hamay pata tha, the judgmental card is about to come out and hum knock out ho jayaen gay…:bummer:
like i said, matti pao, it is Saturday night. let this uncle be happy with hoors and sahrab in Jannah and you auntie jee, dont worry, there is a lot for aunties in Jannah too
PEACE Bro…if you think the problem is that simple, more power to you. if a certain Christian group kills Muslims on the religious grounds saying kill Muslims since they do not follow Christianity, then that particular sect of Christianity will be blamed, not white supremacy and vice versa.
these guys and groups are muslims and follow an extreme version and we need to stop them ideologically so that they cannot hire more muslim youth. and it is an ideological issue. when in Pakistan, educated lawyers kiss a killer with joy who killed salman taseer the governor of punjab just because he tried to save a life of innocent Pakistani Christian woman, it shows there is an ideological problem. when a group of educated muslim students kill a fellow muslim student mercilessly in Peshawar on the basis of baseless blasphemy charges and get a lot of support from masses, it tells me there is a deeply spread ideological problem.
DT has started the campaign of annihilation and soon most master minds and opinion leaders will be taken out and the sheep will disperse. This group has nothing to do with religion but with power and greed. They looted billions of dollars from captured cities and raped thousands. Ideology wont work with them, Obama tried and failed, sheer unrelenting force is the way to deal with them and they are showing desperation now as violent death is almost certain for the leaders of the group. With Obama he let them escape but now they surround the city and then blast it and anyone trying to flee is annihilated.
Ignorance can be stretched as far as one wants to stretch it. Intentionally humiliating and using islam by twisting verses, history out of context to impose your sick mentality on other is exactly what those programmed zombies do. People like you are no different in the mindset. Mention of hoors is in quran for pious men. Similarly, mention of male hoors for pious women too. For those pious men and women. Not zombies killing innocents by blasting themselves up. Neither for them nor for zombies purposely refusing to understand when the truth is right there for them to see and continue to humiliate God’s word. Both destined to eternal hell in this lifetime and the hereafter. Beware that hell is not neccessary burning in fire. Hell is lack of peace in your heart and mind. The burning of your heart and mind due to no peace, no happiness, no blessings, no contentment. Always being in the kind state of minds that I see some of the posters here filled in rage, completely possessed by their hate against the word of god. Thst is actually the punishment - the hell.
I second what aqua said in post 31. Where in the quran did you read 72 virgins given to people who blast their organs in the markets, mosques, public areas only to kill people?
I am surprised posters like pakistsni prince never get offended by filth posted by this lot but get offended with posters trying to correct the deliberate misinterpretations used by fascist to programme the zombies. Exactly what you are doing here. Implying that there is mention of males and females hoors so anyone can become a murderer, go on killing spree to get those hoors.
Both types of these extreme zombies are two sides of the same coin so should be left alone with the fire inside their own hearts which eventually consumes them.
The new strategy is to not allow the fighters to escape and surround the town before attacking and annihilating anyone trying to escape. The army can engage without approval from white house and use extreme brutal force, the decision is made to show no mercy and kill all the fighters. The strategy has worked, new recruitment has stopped and the existing fighters will be annihilated, Obama did not have the stomach to do the necessary. This will be the biggest gift to Islamic world. I think change of govt in Pakistan is along same lines and the extremists there will be dealt with in the same fashion. When the leadership falls the foot soldiers disperse.
Thanks for the link. Yes I believe it is a gift to islamic world. No more murderers, criminals taken out of jails from around the world on condition of joining islamic terror groups representing islam so yes it indeed is a gift to the entire islamic world. What amazes me though that it has come in dt’s leadership? I think he is just there to sign approval. So who ever has made and presented the plan, salute to him for rescuing the entire muslim world from this menace which existed actually to serve the greed of a bunch of mafias misunsing islam.
I think things are now headed in the right direction. I was thinking probably russia initiated this.
You are exactly right about the mafias, they looted billions of dollars and were collecting all the oil revenue and now it is just a matter of time before they all die. That decision has been made that they will not be returning to their homes. Sheer force has done what no ideology could have done, no recruits lining up for certain death anymore.
I hope those hopeful recruites would take this as an opportunity to open the quran atleast once in their life with an intention to read and understand.
lo jee, bashan/lecture start with all personal attacks waisay, where did i say that quran says that you will get hoors for killing innocent people?.. as a matter of fact, the post that you quoted me, I specifically said that * killing innocent people will not reward one jannah where we have hoors but they get brainwashed.
