Yeah Pakis the best .. our pop industry is awesome !!
Sukhbir was allowed to be pictured in Shehzad Roy's video because Sukhbir's nationality is non-Indian - he's an expatriate.
However, I dont know PTV's stance on the issue. The private channels show the video because their policies are a lot more lax.
The * olay olay* guy is right. India should ban Pakistani artists. It is very painful to see a loser like Ali haider surrounded by beautiful indian models.It's not fair !
PC: Congrats on becoming a Mod...(personallY i'd never accept the role because you cant throw yourself into the middle of arguments, you have "responsibilities" lol)
I think to be fair to the Indians they've allowed a free flow of cultural exchange between India and Pakistan. Pakistan should lift the idiotic ban on Indina movies in Cinema and restrictions against Indian artists, it's done nothing for the Pakistani Cinema industry or for the media side. They could ensure Pakistani Cinemas have quotas of Pakistani Movies. And encourage Indian artists to visit Pakistan, competition would do our people some good. Obviously there should be restrictions against cheap propaganda but everything else should be allowed.
Zakk,
Easy go fella, in Pakistan, people used to see Indian Movies through Cable service, FYI. Banned was imposed on Indian Cable service 'cause of Anti-Islam and Anti-Pakistan views, soon after 9-11. I reckon it was a great step by the GOP.
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However, I dont know PTV's stance on the issue. The private channels show the video because their policies are a lot more lax.
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well, i been watching the video on PTV Prime so I guess PTV didn't mind it.
Good for Pakistani artists if they get ban from india :-)
I think the Pakistani performers should have enough dignity that they shouldnt go to India to begin with. They hate us and that is the TRUTH. Trying to think otherwise is just day dreaming. People like Ali Haider, Shehzad Roy, Junoon should accept the fact they two nations have very cold feelings for each other and they should quit trying to make peace, cause one thing is for sure even if there is peace it sure as hell wont come from junoon or kumar sanu or shehzad roy or somebody.
Secondly I dont agree with the article that say India should ban Pakistani artists as Pakistan ban Indian artists, cause if both countries started playing that nothing would get done. Its always gonna be like you killed one of our people we will kill two of yours and then we will kill three of yours and so on...
What we really need to do is just realise the basic facts and not run away from them. The leaders from the two countries should sit down and say ok fine we hate each other and we always will no point denying that, lets find a middle ground so we both can leave happily and peacefully. (which wont happen until Kashmir issue is solved) argghhh so we are back to square one and I typed all that for nothing.
Hmm, I think competition is healthy, the Arabs getting exposed to CNN and Fox's trash made Al Jazeera. By banning exchanges and interaction achieves nothing but ignores problems that will remain exactly where they are. Challenging them forces you to improve. While I am not saying allow everything but we need to keep that level of communication open.
Dr. Evil, I'm not sure about PTV Prime's censor policies. Also, PTV keeps changing its mind about issues all the time. For example, (as a side note) Najam's video Pal Do Pal Ki Chaahat Mein was banned on PTV (before Prime was born) because of the nature of the video (implications of sex), because of lyrical content (again, implications of sex), and because of this one scene where Iraj (fem model) is backless and the male model brushes a peacock feather against her naked back.
However, Prime is showing the same video.
Goes to show, PTV doesn't know where it stands itself, although usually they're more strict compared to the private channels. On my visit to pakistan, recently, some of the videos I saw I was pretty surprised at. Like there was one with that new girl from Misfit (also in YDAKH) - and she's clubbing (yeah, i know) and she ends up sleeping with the guy she's dancing with.
And YES, it was a paki video - i recognized the models in it as pakistani.
Karachi Colours: Pakistani musicians say Indians should be welcomed
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_2-4-2003_pg7_25
By Khurram Anis
Over the years, many Pakistani musicians have travelled to India and have played and won the hearts of the Indian public. However, the Pakistani public has very seldom seen top Indian musicians performing here.
Recently a group of top Indian musicians released a statement saying that Pakistani singers should be banned from coming and performing and releasing their cassettes in India, as this was the method the Pakistani government had chosen to follow where Indian artistes were concerned.
We asked all our singers what they thought should be the best possible situation. Should the Indians be allowed to come and sing here or should they be asked to sit back while we enjoy fanatical popularity in their backyard?
Junoon’s vocalist Ali Azmat said, “I think Indian artistes should definitely be allowed to perform in Pakistan. Cross-cultural activities should be encouraged as much as possible, which in my opinion helps to reduce the ignorance each side has for the other. Music is also the best way for reducing the fear of the unknown, something I feel Pakistanis and Indians have regarding each other. Once we understand each other better, there’ll be a better environment for a peaceful solution to the region’s problems”.
Salman Ahmed, Junoon’s guitarist said, “I think personally we (the people of the Subcontinent) should have as much bilateral exchange as possible. It will not only help us understand each other better but also help in reducing tensions. Therefore, cross-border performances should be a definite yes.”
