Becoming a Barelvi for a day (Tahir ul-Qadri style)

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*Originally posted by gupguppy: *
It helps if you know how to spell "believe" in the first place...
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Don't worry honey it is not for you, I know you sleep with a dictionary.
and btw, you really are an experiment in artificial stupidity.

You are a product of that experiment… :rotfl:

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I don't know why is it important to Follow A religion in the first place......
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Once I met a Chinese; I asked her “do you believe in religion”. She said, “No I don’t, I believe there is no religion” then I asked, “It means you have a belief”. She never gave me answer to this question. I don’t know why.

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*Originally posted by Sher: *
I know what you mean inuit. She obviously beleives in not beleiving in religion. Well, I don't beleive in anything which puts me in a position where I have to beleive in something which is unbeleivable.
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Later one day I met another Chinese guy at my work place. He was also a same kind of person.

While discussing marriage traditions in china, I asked him; do you marry with your sisters and mother in your country? He said, “No, not at all”. I asked him, “Why?” he said, “We don’t like it”. I asked him, “Why you don’t like it?” He said, “It’s not in our culture”. I said, “From where these things came into your culture?” He said, “We are doing it since hundreds of years”. I asked him, “are these some kind of fixed rules, can your break them”. He said, “These are fixed, we can’t break it”. I told him that this is your religion. So far there is no reply from him.

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*Originally posted by ak47: *
Why do braelvis wipe there thumbs of there eyes during azaan ?

I have seen it done by some people but don`t know why,Does anyone have the answer?
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this is from book A'alHazrat per 150 Aetrazaat kay moon toar Jawab.

Fi Amaan Allah

Tehqeeq????

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*Originally posted by amirbilal: *

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this is from book A'alHazrat per 150 Aetrazaat kay moon toar Jawab.

Fi Amaan Allah
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No. 102 : Barelvi angoothay choomtay hain yeah bid’at hai.

Jawab: hadeeth, jo baghair tehqeeq k baat karta hai uss k liyay yeah kaafi hai k who jhoota hai.
Sab say pehlay hazrat Adam Alaihis-salaam nay angoothay choomay, Phir hazrat Khizar Alaihis-salaam nay, Phir Abu bakr Saddiq Razi-Allahu Ta’ala anhu nay un k baad do sau auwliyaa e karaam nay aur aaj karoRoN ummati angoothay choomtay hain. Kitnay hawalay dekh kar maan ja-ogay. Aao mard e maidaan bano suboot dekho. Aur deobandi Taqi Usmani nay angoothay choomna jayez likha hai. Suboot dekho aur tauba karo. **

Kiya hi behtareen moon toar balakay sar phoR Jawab hai.

See the first sentence of the Jawab aur phir ghaur keejiyay k mohtaram jawab denay walay ne khud khonsi tehqeeq paish ki hai ??? koee hawalaa quraan kareem say yaa ahdeeth e nabavi Sal-lahu alaihi wasallam say???

Kiyaa iss say ziyada bhi kuchh kehnay ki zaroorat hai??

Wassalam

Mirza Ruswa

OK the “hawala’s” are given if Allah :swt: given you eyes to see.

1- Hazrat Adam :as:
2- Hazrat Khizer :as:
3- Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddique ( RTA )

The answer here is very short and you can find out the above refrences in Ahadees books. Or ask any of your Aalim about this.

Mat Allay :swt: enlighten your vision to see the right path. Aameen

Fi Amaan Allah

Assalam u Alaikum brother

Should i repeat your words ** if Allah :swt: given you eyes to see**

Dear brother i asked a reference from Quraan al kareem or from hadeeth al nabavi al shereef.
i hope u got my point.
anyway in the end i will repeat your dua but with a little amendment.

** May Allay :swt: enlighten us vision to see the right path. Aameen
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My answer is very clear !

Fi Amaan Allah

Assalam o Alaikum wa rehmatullah...

Brother amir bilal ....your scaneed refrence has many loop holes...

it do not contin any refrences....second even** if** it is proven from all these sahbah and anbia ...still it is not certain that this is some religious hukam..to be followed so bilindly and with zeal that every one who do not agree with research of ala hadrat is called a kaffir....
wamalaina illal balagh

I do not remember the exact Hadith. I will ask it to some Aalim and then will post it over here soon.

Bassically the book from which the refrence is scanned is to answer the Aalim ppl who know where is that thing mentioned exactly.

Fi Amaan Allah

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*Originally posted by bao bihari: *
who do not agree with research of ala hadrat is called a kaffir....

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Bro. Bao bihari; isn’t there not any FATWA that "who do agree with research of Ahmad Raza is Kaffir"?

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*Originally posted by inuit: *
Bro. Bao bihari; isn’t there not any FATWA that "who do agree with research of Ahmad Raza is Kaffir"?
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There is.....and for the reason that any one beliving any attepmt to introduce bidah in islam and not only bidah but also dividing common muslim on petty isues should deserve such treatment to stop from division among ummah...

wasalam

Well,
This post is for everyone who has problems with Brelvi's. A place an open challenge for you all. *Go get your Aalim and Come for Manazra, I will get a Brelvi Aalim and we will decide. *

Further If anyone of you need then I can provide address of Aalim and you can contact to get your queries answered.

Also I can provide you a lot of proofs where the people ( who say brelvi's do biddat ) ran away and few times they did not even come for Mazazra.

Ab Khuda ka khauf karo aur seedhay rastay per aa jao Ya phir aa Jao Maidaan main.

There is nothing left now !

Fi Amaan Allah

Is the Bareli where Ahmed Raza was from the same as the one in “Jhumka Gira Re Bareli Ke Bazaar Mein”?

Yes dear zakiii thats the one. However the song is from indian film mera saaya with actors Suneel Dat and Saadhana etc.

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Well,
This post is for everyone who has problems with Brelvi's. A place an open challenge for you all. **Go get your Aalim and Come for Manazra, I will get a Brelvi Aalim and we will decide. *

Further If anyone of you need then I can provide address of Aalim and you can contact to get your queries answered.

Also I can provide you a lot of proofs where the people ( who say brelvi's do biddat ) ran away and few times they did not even come for Mazazra.

Ab Khuda ka khauf karo aur seedhay rastay per aa jao Ya phir aa Jao Maidaan main.

There is nothing left now !

Fi Amaan Allah
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Kindly post your proof here......make sure it has some reasonable base though....