Is it why they are flocking towards Pakistan where they better like to live illegaly than legally in their own country?
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*Originally posted by Dhulfiqar: *
Innit!! There’s so many in Karachi… itnay ziyada heiN ke walk kartay wakt paouN ke neechay aa jaatay heiN…
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Bradram, I am not sure if Madhanee boy is telling the ture story.
good n bad people every where.. i have some bengali friends who r really nice, n others who hate pakistanis , apparently pakistanis did something to them in 71. (not really good at history).
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**Is it why they are flocking towards Pakistan where they better like to live illegaly than legally in their own country. And by the way what do they call the thing they release out of their asses, let me guess, Bharat?
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Why do you hate Bangladeshis so much, Shawaiz? It's so sad to read something like that. Is there no concept of a global Muslim family existent anywhere today or is brotherhood something restricted only to the pages of the Quran and [Nauzubillah] Allah's Words are not 'practical' enough for our everyday lives? Do you pick and choose which parts of the Quran are most palatable to your preferences?
The reason Bengladeshis goto Pakistan is very much like "Muslims" going to England and America. Many go there for "economy", "education" reasons, some (or many of them) may still not like it but they live it. Same goes for Bengladeshis, those who can afford to goto US will first prefer US then other countries, may be Pakistan/India are last on their list, who knows. But that shouldn't mean that all Bengladeshis hate Pakistanis.
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*Originally posted by suroor_ca02: *
...apparently pakistanis did something to them in 71. (not really good at history).
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That "something" would be "massacre", "rape" etc.
Any one degrading other nationalities should just refer to the Hadith below.
"Undoubtedly Allah has removed from you the pride of arrogance of the age of Jahilliyah (ignorance) and the glorification of ancestors. Now people are of two kinds. Either believers who are aware or transgressors who do wrong. You are all the children of Adam and Adam was made of clay. People should give up their pride in nations because that is a coal from the coals of Hell-fire If they do not give this up Allah (swt) will consider them lower than the lowly worm which pushes itself through Khara (dung)." . [Abu Dawud and Tirmidhi]
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*Originally posted by Ibn Sadique: *
Dhulfiqar, the above coming from is very 'unfair'. Just refer to the Hadith below.
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Ain't that a show of some standards from him?
what is wrong with u people
i dont know about everyone else, but most muslims today are more about their nationality and all that s***, everyone says..yeah..islam is more about a nation of one, global unity. all that crap gets typed, but nobody really acts on it. ESPECIALLY PAKISTANI'S AND EGYPTIANS. they all about themselves, and their dumb ethnicity, and talking about the lota system bagerah bagerah. or that whole masr el donya and pakistan zindabad..i mean..you people obviously need to be locked up in a room full of different people for a decade straight and taught ur religion over for u, cuz its like u've learned absolutely NOTHING..and its not just pakistani's and egyptians, its just about everyone..cept they more quiet about it..u people jus like to shout it in people's faces every five minutes..give up ur nationality and ur nationalistic pride people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT AIN'T GONNA GET YOU THROUGH JUDGEMENT DAY! ILL TELL YA THAT MUCH!!!!!!! ugh..im so mad..its not even funny..i seriously see like steam coming out of my ears. okay, i know im venting, but seriously people..are u muslim cuz ur muslim or are u muslim cuz ur MUSLIM???? okay..that didnt make alotta sense, but what are u muslim for? ask urself that. are u muslim cuz u just are..or are u muslim cuz u wanna live the life GOD (remember him?) intended...and fullfill what he wants of you? OKay..didnt mean to demean everyone here..luv u guys..mwahhhhzzz (not really since i dont know you..but i love Allllll of you..if ur God loving muslims..and I love you if ur black, white..yellow, or Purple (god i hope ur not purple..that would mean ur choking to death)..LOVE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE'RE ALL HUMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE'RE BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MASHALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On February 22, 1971 the generals in West Pakistan took a decision to crush the Awami League and its supporters. It was recognized from the first that a campaign of genocide would be necessary to eradicate the threat: “Kill three million of them,” said President Yahya Khan at the February conference, “and the rest will eat out of our hands.” (Robert Payne, Massacre [1972], p. 50.)
