Ban the BNP/Al-Mujairoun etc.

The BNP/EDL and Al-Muhajiroun (Omar Bakri, Anjum Chaudhari) are two sides of the same crooked coin.

One has hijacked our nationality and the other our religion.

They should be banned, people shouldn’t have the freedom to express racism and fascism. Freedom of expression shouldn’t accomodate to hatred, malice and venom etc.

Most Brit Muslims and most Brit Whites are good, tolerant and respectful people who believe the different colors and religions enrich our British society but these few rabble rousers (aided by our newspapers) are the cause of community tensions.

When I see loonies from either of these two groups (BNP or Al-Muhajiroun) protesting on our streets and in our town centers it boils my blood.

It scares me, saddens me and worries me about the future of our generations to come and our country.

I miss the days of my childhood when our Christian neighbours sent us Christmas gifts and we sent them Eid dinner…

There was so much love and tolerance in those days, our neighbours/friends would pop in uninvited for dinner anytime the curry smelt good and their moms always had halal sliced meat in their fridges for our sandwiches, our skin colors or religions didn’t get in the way of our friendships now it’s a whole diff story…

…We need to root out the scumbags from our communities and bridge the evergrowing rift between the different communities so that everything goes back to the way it was in the good old days..

Muslims/Pakis need to get out of their petty little cliques in their ghetto inner city areas and associate with other ethnicities and show them that even though we look different and follow different religions our core values, hopes, aspirations, fears etc. are all the same, deep down we’re all the same…

We need to set a good example of Islam and behave ourselves, we give Islam and Muslims a bad image because of our actions and then people hate us and fear us and that’s not cool or good…

Re: Ban the BNP/Al-Mujairoun etc.

Can mods please correct my title to "...Al-Muhajiroun...".

Thanks.

Re: Ban the BNP/Al-Mujairoun etc.

^ No-one’s corrected it yet… completely agree with u about Al-Muhajiroun (and the BNP).. Funniest thing is as much as they claim to hate this country most of them bring their wives over from ‘back home’ to come here and live with them lol… a load of hypocrites…

Swilling beer, smoking dope and leering at porn, the other side of hate preacher ‘Andy’ Choudary | Mail Online

Swinging from one extreme to the other like that idiot Omar Bakri who claimed to hate the UK and Western decadence then begging the Gov to be allowed back in after he’d been deported..

Re: Ban the BNP/Al-Mujairoun etc.

They are idiots, jokers.

Like the article pointed out, these people are druggies/alci's they know duck all about the real Islam.

They just get the label of Islam and wave it in everyones faces and say and do stupid things which malign Islam and make life harder for the rest of us Muslims.

Perhaps we should hearken to the writings of Baruch Spinoza, Charles Darwin, Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson. Each of these great men challenged the existence of god or allah.
This year I celebrate the 150th. anniversary of Darwin's great work "On The Origin Of Species."
Today in the 21st. century we are confronted by extremes from every religion.
Radical Muslims, right wing Christians and orthodox extreme Jews.
Still there are humans who accept as fact seas being parted, the dead being reanimated and travel by a winged horse.
The new thinkers in our century include: Christopher Hitchens, Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, Azar Nafisi, Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
As an aside; I was pleased when Jerry Falwell was found bloated and dead in his office. I recall him saying that god might grant him another 20 years, and thus he would witness the rapture. He died alone and was only discovered the next day.
Let this be a lesson to right wing Christians.

Hello Alex, welcome back.

Religion itself is not the problem, those who misuse religion are the problem…

It’s the same for any ideology, fanatical extremist Athiests are just as bad as fanatical extremist “Muslims” or “Christians”.

I find Athiest people tend to be the most intolerant, bitter and dissatisfied. I would rather believe in a religion than cults of race, nation, blood and geography but I’m not intolerant of those who believe in another religion.

Secular Athiest religions such as Nazism and Communism have a far more horrible and facist record than any of the spiritual faiths, they had only evil to offer whilst religions such as Islam and Christianity can and are also sources of good and positive inspiration.

With the absence of spiritual religion, a void is left, people feel purposeless and to fill that void and satisfy their quest for meaning they turn to racist facist cults of race, nation and blood.

Those that are going to be bad are going to be bad regardless of whether there is religion or not, regardless of whether they profess their ideology to be Christianity, Athiesm/Secularism or Islam.

Those that are going to be good are going to take good and positive inspiration such as anti-racialism, charity, animal-rights, human-rights etc. from their religions.

The Soviet Russians were motivated by extremist fanatical Athiesm, they buthcered Muslims for no reason other than for practicing a religion, even non-political non-combatant Muslims dissappeared into thin air because they were hindering Athiesm whilst the Soviets wanted to promote Athiesm. Some of the Muslim leaders who did forsake Islam for the Soviets were still killed because the Soviets thought “hey if these guys are not true to their own ideology they can’t be very loyal to ours” so it was loose-loose situation, they were loosers in this world and the hereafter, Muslims should take heed, it reminds me of a saying of the Prophet :saw2: “Whoever seeks to please Allah by making people angry, Allah will protect him from people; whoever seeks to please people by making Allah angry, Allah will leave him to the people.”

Take the BNP or other skinhead Neo-Nazi organisations across Europe, they don’t profess any religion, they base their hatred on skin color, today the BNP have jumped on the anti-Islamic bandwagon and are making full use of the current political situation around the world but in reality they hate anyone who is not white and they’ve been hateful for way before people in this country even knew what Islam was.

Religion can and does play a positive role in combating the disease of racism, many neo-nazi skinheads reject their racist ways upon embracing Islam or take Malcolm X who was racist prior to embracing Islam, his cult prior to embracing the true Islam painted all white people in the same brush and held them all responsible for the enslavement of his people but his racist generalising views changed once he prayed shoulder to shoulder to blonde haired blue eyed Muslims and shared their food.

Religion is not the true motivation or inspiration for terrorism or hatred, yes some terrorist organisations do use the name of religion to rouse emotions and to rally more support whether it’s the “Islamic” terrorists of today or the Nazis who used the writings of Protestant. Martin Luther) but the real reasons are something else whether that’s political, greed or racism.

The reason for so called “Islamic” terrorism is not the Noble Koran, it is the political situation, nothing justifies terrorism and “Islamic” terrorists are wrong no matter what but the reason behind them is not the Koran, it is things like the Gulf War, the occupation of Palestine, foreign army bases and puppet goverments in Muslim countries. Read the history of Muslims you will se that Muslims were most tolerant of Non-Muslims when Muslims were strong but when they became weak and attacked then anti-Muslim sentiment grew amongst them because regardless of what religious scriptures say “hatred begets hatred and love begets love”, it’s human nature.

Islamic scripture is not the inspiration for terror, yes Islamic scripture allows “a just war” or jihad but it does not allow killing innocent civillians simply because they are Kafir (Non-Muslim), Islamic scripture enjoins on soldiers to protect the non-combatants, women, children, elderly, Non-Muslim clergy, Non-Muslim houses of worship, animals, plants and tress etc.

The real reason behind unjust “holy wars” are also something else even though the facade of religion is used.

Thank you for your opinion. You are wrong of course. The atheists I know are very generous with their time and money. I have always found non-believers to be kind contributors to food banks, homeless shelters and sponsors of third world orphaned children.
Atheist humanitarians, unlike religious contributors, have no strings attached.