Ben Carson: We should never elect a Muslim president

This why no sane person should vote for GOP.

Ben Carson, GOP presidential candidate: We should never elect a Muslim president - Washington Times

By Ben Wolfgang - The Washington Times - Sunday, September 20, 2015

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump fired back at the White House over the weekend and said he is under no obligation to defend President Obama from critics, even if those who repeat false claims that the president is a Muslim or wasn’t born in the U.S.

Mr. Trump has come under intense fire in recent days after failing to correct a questioner at a campaign rally who said Mr. Obama is a foreign-born Muslim. Mr. Trump — who leads the GOP presidential pack at 24 percent, according to a CNN poll released Sunday — fired back Saturday on Twitter, saying no one in the Obama administration would defend him from attacks.

He reiterated that position Sunday while also refusing to say unequivocally that Mr. Obama is a Christian and was indeed born in the U.S.

“I don’t get into it,” he said on ABC’s “This Week” program after being asked about the president’s religion and place of birth. “I think about jobs. I’m talking about the military. I don’t get into it. I mean, they ask that question, and I just want to talk about the things because, frankly, it’s no longer of interest to me. We’re beyond that, and it’s just something I don’t talk about … I don’t talk about other people’s faith. It’s not appropriate for me to talk about somebody else’s faith.”

But Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton said Mr. Trump does have a moral responsibility to correct the record and not allow his supporters to spread falsehoods.

“He is fueling a level of paranoia and prejudice against all kinds of people. When you light those fires, you better recognize they can get out of control, and he should start dampening them down and putting them out,” Mrs. Clinton said Sunday on “Face the Nation” on CBS. “To play into some of the worst impulses people have these days that are really being lit up by the Internet and other conspiracy-minded theories is irresponsible. It’s appalling.”

The incident and its political fallout have forced other candidates to address whether they believe Mr. Obama is a Christian and was born in America.

Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who sits in third place in the GOP presidential primary field, said Sunday that he has “no reason to doubt” Mr. Obama’s faith or place of birth.

He did, however, make clear that he does not believe a Muslim should be president of the United States.

“No, I do not,” he said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” program after being asked whether a Muslim should be president. “I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.”

Mr. Carson added that he may be willing to support a Muslim for Congress, depending on the candidate’s specific record and views.

“If there is somebody who is of any faith but they say things and their life has been consistent with things that will elevate this nation and make it possible for everybody to succeed and bring peace and harmony, then I’m with them,” he said.

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“If there is somebody who is of any faith but they say things and their life has been consistent with things that will elevate this nation and make it possible for everybody to succeed and bring peace and harmony, then I’m with them,” he said."

This automatically disqualifies the good doctor.

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This is what Trump is doing to the GOP field. Carson just out-Trumped Trump.

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Issay kehtain hain parha lihka jaahil :chai:

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its just one of the several reasons. There are many out there. GOP goes totally against the real American Ideology and is the prime responsible for rise in hatred among different factions. Thats not what America is for. Pretty much everyone of them are strong supporter of Gun ownership as well and thus very well funded by NRA to protect their agenda and in-turn promoting violence in this country.

Obama has done a great job in 8 years tenure despite all the inherited problems and later challenges in congress/senate. Somehow i believe as a democrat that if we make the right strategy now and able to win 2016 seat, we can totally put a complete full-stop to their troll forever.

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You don’t have to do anything. Trump is doing it all by himself. When he suspends his campaign, all these jokers will be so far to the right, that nobody will vote for them. Even Bernie will be able to beat any one of them.

I wonder where Carson stands on Muslims in the armed forces ( Paging @CENTCOM )

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In other news, GOP is admonishing the Pope leave behind his 'liberal' agenda. If the Pope is more liberal than GOP, there is something seriously wrong with the world.

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Yes thats 100% true.. GOP is actually seeing themselves into a bit trouble cuz the authority whom they were relying on (Pope) is actually now turning its back towards them and GOP is totally in a very difficult position.

As per the famous meme... "Boht nazuk Soorat-e-haal hai.. " :D

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Kyon pai centcom ki deharri pe laat marne ke chakkar men ho?!

Btw is it just me who thinks clinton has run a very poor campaign so far?! And with this kinda performance there are chances Barnie sanders will end up beating her?

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She has, but there is reason behind it. She is waiting for the email controversy to die down. Maybe the State Department or the courts will come out and say she did nothing wrong, and it will invigorate her campaign. Clintons are good at timing these things.

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Another way Trump is having an effect on GOP pool:

Scott Walker suspending presidential campaign - The Washington Post

Scott Walker wanted to get to the right, but not that far. And he does not have Bush’s deep pockets to stick around till Trump’s campaign croaks. Next up is Jindhal.