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The War Inquiry Commission was appointed by the President of Pakistan in December 1971. In its secret report, never made public in Pakistan the commission, headed by then Chief Justice of Pakistan, Hamoodur Rahman, held widespread atrocities, other abuses of power by Pakistani generals and a complete failure in civilian and martial-law leadership responsible for the loss of East Pakistan. The report dwells on a range of sins: killing of thousands of Bangladeshis—both civilians and “Bengali” soldiers—rape, pan smuggling, looting of banks in East Pakistan, drunkenness by officers, even an instance of a Brigadier “entertaining” women while his troops were being shelled by Indian troops. It recommended a string of court-martials and trials against top officers . Nothing ever happened. The army’s role in splintering Pakistan after its greatest military debacle was largely ignored by successive Pakistani governments.
The Commission examined nearly 300 witnesses and hundreds of classified army signals between East and West Pakistan. The final report was submitted on October 23, 1974, detailing political, administrative, military and moral failings of then Pakistan.
Nadia, I hear ya. The utopian ideals you yearn should be aimed at for achievement but sadly aren’t a true reflection of reality as we see it.
Madhanee: “Why only in Karachi? Why don’t they come to Punjab? Since Punjabis love Bengalis so much, even though they are a bit darker and also on the short side. Punjabis are not liked by other Pakistanis. Generally speaking. I mean look at Gupshup as an example.” Dude, what is your point? Why so much anger against Punjabis (you’re one too, did you forget?!) I’ve noticed a trend where you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about everything about your cultural background and I am getting darned tired of not saying anything. We met at the guppie meet and you’re a nice person but drinking openly, putting Pakistanis down, praising Indians and Hindus to the hilt isn’t helping you any. Jeez!!!
Epicurean, hatred toward another race is never a good thing. Unfortunately we all tend to have our prejudices against certain ethnicites but “hatred” is a very strong reaction and should be used with caution.
Different: ““Kill three million of them,” said President Yahya Khan at the February conference, “and the rest will eat out of our hands.”” What are you trying to prove? Are you a Pakistan hater too?
Peace 
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*Originally posted by shawaiz: *
Is it why they are flocking towards Pakistan where they better like to live illegaly than legally in their own country. And by the way what do they call the thing they release out of their asses, let me guess, Bharat?
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Somebody around here needs to lighten up.I have many Bengali friends, and let me tell you they are more helpful and caring then my own pakistan friends.
Dont stick every Bengali person into one compartment that your narrow minded views have created.
As far as Im concerned people who generalize this much -their opinions are best kept in only one place- to themselves.
There is no doubt that the mass killing in Bangladesh was among the most carefully and centrally planned of modern genocides. A cabal of five Pakistani generals orchestrated the events.The number of dead in Bangladesh in 1971 was almost certainly well into seven figures. It was one of the worst genocides of the World War II era, outstripping Rwanda (800,000 killed) and probably surpassing even Indonesia (1 million to 1.5 million killed in 1965-66).
Believe me if I was a Bengali person ,I wouldnt exactly 'love' Pakistanis myself.
Its understandable that some might dislike Pakistanis.Thats however does not mean they are all the same.
I agree with muslim queen, you see Jews praising German nazis?
Its the same deal, I accosiate with many a Bengali myself, and some of my closest friends were bengali. And I assure you that they did not "love" our kind. Understandably at that.
All Bengalis do not hate Pakistanis, much like all pakis do not hate Indians.
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you see Jews praising German nazis
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We dont live side by side so no perception necessary quite differnt than Jew living within Germany.
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Kill three million of them," said President Yahya Khan at the February conference, "and the rest will eat out of our hands
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Sounds like a psycho!!
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Believe me if I was a Bengali person ,I wouldnt exactly 'love' Pakistanis myself
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No perception at all!!!!
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
Dont stick every Bengali person into one compartment that your narrow minded views have created.
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My reply was directed to Madhanee. First read his derogatory comment before you give me a lecture on moral values, I wonder why nobody took any notice of what he said. Unlike you people I live in the real world and undersatnd the problems confronting Pakistan today. Among them the illegal immigration of Bengalis is a problem and should be dealt with.
And as far as the debacle of 71 is concerned. We will discuss it another time.
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WHy don't you grab a resident Bengali and ask them?