I heard positive answer from different pplz whoever read this book and none said ever that its quoted from hadith and/or Quran. This book presented in best (I think, haven't read so far). b'coz its shows the way that how one avoid doing any 'wrong doing'. By exerpting word 'iddah' from the post of our respected member, I agree all the bulleted lists are correct. What I think the book writer means by acting on these points, one can keep herself away from doing any 'wrong doing' before expiry of iddah time. Maybe that lady won't do but due to her beauty or by any other reason, may be other(s) take interest in her. I think its like taking oneself's moral level to further higher step.
Again I repeat I haven't read this book but observed that book also covers good information so my stance is what is good in that book, take it and what is not good leave it.
I was telling about fiqah. I dont have any faqeeh at home so need religious scholars to guide me. I do confirm whther their aqaidh agree with quran and hadeeth.
This is what i do and hence suggested . You may choose what you think best for you.
It's a good book. It's written in a way as an elder of the family giving naseehat to a young bride. Having said that, and considering that the book is written, I guess a good 100 years ago, it has lot of cultural influence from that time. Also, because the general audience of that book was girls who hardly had any education ( norm in those days), Molana Thanvi kept the language simple and often added a safety net in his advice, just to keep the reader on the safe side of shariah.
Like in case of iddah example, he might have added to what is absolutely required by shariah, but what did his advice really take away from someone one who is observing iddah? Nothing, if you think of it.
It's actually a very good book to have at home for small daily masaail that are applicable to both men and women, like what nullifies Salat or when and on what zakat is valid.
I guess you really get the good sense from that book if you read it in Urdu.
There is no need to bash or ridicule the book or the writer. It does not show maturity.
The writer meant good and it was based on available information and to help illiterate women or girls deal with many day to day problems.
Just read with open mind and not for criticism. You might like it...even if disagree with a whole lot of advice.
Mentioning 50 shades of Gray in this context and calling that book more applicable is absurd. Wonder what that person would teach...Let me stop here. :)
You should read 50 Shades of Gray, that has more applicable stuff in it than this kachra.
50 shades is only 'applicable' if you measure up to Christian Gray. Women dont mind submission, masochism and having disturbingly sick things done to them if the man is that attractive and powerful.
It's a good book. It's written in a way as an elder of the family giving naseehat to a young bride. Having said that, and considering that the book is written, I guess a good 100 years ago, it has lot of cultural influence from that time. Also, because the general audience of that book was girls who hardly had any education ( norm in those days), Molana Thanvi kept the language simple and often added a safety net in his advice, just to keep the reader on the safe side of shariah.
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I guess you really get the good sense from that book if you read it in Urdu.
agree with both points in bold.......
I'm sure that much is lost in translation.
But see thats the thing although you guys might think its all "cultural mumbo jumbo" but why is there so much visceral hatred against it ? The same people who oppose this part of their cultural heritage will happily read Jane Austin and Brontes' works despite all the cultural mumbo jumbo it contains.
^ I can't speak for anyone else in this thread except for myself, but the reason why I am opposed to this book and used the term "cultural mumbo jumbo" in my original post is because the reference to Beheshti Zewar (and hence this thread) was suggested by a poster in response to another posters question about certain religious questions in a completely different thread in this forum. A After downloading the English PDF and reading through it, I found it more to be more 19th century cultural norms than authenticated religious edicts. I found it very irresponsible to suggest this to someone as a religious guide. And that is just my opinion, I certainly don't fault anyone theirs.
And the difference in Beheshti Zewar and Jane Austen/Bronte is that those literary works were not touted as anything but fiction and never represented themselves as Biblical texts or religious guides.
Behashti zevar was written in 19th century and what is written in it, is or was for the ladies of that time, when lot of them were illiterate and it was a time when Ba rare saghir Pak o hind was together and Muslims were not sending their daughters to study. You can usually see this book in your grandma's house, and how our grand mothers or great grand mothers were raised it usually helps them. In this time and age it doesn't apply since time has changed a lot. If anyone wants to read it, keep in mind it's not meant for this age and time. It has lot of things which can easily offend today's gals. And I asked my husband it has lot zaeef ahadees too which maulana Thanvi has mentioned. But again his intentions for certain time or for ladies of that time. Instead of calling it jumbo jumbo or other things we should avoid reading it. Sometimes we say things which can hurt us in the eyes of Allah, just avoid reading those things which can lead us to buraii. I didn't read it for the same reason.
Behashti zevar was written in 19th century and what is written in it, is or was for the ladies of that time, when lot of them were illiterate and it was a time when Ba rare saghir Pak o hind was together and Muslims were not sending their daughters to study. You can usually see this book in your grandma's house, and how our grand mothers or great grand mothers were raised it usually helps them. In this time and age it doesn't apply since time has changed a lot. If anyone wants to read it, keep in mind it's not meant for this age and time. It has lot of things which can easily offend today's gals. And I asked my husband it has lot zaeef ahadees too which maulana Thanvi has mentioned. But again his intentions for certain time or for ladies of that time. Instead of calling it jumbo jumbo or other things we should avoid reading it. Sometimes we say things which can hurt us in the eyes of Allah, just avoid reading those things which can lead us to buraii. I didn't read it for the same reason.
Behehsti Zewar is attributed towards Moulana Thavi, mainly written by one of his students.
Any specific zaeef ahadith you know that is mentioned, ( this is not for discussion but just for information :) )
^ I can't speak for anyone else in this thread except for myself, but the reason why I am opposed to this book and used the term "cultural mumbo jumbo" in my original post is because the reference to Beheshti Zewar (and hence this thread) was suggested by a poster in response to another posters question about certain religious questions in a completely different thread in this forum. A After downloading the English PDF and reading through it, I found it more to be more 19th century cultural norms than authenticated religious edicts. I found it very irresponsible to suggest this to someone as a religious guide. And that is just my opinion, I certainly don't fault anyone theirs.
And the difference in Beheshti Zewar and Jane Austen/Bronte is that those literary works were not touted as anything but fiction and never represented themselves as Biblical texts or religious guides.
come on. you must have some fiqh, aalim, sheikh, sect or somethng you identify with. someone whose opinions you hold in high regard?
I guess since I'm born and raised in the US, I have not ever really been around the molvi/sheikh culture. My naniyal is heavily invested/ardent believers in the murshad/pir idealogies, but my own parents were vehemently against such practices. Our local mosque, in which I was raised, was led by a Turkish Imam, and I've grown up attending ISNA/ICNA conferances with speakers like Imam Siraj Wahaj....
I live in the same city as Nouman Ali Khan of Bayyinah Institute, and I really like and respect his point of view. I know he and his wife/kids socially, so if I ever have any questions/misconceptions/doubts I have on occasion turned to them for guidance.
I guess since I'm born and raised in the US, I have not ever really been around the molvi/sheikh culture. My naniyal is heavily invested/ardent believers in the murshad/pir idealogies, but my own parents were vehemently against such practices. Our local mosque, in which I was raised, was led by a Turkish Imam, and I've grown up attending ISNA/ICNA conferances with speakers like Imam Siraj Wahaj....
I live in the same city as Nouman Ali Khan of Bayyinah Institute, and I really like and respect his point of view. I know he and his wife/kids socially, so if I ever have any questions/misconceptions/doubts I have on occasion turned to them for guidance.
You are lucky you have nouman Ali khan.