Junoon’s bassist and the country’s only favourite American, Brian O’Connell said, “Art and music know no political boundaries and thus far we’ve been successful with crossing boundaries and exchanging friendship. But the deal should always be both ways, Pakistanis going to India and Indians coming here. Since art is a reflection of humanity and it shouldn’t be controlled by politicians”.
The Strings duo of Faisal Kapadia and Bilal Maqsood, who found instant fame in the Indian dance clubs with their early ’90s hit “Sar ki yeh bahar,” agreed that artists of both the nations should be allowed to travel to each other’s country without any hindrance.
Faisal said, “I think Indians should not be discouraged from coming here. What’s more, the exchange is always healthy for both the sides. It’s also good for the home crowd as they get to listen to a variety of music. Overall, cross-border exchanges have always helped the music industry both ways.”
Bilal Maqsood said he hoped that political issues wouldn’t interfere with the cultural values of any country. “Art should be allowed to live on. I think art is as important as food and air. Exchanging art and culture has always been beneficial for any country, especially where Pakistan and India are concerned. I also feel that Pakistani people are missing on living legends like Lata Mangeskar, Ravi Shankar and Asha Bohsle,” he said.
Metal singer, Baber Sheikh whooped “Most definitely!” “Foreign artistes, whether Indians or anybody, should always be welcomed as they bring with them new exposure of other cultures, plus broader horizons. We need awareness for art-related activities and also for the true art forms which open the minds of a nation.”
Entity Paradigm’s Ahmed Ali (more popularly known as Jutt from the sitcom ‘Jutt and Bond’) said that there should be no limits regarding art and it should be promoted no matter what. “If the Indians come here, this will give us a chance for healthy competition. Also, culture gets promoted and both parties will get a fair chance to adopt each other’s style”.
Jawad Ahmed said that inviting or greeting any singer should never be a problem as long as the deal is a two-way traffic. “We will always greet the Indians as they greet us there. But that does not mean that we compromise our national integrity. Like I’ve said inter-crossing traffic should be both ways. It has its pros, since primarily it encourages peace between countries. Personally, I believe music can promote good relations between Pakistan and India,” said Jawad.
Haroon said that the idea for Indian singers coming here was a good idea. “Sports and music should not cross the political realm. I think it would be a great way to encourage understanding and peace between both the countries,” he said.
Faakhir said that Indians were welcome, as long as they did not have a problem with our country. “Singers who do not have anything against our ideology and cultural values and those who are friendly with us will find that they are as welcome as anybody else is. Our hospitality has always been praised by the Indian actors, singers, sportsmen and even ordinary people. What’s more, Indian movies are easily available in every shop and Indian music is readily available everywhere in Pakistan. So why have double standards? Let Indian singers come here and perform and let us show them we are not narrow-minded and we are not afraid of competition. Pakistanis love culture and art, and that’s what we should show to the world,” Faakhir said.
Fakhr-e-Alam said: “There’s no harm in cross-boarder performance. In my view, only those artists or musicians oppose the presence of Indian musicians coming and performing here who are insecure and are not confident of their talent. I have no problems with Indians coming here and I think we need this kind of peace diplomacy in order to preserve the concept of love,” he said.
Ibrarul Haq said: “If they allow our singers and our performers, then I don’t see any reason why we shouldn’t welcome them. And I say the same where promotion is concerned. If they are willing to promote us, then we should also greet then with open arms,” Ibrar said.
‘We faced Indian rage after ’98 award’: Junoon
After winning the 1998 Channel V award in India for the best rock group category, Junoon faced immense pressure from Indian officials and never got a fair chance to perform there, said Salman Ahmad of Junoon.
“Since winning the award, Junnon has had a lot of difficulty to go and perform in India. Bombay is completely off-limits for any Pakistani artiste because of the Shiv Sena problem. Religious fanatics try their best to keep a dividing line between Pakistani and Indian artistes. Pakistani music is far more popular than the Indian music there,” he said.
One can understand such remarks from idiots like this abhi-character, as the Pakistani entertainers have dominated the Indian scene, as the latter didnt have much to offer... Look at Junoon, NFAK, Mehdi, Nazia...
Excuse me ?? Are you telling me that Junoon, NFAK, Mehndi, Nazia were/are bigger artists than RD Burman, Md. Rafi, Talat Mehmood, Lata etc ??
Junoon, Naazia, NFAK dominated Indian scene ?? 
yeah I know. Truth can be very bitter.
Welcome to Gupshup & Shor Sharaba, Febriona :)
FYI - I love Pakistani Artists.
Ofcourse… Apart from Rafi and LAta, those twoother guys you mentioned cant even be with close to the former… Besides, the people you mentioned are limited to filmi songs, in that crap otherwise known as Bollywood. Dont tell me you want Junoon to go and sing songs for your bollywood films 
to do a comparison.
