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“AL Qaeda” and the rest.
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SIDNY is not my friend. He is not in my friend list either. Your wrong words have shown you this day. You need to go through past threads to know that whenever members find any post insulting or against Gupshup rules, they report them immediately to admins, moderators and Director. I followed the process and Director responded to it, finding your words insulting. It does not make him my friend. I am sure some other members would also report your post, wait and watch. @Mystique
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I did not know “Indian version of Islam” means "al-Qaida’. What does the “rest” mean here?
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Well, Mystique, you are right. I know media is biased and coverage of attacks/crimes by Muslims is more than coverage of crimes/attacks by non-Muslims. If a attack happens in west it is given more coverage. In India some media houses like zee news, times now are biased but it is not like the media doesn’t show positive things coming from Muslim community or attacks on Muslims. As far as Indian consulate teaching Indian version of Islam in Afghanistan is concerned, I don’t know it is supported by facts or not. Many political parties and countries use religion as a tool to achieve political ends.
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I know many muslim countries and political figures are also involved in this whole global drama but here I was responding to the attacks of someone in particular because that poster attacks islam in every single post even in relationship forum.
About your question who other than al qaeda, I meant every new radicalized terrorist groups and parties which were formed after al qaeda including daaesh.
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So I intruded. When the intention is not genuine discussion, it tends to become a quarrel which doesn’t help in developing understading of the issue. We sometimes feel it is necessary to show mirror when someone goes too low to unleash uglies everywhere spoiling forums, making fake threads.
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Terrorism is quite different than other crimes , here in Pakistan , where it is daily routine , it gets more coverage than other crimes so you can not blame media
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It is to blame. What I am saying you can read here.
Terror attacks receive five times more media coverage if perpetrator is Muslim, study finds
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Another news that firing took place on a train going to paris
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well, i dont know why do we make excuses. hoors in jannah are very important part of islam. it is also in quran. every muslim preacher talks about virgin hoors in jannah.
here is tariq jameel video, one of the most prominent preacher. he has preached millions. there are hundreds of videos of him talking about hoors and in jannah, how beautiful they will be, how alcohol will be served in jannah
here is indian scholar describing hoors in jannah
here is ustad nauman ali khan describing the rationale of sexual pleasures in jannah, hoors in jannah …pls listen to whole video, jazak allah
so yes, beautiful virgin hoors and sahrab tahoora in jannah are part of our religion. now everyone can use this concept to do whatever he or she wants in this world.
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Umm did you miss the part where it says killing innocent people is a direct ticket to hell? The posters here are discussing the 72 hoors which these idiots think they will get, which is false. Why are you twisting the topic?
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i am saying that hoor virgins and sharab tahoora in Jannah is not a vague or fake topic. it is part of our religion. lets accept it proudly. i have seen that when non-muslims attack muslims on this hoor in jannah concept, muslims get defensive giving excuses. do you deny hoors and sharab tahoora concept in jannah?
all i am saying that please be careful about hoors/sharab tahoora in jannah concept seriously, dont make fun of it. it is part of our relgion and it is n quran.
now the problem is that muslims can use this concept for whatever reason. some are taught that killing non muslims will get you jannah and in jannah you will get hoors…but no, killing innocent people will not reward one jannah where we have hoors but they get brainwashed. but that does not mean, hoors in jannah concept is flawed. it is real.
that is all
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I have never seen anyone deny what you are saying, what they are trying to do is stop the misinformation from spreading, which is the bold part.
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sister, you are not getting my point…please see post #2](http://gupshup.org/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) . that poster specifically saying that Muslims believe in virgin hoors bull ****. he also called hoor concept imaginary. and in response, i felt most of the posters were defensive. and I am saying it is not BS.
is it clear now? thx
by the way, I have seen this topic coming up a lot these days where non-muslims call hoors in jannah a BS and most Muslims becoming defensive and I am saying that lets set the baseline crystal clear. yes we Muslims believe in hoors in jannah, and yes we believe in sharab tahoora in jannah. it is not some BS but it is part of our reward paradigm.
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Uncle phoenixdesi you are not getting it. That poster you are referring to, he has bashed muslims and their beliefs half a dozen times already, first it doesn’t really matter what he says. Second, every single poster who replied to his post told him the 72 virgin thing was a myth because IT IS A MYTH. No one denounced the whole concept of hoors and sharab, you are overreacting. Hoors exist but not for fools who commit crimes for them! There is nothing in our religion regarding killing and receiving 72 hoors. That is what they are trying to say. Is it clear now?
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well attackers are from daesh but tell me one thing. you think it is good enough explanation for all innocent non-Muslims and their respective governments who are giving shelters to muslims that these are not Muslims and are just some gangsters. seriously? al-Qaeda is just some gangster criminal organization and there is no ideological background? taliban pakistan who wants to implement their version of sharia are just some gangsters?
all these folks are muslims, they belong to a certain ideology which is extremism but that does not mean they are not muslims. they preach their ideology and their supply chain is unending and they keep on getting new folks. we first need to own these people and then try to block them ideological but we have this lame reaction: these are not muslims. so who are they? Christians, Hindus, Buddhas? rest of the world is getting tired of these lame excuses. thx
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Shouldn’t they be more concerned about the description of hell as surely they should know if they are going any place, that is the place they are going.
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agar hum uncle to aap bee Auntie ban jayee , so auntie jee, aap itna ghussa kiyon kar rahiee hain 
last i knew, this forum is open and everyone can react. you may think I am overreacting, but i dont think I am. for you it does not matter what that poster wrote. for me it matters, so i gave my reaction.
chaloo matiee pao, waisay, aap kay reaction say lagta gai, you are not so happy with this hoor and sharab concept in jannah… 
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Lmao aunty? If being being 2 decade old is considered aunty then alright, you can call me that. And I am not doing any gussah, just trying to make you understand that you are lumping two completely different things together. And how exactly did you gauge that I am not happy about hoor and sharab concept? Quite judgemental no?
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What are you on? There is nothing Islamic about them, Nazis were white, most of them Christians and yet west did not own them, they blasted them away. No Church is lining up to embrace the Neo Nazis. So who are rapists, child molesters, murderers, thieves, drug addicts..are they muslims, hindus, christians? what kind of an imbecile logic is this? A rapist is a rapist, a terrorist is a terrorist, when a child molester from USA goes to Thailand he is not a Christian or an American but a child molester. You live in the west and still did not learn the fundamental things about the ideology here which is that a criminal alone is responsible for his crime and no one else. Not a single peaceful Muslim bears accountability for any sick demented terrorist.