Why people think believing in jin/black magic is ignorance? I dont support one blaming all bad things in life to jins/magic until no other reason found but I am really surprised the way people response immediately as soon as they hear words jadoo/jin. We all know they are mentioned in Quran. If you believe in Quran you got to believe in everything said in Quran.
I dont want to start another thread about whether jins/magic exist or not. I am more interested in responses from people labeling others mentioning these words. I sometimes feel some people think denial of these things make them look/sound more trendy, educated and modern and believing on this will make them old fashioned. What you guys think?
Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?
Magic/jadoo , Jinn , Satan , all are mentioned in Quran , so every Muslim has to accept them .
Now it can be debate able that does Jada/magic still exist ? Or Jinns can possess humans ? Or Satan works in the way some people want us to believe or in ways mentioned in Quran.
If some one says that the the kind of magic mentioned in Quran is not the one which people take it to be for example Kala Jadoo/Black Magic , Voodoo , or Jinns cannot harm humans then they are not denying Quran , they are denying the way people think it all works.
Yes there are many who reject even Quran because Quran has accepted the existence of Jinns , magic and Shaina, they are not Muslim .
Wallah ho Alim Bis Sawab.
Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?
Your other thread is a classic example.
200 years ago there was no scientific reasoning behind sleep paralysis, so it was attributed to jinn bhoot. Well, now there is. One's religious beliefs is a personal thing, so lets just leave it at that. I mean there are plenty of things where religion contradicts science.
200 years ago there was no scientific reasoning behind sleep paralysis, so it was attributed to jinn bhoot. Well, now there is. One's religious beliefs is a personal thing, so lets just leave it at that. I mean there are plenty of things where religion contradicts science.
Thats why I started this new thread. Instead fighting there please say your views here about this particular issue.
Thats why I started this new thread. Instead fighting there please say your views here about this particular issue.
I believe in both jinns and black magic. Since they are mentioned in the Quran, being a Muslim I have to believe in them. However, I do admit that sometimes people might be too quick in attributing things to jinns and/or black magic.
I believe in both jinns and black magic. Since they are mentioned in the Quran, being a Muslim I have to believe in them. However, I do admit that sometimes people might be too quick in attributing things to jinns and/or black magic.
200 years ago there was no scientific reasoning behind sleep paralysis, so it was attributed to jinn bhoot. Well, now there is. One's religious beliefs is a personal thing, so lets just leave it at that. I mean there are plenty of things where religion contradicts science.
True, but given that religion clearly states the existence of jinns, one would expect science to also try to offer up an explanation for jinn-like phenomena.
Our religion clearly states the existence of beings made of smokeless fire, that can act in ways that affect us.
People who don't believe in our faith would still be affected by those actions, and would seek explanations. In the past, their explanations came from their own faiths; but today they turn to science to offer up theories.
Black magic I am quick to dismiss. Whilst I don't deny that it is possible and was practiced before, I find it hard to believe that the past 1400 years of not only Islamic states and religious groups seeking out and purging its practitioners, but also by christian states and other faiths, would have failed to stamp it out by now. Now there is just plenty of space for charlatans to pretend and profit by it.
Jinns though.... actions of men cannot do anything about them.
True, but given that religion clearly states the existence of jinns, one would expect science to also try to offer up an explanation for jinn-like phenomena.
It does, in most cases.
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Our religion clearly states the existence of beings made of smokeless fire, that can act in ways that affect us.
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smokeless fire, I am sure you must have studied chemistry.
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People who don't believe in our faith would still be affected by those actions, and would seek explanations. In the past, their explanations came from their own faiths; but today they turn to science to offer up theories.
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People who dont believe in our fath can goto a doc and get treatment for sleep paralysis too. They dont need to goto our Pirs.
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Black magic I am quick to dismiss. Whilst I don't deny that it is possible and was practiced before, I find it hard to believe that the past 1400 years of not only Islamic states and religious groups seeking out and purging its practitioners, but also by christian states and other faiths, would have failed to stamp it out by now. Now there is just plenty of space for charlatans to pretend and profit by it.
Jinns though.... actions of men cannot do anything about them.
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The 'concept' of black magic existed even before Islam, from Hinduism to Christianity.