*if you have peace of mind and right heart, good for you…and pls let the “corrupted lot live with no peace, no happiness, no blessings, no contentment”
200% in agreement with Trump’s strategy of using shear force against these barbarians and if it gets us the result, more power to trump.
That being said, there is more to this cancer than Daesh only. Daesh/ISIS may be just criminal gangs but this extremism cancer is much more spread. there are groups like Al Qaida, al nasar+ hundreds of groups in saudi araba, pakistan, sudan and many other places who subscribe to extreme version and interpretation of the religion and they preach it vigorously too. Many muslim societies have gone unbalanced because of that. I gave you some very specific examples from Pakistan. Well educated *lawyers in Pakistan kissed a killer Mumtaz Qadri with joy who killed salman taseer the governor of punjab just because Governor tried to save a life of innocent Pakistani Christian woman. I mean lawyers who are supposed to practice the law are kissing the killer. when that killer was hanged by the govt, millions of people show up for his funeral. is this all normal? when a group of educated muslim students kill a fellow muslim student mercilessly in Peshawar on the basis of baseless blasphemy charges and get a lot of support from masses, it tells me there is a deeply spread ideological problem.
*And I am saying you need both. Brutal force to kill these barbarians but also counter them ideologically and muslims scholars need to counter them ideologically not donald trump.
just my 2 cents…you may disagree but hey we are on a debate forum:)
100 % correct. My feeling about the issue that it is the responsibilty of our Ulema who were silent ( and some of them involve in spreading such ideology since they were getting benefit spreading this idiology as $ and riyals ) to counter this narrative. When we have Lal masjid type ppl spreading hatred in the heart of pakistan and all are silent means some thing wrong deep down with our policy makers. It does not mean it is fault of isalm but the general muslims. Once all of us get true muslim we will not see such acts…
I quoted you because you are the one incapable of differentiating between what is being rejected by posters here. It is the 72 virgins for murderers & criminals concept which is nowhere in quran. You assumed that posters here are making fun of hoors mention in the quran.
Are you not the one who just few days ago opened a thread proposing to implement secularism in pakistan and when faced with opposite views, you called out all those against implementing secularism in pakistan as terrorists and what not? So to you, everyone against removing religion is a terrorist and should be named so publically. How is that mindset any different from the one where all the nonmuslims as labelled infidles and death deserving??? Like I said, it is the same mindset on both sides proposing to label and kill all who dont accept their own version of beliefs.
I on the other hand had suggested that it is neccessary to teach and spread correct Islam knowledge in the country of people who do not have basic islamic knowledge. That suggestion of mine filled you with so much rage calling out all the people opposing your belief in secular system as “terrorists”. You proved that you carry the same mentality. So all that I said in my last post were not personal attacks but to state your own posts reek of the same extremism.
Calling me MISTAKE also comes out from the same paki mentality. What kind of people would be incapable of differentiating between MYSTIQUE & MISTAKE??? It is exactly the same mindset that turns mention of hoors for pious ones into 72 virgins for murderers and convicts, no different. Two sides of the same coin.
in post 2, someone did insult hoor in jannah concept and called it BS and imaginary and I responded to it by saying it is not BS and is part of the religion and quran, and then I specifically said that by killing innocents one will not get hoors…and you quoted that post of mine in which I said that…so not sure what is the idea of such long lectures/bhashan. so no point of going in circles. you made your point, i made mine. at least, i will move on.
and yes I opened the secular thread but where did i call out all those against implementing secularism in pakistan as terrorists and what not? where did i say that everyone against removing religion from state affairs is a terrorist?
waisay dear auntie jee, why do you sound so angry all the times I always feel like You will die of high blood pressure and I will need to live with the guilt
^^ The anger is in your head, not in me. You are the first one commenting that about me. As always is the case with you, you are mistaking me for someone else, misinterpreting.
everyone on this forum knows who is always angry… who uses F words …whose posts are being reported to mods but if you think, i am angry all the times, what can i say. Like i said, I dont want to be responsible for someone’s death by high blood pressure, so I am simply going to agree to everything you say or stop quoting you…
waisay, where did i say that quran says that you will get hoors for killing innocent people?.. as a matter of fact, the post that you quoted me, I specifically said that * killing innocent people will not reward one jannah where we have hoors but they get brainwashed.
calm down guys .
but if you think, i am angry all the times, what can i say. Like i said, I dont want to be responsible for someone’s death by high blood pressure, so I am simply going to agree to everything you say or stop quoting you…
hum to calm hee calm hain…but do send some of these pop corn man !