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I made this post in the other thread:

Why are Muslims such a hot topic and punching bag in US politics? The kind of over the top and hostile Islamphobic nonsense I hear form there is unbelievable and depressing.

A British Pakistani Muslim has just been nominated as a candidate for Mayor of London (a proper Prime Minister in waiting type post), and it's a hardly an issue over here. Of course right wing press spins its usual editorial propaganda every now and then. On the other hand, we have Zac Goldsmith standing (Imran Khan's ex brother in law) where again, Asian Muslim votes can come in so handy if Imran Khan decides to campaign for him. So Muslim role in British politics or their future - hardly an issue, despite the fact we have 10 British Pakistani Muslims in the British Parliament. In 10 - 20 years time, any of those MPs can be a potential candidate for Premiership.

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So have muslims.

But as why are muslims a hot topic? Well, I don't know maybe cause mormons flew into WTC on 9/11? Middle east is in the news and ISIS has threatened and have had plots to try and attack america. There are christians who like it or not believe in an existential struggle between christianity and islam with the anti-christ being muslim.

I have always thought that europe has it bad and that even includes UK with anjum chaudhry type characters.

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From my limited understanding of how things are in Britain, I think these are the differences:

  1. Britain has a well-established community of Muslims that dates back several centuries, while the one in US is fairly new ( maybe about 100 years )
  2. Britain's muslims are organized and stick together and they have had time to have an affect on the British society, politics and economy. Muslims in US are just starting to.
  3. The conservative media in Britain is actually liberal by US standards. The conservative media in US is not only virulent, but also enjoy a degree of political power through their base. These are mostly, uneducated, rural and dogmatic christians. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, they are big enough within the Republican Party to be able to control their agenda.
  4. In Britain, Muslim participation in politics is relatively high. In US it is just getting started. There is one member of congress that is Muslim. Muslims constitute only 0.9 % of US population while in Britain it is nearly 2.8%

But things are changing. If you look at the response to Islam/Muslim issues the last couple of weeks, from non-muslim entities and persons, it is clear that things will change for better.

Also, this is silly season for us. Presidential politics. People will say a lot of stupid things the next two years. For now it is muslims/islam, wait till they start debating abortion, immigration and healthcare. (Dr. Carson and Dr. Paul have some interesting views on vaccinations ) Presidential politics have a way of weeding out extremists. Only someone who can talk and work with both sides will succeed.

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I think America has got more than its fair share of revenge for 9/11, so it is about time to stop using and abusing 9/11 rhetoric to humiliate and demonize your own citizens in such way.

Well Middle East is in news here as well. UK hasn't got it bad at all, if it had, a Pakistani Muslim would not have been nominated as Mayor of London candidate who actually stands a very good chance of winning considering London's diversity and recent surge in Labour's popularity. If he becomes the Mayor of London (one of the most important cities in the world), he'll practically be a Prime Minister is waiting type leader. None of this has sent any shock wave in the UK. Not trying to stir any who is better debate, but I am personally quite delighted by this difference.

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I agree with all of the above.

One of the main reason is that Britain actually has a very tolerant culture for criticism, dissent and activism. American Muslims, probably willingly won't take a belligerent stance against American wars, the way British Muslims have criticised Iraq War, Afghanistan, atrocities in Palestine etc. Hence one of the main reason why British Muslims are very expressive with their political opinions and criticism on state's foreign policies, and all that has contributed to community becoming politicised, more politically aware and more politically active. Also, because the state or the society doesn't ask them to define/justify their Britishness and wear it on their sleeves. There is very little of such pressure.

You'd find that British Muslims no matter how wacky their political opinions may be don't ever appear afraid or apologetic. They just say whatever...of course they say a lot of stupid things which embarrasses the community, but they have the freedom to hold such opinions and express them even if it upsets powerful lobbies and without caring about anyone questioning their Britishness. Supporting the Palestinian cause is one of the many examples.

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The irony is that America is most pro free speech country in the world probably moreso than Great Britain.

Btw, we have two now. One is the famous Keith Ellison from MN? and another one is from Indiana. At local level, there are actually Republican Pakistanis in Virginia in the state Assembly. But yes, indians are definitely more organized than Pakistanis or Muslims.

Speaking of Britain, didn't Richard Dawkins get in **** for his remarks on the clock case? :D Even Maher has gone back in his cocoon after liberal backlash viz his Islam comments.

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He only spoke out loud what other politicians believe in but are not willing to say.

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This is 1uite true. Other than Obama, all presidents have bend Christians.

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Maher has not gone back into his cocoon. He was spouting his usual garbage about Islam last week when discussing Ahmed.