believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?

Gina.. I don't know what your qualifications are, but having skimmed khuram's article, much it is dead on.

I don't have a PhD, but I do have a bachelors in religious studies.

You should really look at what people offer instead of slamming them because it doesn't support a confirmation bias.

Of course, I do recall your attitude (and several others), in a former thread about magic, wherein I had explained what magic IS, much of how it is practiced and so forth. I was belittled and considered a blasphemer for explaining the scientific method.

So I guess I can't really expect anything more.

Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?

She is angry because of some other reason... May be she is right.

But may be she not be knowing what girls of our 21st century Pakistan really do.

Only thing was that I didn't want to go into details ... and neither did I give any example of "golden views" of such highly educated girls of our own society.

Matinee perhaps u shud skim his other posts.. u'd come to know exactly what he's on about!

Iceburg keep at it u'll end-up sumwhere.. yawn

Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?

so should I share some golden views of innocent people???:)

^ Try the others, I most certainly am not interested..enjoy!

Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?

Then you should accept that person like me could be tourchered by the stupidities of some very innocent persons!

Otherwise u shud get ready to listen some golden views of innocent class!

The number u're trying can't be reached, please make sure u don't try again.

Iceburg lettuce why don't u "entertain" others and lemme go back to ignoring u!

Re: believing on black magic and jins is old fashioned?

U taking personal ... u know I don't need any more... here I am only debating... trying to get minds ready to accept some hard realities... Kash I entertained only one. But when she could entertain others ... then as revenge ... I also could entertain even more than those others. And at the same time ... I could stop her any further stupid entertainments also!

Thats all...!

i think that religiously we believe that magic (all magic is black?) and jinn exist and happen. However in muslim world little education wordly and heavenly has attributed to labelling many tangible things as magic and evil. Thus many muslims now shun the idea of magic and jinn totally. I would say denying existance of life that didnt fall into homo sapians would be very narrow. Science also enables us to udnerstand that humans have limited powers in all things matter, the way we see colour,hear sounds everything has to be at a certain wavelength or degree for it to be seen,heard and felt by us. Saying nothing exists other than us would be like saying we KNOW all there is to the world. I donot think any educated human being can make that claim for one certainty that comes out of all forms of knowledge (religious,scietific) is that we DONOT KNOW everything. So i think a momin scientific scholar would be at an advantage in pursuing the search for knowledge. my two befuddling cents.

Kala jadoo/jins etc do exist, its the lack of understanding people have of these things that cause problems. One little thing can go wrong in someones life and all of a sudden theyre claiming black magic has been done on them, or someone had put thavises on them. Thats why people are quick to dismiss the idea, because it starts to much bull****.