Anywayz, if you put on the pop music crap on Sony, Zee, and the other indian channels, its not hard to understand why Nusrat termed you guys ‘untalented’
Look at Junoon, they went and made a mockery out of the other artists with their album not even having a single rival… I believe Channel [V] put them against international artists in the ‘best song’ category They got more competetion than that from Pakistani stars like Junaid Jamshed, Abrar, Haroon (awaz) etc.
Mehdi Hassan is unparalled. The only thing that surprises me that he was so popular in India, despite his Pro-Pakistani patriotic songs in 1965 that motivated our soliders to defend their territory against the Indian agressors. ‘Khitaye Lahore terey Janbazoon ko Salaam, shehriyoon ko, ghaziyoon ko, shehsawaroon ko Salaam’.
NFAK, I dont need an Indian to tell me he was not the greatest. Look at what Eddie Vedder and Peter Gabriel thought of him? ‘A part of me died with Nusrat’, was one of the quotes they gave. Red Hot Chilli Peppers is coming out with an album dedicated to him. Do you see an album dedicated by international superstars to your Anu Malik or RD Burman?
Anywayz, the people above were too good for the indian scene. Even people like Sajjad Ali, Adnan Sami, Shazia Manzoor, Strings etc have had so much success (which explains why their songs still run on [V], Sony, Zee TV, and other indian channels that shows music vidoes).
btw, if Shiv Sena and the other hindu terrorists terrorize our stars, then they will eventually stop going there. I dont think bands like Junoon, despite the success they had want to go there anymore, and there was a good article posted by someone in this thread which explained how the Band does not feel like going back due to the hostility. Even though at our side it is the Government who is stopping the Indian stars from coming in, and not some terrorist organization like the Shiv Sena, I bet the people would still welcome Indian stars to come in and perform.
Do you even know Who Talat Mehmood was ?? Have you ever listened to him ?? Ask anyone who has listened to Talat Mehmood Saheb. And what do you mean by ‘Limited To Filmi Songs’ ?? In India Soundtracks are so popular and successfull that one is not considered successful until he has composed music in Bollywood. NFAK himslef composed music for Bollywood films. About Junoon Singing for Bollywood - Well If NFAK, Sabri Brothers, Ghulam Ali etc can do that, Why cant Junoon. Junoon is not bigger than them.
Waise bhi Rafi aur Lata to maine sirf examples diye the - and you started Jumping. Rafi, Lata, Asha, Kishore, Hemant, Manna De, Talat Aziz, Shaqeel Badayuni, Hasrat Jaipuri, Naushad, Kaifi Azmi, Gulzar, C Ramchandra, Javed Akhtar, Jagjeet Singh, Ustaad Allah Rakha, Zakir Hussain, Pt. Ravi Shankar, Akbar Ali Khan, Bismillah Khan, Amzad Ali Khan, Hussain Brothers, Shiv Kumar Sharma, Hariharan, Yesudas, Vishwamohan Bhatt, Mukesh..Uff kitne naam loon main 
First of all NFAK never said that, It’s just a rumour by someone. NFAK himself Clarified that. POP is 
Who cares.
I can say the same about Md. Rafi, Lata etc - Who are so popular among Pakistanis despite Singing numerous Patriotic Songs. Mehndi Hasan is very good perhaps one of the best I have heard and People in India dont care about what he sang for Pakistan. People in India still respect Md. Iqbal and sing his ‘saare Jahan Se Acchaa’.
You are such a loser - Comparing NFAK with Anu Malik ?? May I remind you that Pt. Ravishankar Played with Beatles won couple of Grammy, Vishwamohan Bhatt won a Grammy, AR Rehman Plays with Andrew Lloyd Weber. There are more, Please let me know I will compile a list for you. NFAK was great and I accept that, but so are many other Indian artists. I am not going to Argue who is greater or better because It’s personal choice.
PS :- Every Paki friend I know, Prefers to listen to the Mirza Ghalib Sung by Jagjit singh and says, I wonder why they dont like the ones sung by Mehndi Hasan.
All these Channels also show non-stop Jhalaks of Stup!d Bollywood movies. That doesn’t mean they are all good. They are there just to fill in the slots, nothing else.
Bands like Junoon want to go to India and perform but they are afraid of their own government. Look what happened to them after their last tour to India. They were Banned. 
Asif_K, all that BS you wrote deserves no reply… All these names you mentioned are nothing… You just needed to type 2 pages to repeat your previous point.
And read what Junoon has to say about performing in India. Fear of the government, you made that up. I have talked to them personally alot of times, and Alibeta too, and they clearly said they look forward to performing in India. You seem to be stuck up on the fact that junoon was banned in Pakistan, whereas you dont know jack about the band, and what truly happened b/w them and mushahid hussain. Their album still soared the scene.
Bollywood is a piece of trash only people like you like that kanjarpuna called Bollywood
Nusrat himself said India had no talent. Even your indian buddies say that. No need to lie now, as the great man himself termed it.
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An exasperated Nusrat was quoted as having said that the instances of plagiarism were indicative of a lack of talent among Indian music**
And the above is an indian magazine, so have fun talentless sucker and go listen to Annu Malik, your so called living legend.