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Here are some quotes from the BBC’s people’s reaction to Lal Masjid stuff:

“If they were fighting with non-Muslims then they should bomb like this…”

“it is such a great tragedy. Muslims have killed Muslims - what could be worse?”

“The government could have held a longer dialogue. We can sit and have dialogues with the Indians, why couldn’t we talk to these people? They are fellow Muslims.”

Why do believers think that a believer’s life is far more sacred than a non-Believers? Its not a Muslim looking out for another Muslim thing, I have heard similar comments from some of my hard core Christian friends during the Bosnia war, where they would say why America, in their view a Christian nation, is bombing another Christian nation?

If someone is innocent, he is innocent regardless of his faith. If he is killed in vain, his life was as sacred as someone else’s. Isn’t it common sense?

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It strikes a different chord when it's your own kith and kin killing eachother rather than an "outsider". I think it hurts more.

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Sure. But I don't think its fair.

I believe an American life is as sacred as an Afghan or Iraqi life; a Sikh life is as fair as an Aborigine or Imam of Kabba.

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Is Osama's life as sacred as Bush's life?

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As sacred as yours.

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or as sacred as Ramzi Yousuf?

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Or mine.

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which means you could have been given capital punishment instead? :konfused:

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No Mr. Jam makhun. Sacred doesn't mean innocent.

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One's religion, race or creed should not determine how valuable a life is.

A shia's life is as sacred as a sunni's. A black Muslim is as valuable as an Arab Muslim. An ahmadi is as important as a mainstream Muslim. A secular Muslim's life is as precious as a fundamentalist's. An Indian Muslim's life should be as cherished as a Pakistani Muslim. But in all these cases thre are instances where one is murdering the other out of ignorance or hatred.

Did you come across any quotes on these killings or only for the Lal Masjid 'victims'?

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are you as sacred as ahmedjee?

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^ Probably more.

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^
goes against the basic hypothesis of the thread.

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Seminole,
Here is the link to the quotes

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it is a question of caring. one obviously cares more about one's family's lives than one does about people in Somalia or Darfur (even if you hold strong opinions about Darfur or Somalia).

Transfer those sentiments to the broader community your a part of or identify strongly with, whether based on religion, ethnicity, co-locality or anything else, and its perfectly understandable why we would care more about the lives of these people than those of random "others".

perhaps not ideal, but human nature.

Do you mean to say AJ that you would not care even slightly more about the well being of your family/friends/even neighbours than you would about distant strangers? If you would, then why is caring more about Muslims/Pakistanies non understandable?

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^^ yep. it depends on which lineage u want to protect

as the old arab saying goes : Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my cousins against the world.

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what about nationality?

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John Lennon, Imagine.

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

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this is all big ch********. average pakis are eff’d up and they are getting eff’ed up by the day. wrapping under the ‘oh-one-feels-more-close-to-its-kind’ rug simply won’t cut the ch********* this mentality menifests. what irks me more that people find excuses for this kinda crap. call a spade a spade. :mad:

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Its also human nature to be selfish, lie, to take advantage when possible, to be greedy ... it doesn't make these actions moral.

I am not claiming that if someone slaps me and Br. ravage, I will feel his pain as much as mine. But there is something definitely wrong if I start to convince myself that my pain is worse and satisfy my conscious that I am bound by human nature to think so.