa Maulaanaa Muhammad has said: "To lick a bowl (after eating) is dearer to me than to give that bowl full of food in Sadaqah (charity). Meaning that the humility that is present in the licking, has more Thawaab (rewards) than giving that food in Sadaqah. Masnad Hasan bin Sufiaan
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Madhanee you wouldnt understand because you are not a muslim.<<<
Salman, are you suggesting that Muslims know nothing about the traditions and practices of non-Muslims? Well, next time you open your Islami mouth about non-Muslim practices, I will remind you of your quote. Jazakallah for giving me a heads up.
Let me ask you this. How did the Jews eat their food during the time of Prophet Mohammad? May be you are following Jewish traditions?
Madhanee you wouldnt understand because you are not a muslim.<<<
Salman, are you suggesting that Muslims know nothing about the traditions and practices of non-Muslims? Well, next time you open your Islami mouth about non-Muslim practices, I will remind you of your quote. Jazakallah for giving me a heads up.
Let me ask you this. How did the Jews eat their food during the time of Prophet Mohammad? May be you are following Jewish traditions?
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Yes and No ; I am suggesting you that Muslim do not know the traditions and culture of non-muslims to the fullest and vice versa. No matter what one does, a person can NEVER learn the pure practices and traditions of a culture that he/she is NOT born. It will take you a life time to learn a dialect of a specific language other than your OWN language.
Having said that, Yes I do claim that as you being non-muslim you will never know what the Sunnah means to a Muslim. Yea you might know that it means a lot but thats it. You wouldnt know why it means a lot why it has such extereme value.
Besides everything your first post and your re-post are irrelevant to this thread because it is not a traditional thing to ANY true muslim. Its more of a RELIGIOUS thing by all the aspects. I hope you and your non-islamic mouth will understand this.
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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
Salman, don't listen to them. Continue eating with your hands and licking. Its the straight path to jannah. Ameen sum ameen.
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Thanx faisal bahi... but I dont lick my fingers all the time but i am making it a habbit. BTW, yea it might be ONE of the many small things to the way of jannah but would be wrong to say the ONLY way to jannah :)
-Salman
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Salman, don't listen to them. Continue eating with your hands and licking. **Its the straight path to jannah.* Ameen sum ameen.
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INdeed it is.....some one belive it or not.....following sunnah is the only way we can succeed in our worldly life......
And madhanee bhai......at least u have some special ritual of dying at very special place......i hope u'll foloow that ....
Anyway, I am very interested in these issues. They clearly show how firmly we stand on things that should clearly take a priority in our lives. Good job! :k:
I'm sorry Salman. I was just trying to think of a scientific explanation. I thought the reason for eating with right hand is because it is not supposed to be used for you know what. To me, the scientific reason for that seems to be that the right hand is cleaner, especially in the past times when soap was not available.
As far as the licking goes, I can't think of a scientific reason, but it may be symbolic to show humility, respect and gratitude for the food we have been provided by licking every last drop and not wasting?? I'm not an expert and if someone can provide a scientific reason for licking one's fingers and bowl, I'm all ears!
As far as the licking goes, I can't think of a scientific reason, but it may be symbolic to show humility, respect and gratitude for the food we have been provided by licking every last drop and not wasting?? I'm not an expert and if someone can provide a scientific reason for licking one's fingers and bowl, I'm all ears!
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Brother you got it all right 101 %. That is the whole point behind it.
*Faisal bhai * Thank you for your encourgement. You have no idea how much i apprecaited it :)
bao Bao, you are posting less these days whats up ? Thanx for your input, indeed.
:jazak: SalmanNY MAy Allah reward you amply. I am not sure of the scientific resoning for this but as the Prophet :saw: did it , it is enough for me. All I care is that our beloved Prophet :saw: did it. and thats it!
I have an example. My grand father was a doctor and graduated in Delhi (India ) before partition. He happened to be the only Muslim doctor in his group. So, when the doctors learnt surgery , they first washed their hands and used a towel to dry them. My grandfather did not dry his hands with a towel and just left them in air so that they dry themselves. All his Hindu colleagues were amazed and laughed. He did it because he said that the Prophet :saw: did not use a towel after he washed his hands.
After several years it became a common practice for doctors not to dry their hands with a towel or maybe an ordinary towel before an operation. It was discovered that towel may have bacteria and its best to dry hands with air.
Just as an example about the mannerism in Islam told to Muslims 1400 years ago:
Infection may be transmitted through dirty hands or dirty food.
Hands: It is essential to wash our hands before and after meals. Our blessed Prophet told us:
“It is a blessing to wash your hands before and after meals” (Abu Daud & Tirmizi)
He has also advised us not to clean our hands with a towel before meals as they may convey infection from one person to the other particularly viral diseases like infective hepatitis or bacterial infection like Typhoid dysentries and cholera.
Or Prophet said “Whosover gets up from slumber should not dip his hand in any utensil unless he washes them three times, who knows what things he has been touching during sleep.” (Bokhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, Nisai)
Its only my personal opinion, I really enjoy eating with my hand, thats what we do at home always, initially when we migrated to USA, I did try the Knife and Fork option at restaurants, but somehow I always left hungry (Kabhi Sabar Nahin Aya).
Now even at restaurants I use my fingers, and my wife sometimes uses a spoon, and my kids dont know anything but a Knife and Fork.
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*Originally posted by Renegade: *
in eating with out hands????
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Eating without hands is very tough. Cz then you will either be eating straight from your mouth or use some other body part, which is cumbersome. My sympathies to all those who don't have hands. May Allah bless you all and give you extra sawab for the hardship you have to endure in this world.