You should read more about what the founder of protestant Christianity said when he found out about Copernicus's theory about the earth revolving around the sun which contradicts a huge Christian belief. Again, religion is a very personal thing, believe what you want to, but dont expect others to agree with you when you believe sleep paralysis is a jinn phenomena.
shudnt dis be in relgion and scripture?
and i dont think belieiveing in jinn and jaddo is something old trend. dats someting dat exists. we just dont see many ppl doing jado and stufff openly or oftenly. about jins - isnt it said dat jinns are everywhere we j ust don tsee or feel dem. dare are evil and gud jins.
Why people think believing in jin/black magic is ignorance? I dont support one blaming all bad things in life to jins/magic until no other reason found but I am really surprised the way people response immediately as soon as they hear words jadoo/jin. We all know they are mentioned in Quran. If you believe in Quran you got to believe in everything said in Quran.
I dont want to start another thread about whether jins/magic exist or not. I am more interested in responses from people labeling others mentioning these words. I sometimes feel some people think denial of these things make them look/sound more trendy, educated and modern and believing on this will make them old fashioned. What you guys think?
**For all these problems there is also a sure fire solution too........
Reciting the last three quls is the strongest protection there is.........if we believe the evil creations of Allah(SWT).........we Got to believe in Allah's protection against them or else we are lacking in Iman..........Right?
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Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?
i wouldn’t call this old fashioned though… like take for instance the people who claim they have seen and believe in UFOs… most of them get the same rebuttals as any jin thumper would, minus the religious rhetoric. Would this mass suicide attempt be considered, ‘in fashion’ these days?
Why people think believing in jin/black magic is ignorance? I dont support one blaming all bad things in life to jins/magic until no other reason found but I am really surprised the way people response immediately as soon as they hear words jadoo/jin. We all know they are mentioned in Quran. If you believe in Quran you got to believe in everything said in Quran.
I dont want to start another thread about whether jins/magic exist or not. I am more interested in responses from people labeling others mentioning these words. I sometimes feel some people think denial of these things make them look/sound more trendy, educated and modern and believing on this will make them old fashioned. What you guys think?
Jinns and black magic do exist and are mentioned in Quran and it would be completely wrong to say I don't believe in these and label someone who do believe in them as "old fashioned". However, unlike what desis think, not every hurdle, sickness, hard luck is a result of black magic.
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Yes Jahil logs don't like my articles. The article which I quoted in above post has been published in research magazine published by Anthropology Department of University of Hyderabad, India.
My other articles have really surprized PHd Professors of USA and India... And there has been discussion among those Professors .... ABOUT ME
And my another article has been discussed in an American Radio Program with Zoologists... Topic of Program was "New Zoology".
This forum is actually meant for ordinary minded less wise people. I should not have come to this forum!
Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?
And I am writing against my ex girl friend in my other posts ... Actually I still love her too much... And she is also not any ordinary girl... She is extra genius girl...!
As others have mentioned, both jinns and magic are mentioned in the Quran so there is can be no doubt that they exist.
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However, I do admit that sometimes people might be too quick in attributing things to jinns and/or black magic.
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This is also true. Some people tend to jump to conclusions too quickly and consider any and all of their problems to be due to black magic or jinns but not everyone does like this. Also, on the other hand, I'd say that the people who will say that these things do not exist would be the ones I consider more jahil.
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Black magic I am quick to dismiss. Whilst I don't deny that it is possible and was practiced before, I find it hard to believe that the past 1400 years of not only Islamic states and religious groups seeking out and purging its practitioners, but also by christian states and other faiths, would have failed to stamp it out by now. Now there is just plenty of space for charlatans to pretend and profit by it.
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It's more common than you might think. It's mostly done by ones own family, usually out of jealousy and a lack/weakness of iman.
LOL iceburg..i'm not the one being the spectacle here! Yeah u shudn't join common people.. yawn we cud do without horrible English too! You actually make NO sense..all u're arguments and based on nothing..and do u think anyone really cares abt u're current,past.present gf's or u're love for them? We have a quality life and Alhamdulilah for that... I'd like to meet such PhD's that wud actually even spend a milli-sec on u're post in the other thread! Not unless they're PhD's in Moronlogy!
U don't deserve anymore of my time..yawn and I rathar watch paint dry then read u're useless banter and "articles"
Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?
GINA,
I had not called you jahil… but ok as you like to say…
I do get insults from jahil ppl … But I also get my due respect from right ppl.
As an example … see following link… foreign institutes are giving my articles as assignments to their students… You can find two articles of mine in this list: