Re: Being killed for marrying a christian man and leaving Islam
Bella,
Nobody on here, not even the strongest Muslim on here, would condone the killing of this woman. The difference is that these Muslim members whose opinion you seek don’t associate the crime with Islam and its teachings…whereas you, despite not being a Muslim, DO associate it with Islam. It seems you want that association to be there so that you can justify your own sentiments about Islam. Reflect over this, look deep within yourself and ask yourself why our condemnation is so necessary for you, what does it prove for you, what do you gain from it? Be honest with yourself and not defensive. If the Muslims on GS condemn this killing, then the only thing this should prove to you is that they are overall sensible people, that their belief system is not inhumane. It should not prove to you…or rather you should not try to prove to yourself that they are against their religion and thus use the condemnation against them for your own validation.
And you need to get off the forum and do your research on what Islam says about the matter. You might say that this is why you opened the thread, to learn from is Muslims what Islam says about apostasy. Well, first of all the Muslims here don’t know everything about Islam and secondly seeking knowledge should be done with an open mind and without trying to prove a point.
In one website I read that the Prophet SAWS did not kill anyone for apostasy, that there’s no record of him doing so. It stated that there was a man who came to the Prophet SAWS 3 times, telling him that he’s going to apostate; he SAWS did not inflict any penalty on him. The man then left Madina and nobody was sent after him to arrest or kill him. There are scholars that argue that the death sentence is not for simple or individual apostasy, but rather for acts of treason. And there are nations that have designated the death penalty for acts of treason, so it wouldn’t be confined to Islam. It is also said that hadith stating that apostates should be killed doesn’t have a strong foundation because it was only transmitted from the Prophet SAWS by one person and that it is open to interpretation.
I will say it again and it’s the same thing that PCG and others have said, STOP associating (in your mind) this atrocity with Islam and Muslims. Just stop it. You should not get the Muslims on GS…including those select and unnamed Muslims whom according to you “alway seem to agree with every Shariah rule”…to “agree” with you that a certain “Shariah law” is “barbaric.” The reason for this is that a Muslim knows his faith isn’t barbaric, that shariah is not barbaric, that his religion is just…and he/she will not use the word “barbaric” for any aspect of Islam. If he or she does find an act barbaric, it’s because it does not reflect Islam and its values at all.
If you and comrade Southie think that Muslims on GS should “speak up” and condemn this particular “shariah law” for being inhumane…then we will only condemn this “act” for being inhumane. I use the word act, because anything which unjustly distorts/manipulates shariah law…is the execution of an inhumane act…which has nothing to do with Shariah law and Islam.
The woman in this article is dead. Our condemnation will not bring her back. Chances are that our mass condemnation is not going to make a dent’s worth of difference in the mindset of the corrupt political regimes of various Islamic nations. That said, stop setting our “condemnation” as the condition for how you personally view Islam and Muslims. Many of us here wouldn’t want our own siblings and children to be executed if …God forbid…they were to denounce Islam, much less support the killing of the woman in the article. There is no need for us to “sugar coat” or justify this law…because this act of injustice has naught to do with Shariah law and Islam. Anything which is a gross or severely simple interpretation of a law…has nothing to do with the law…it can’t be called “abiding by the law” just because a few corrupt Muslim leaders “carry it out.” And this will lead to more “open-minded” circular-thought responses from you and Southie, I’m sure.