Disgruntled tribal elders of the Bugti tribe have urged the government to take action against elements obstructing development projects in the Dera Bugti area. They were speaking at a joint Press conference at the Khetran House here on Sunday. Jalal Khan Kalpar, Jamal Khan Kalpar and Tariq Masuri blamed the tribe’s chieftain (Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti) for the miseries endured by their fellow tribesmen, adding his actions had forced them to migrate to areas in Punjab and Sindh.
They accused Nawab Bugti of coercing the Bugti tribesmen and alleged that because of his oppression, thousands of tribesmen belonging to the Kalpar and Masuri sub-clans of the tribe had taken refuge in Sukkur, Dera Ghazi Khan and Rajanpur areas.
They said that they were being persecuted only because they (the Kalpar and Masuri sub-clans) supported development projects in their respective areas but their tribe’s chief was against development.
They claimed that the government had so far taken no action against the people who had killed more than 35 persons people belonging to the Kalpar and Masuri sub-clans during the past few years.
They denied they were agents of the army and said they were proud of the armed forces and being citizens of Pakistan. They announced to support the Musharraf government, which, according to them, had allocated massive funds for development schemes in the province.
They criticized the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan and Baloch nationalist parties for supporting oppressors against innocent people and maintained that the HRCP and the Baloch nationalists should not take sides and they should back the Baloch people who had been evicted from their homes in Dera Bugti.
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odd how the pseudo opponents of feudalism like those feudals who agree with them..I guess opportunism is a standard policy of Musharraf & his supporters..after all monkey see ..monkey do :p
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^Indian govt. & Indians on this web site……they need just a small thing to grab on to defame Pakistan/Pakistanis…You are right Reza,it’s very hard to defy the propaganda of 1.10 billion indians…
Re: Baloch tribal elders urge action against Nawab Bugti; Support Musharraf Government
Divide and rule, by using tribes who are feuding with Bugti to get the governments point across.
We will go back to square one again, when the government supports one sardar over another. The sardari system will continue, Balochis will continue to suffer.
Does anyone else not see the moral issues with bombing your own people with gunships and troops? Who knows what the "collateral damage" is? Baloch sardars and army generals are more alike then different. Both rule by force and I believe neither of them.
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Regardless of complaints, the way to deal with it is not to use force of arms.
I fully acknowledge that Balochs have had a raw deal. I acknowledge that the system for resolving the situation works against them.
I DO NOT acknowledge that they have the right to bear arms against Pakistan to force the situation; just like the MQM had no right to use force to help the Muhajir community.
The Balochs are not the first people to find that the government and legal system does not favour resolving their disadvantaged position.
If you look at the USA, you find that the Black community for decades had to deal with governments and courts biased against them. In the USA and Canada, native American communities are still dealing with the ongoing problems. Neither community resorts to terrorism in the same way that a minority of Balochs has done.
Since other communities struggled peacefully against a system that didn’t work in their favour for many decades longer than Balochs have, the traitors in Balochistan have no excuse for using arms.
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"When a nation faces armed rebellion, it can either lose territory to the rebels or fight back."
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And why does a nation face armed rebelllion?
India faces armed rebellion, coz kashmiris have been deprived of their rights.
Israel faces armed rebellion, coz the palestinians have been deprived of their rights.
America is facing armed resistance, coz she tried to steal the iraqi resources. ( again injustice )
Why is Pakistan facing armed resistance? Is it because we have also been depriving some people of their God Given Wealth?
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If they wish to challenge that peacefully, that is fine and it is their right.
If they wish to challenge that by attacking the nation, then their only right is death.
The wealth does not belong to the people. It belongs to the nation that the people are part of.
And the nation is called the pakistani nation - not the punjabi nation.
If they wish to challenge that peacefully, that is fine and it is their right.
Tell me how do people challenge something peacefully? It is through a political process. no? How many balochis are there in the Assemblies? How can only a few Balochis defeat Hundreds of members from Punjab? They have been shouting n crying for the past 58 years in the parliaments. There is a limit to every injustice. It starts paying back then.
If they wish to challenge that by attacking the nation, then their only right is death.
N those who will kill them, will also die, perhaps not now but some other day. So death is not the limit. And you can kill a few but you cannot kill the whole nation.
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what if india takes all the food grain punjab produces gives it to very poor states
leaving them with no food so why not let the local govermant sell thier resources
at market price?
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If they wish to challenge that peacefully, that is fine and it is their right.
If they wish to challenge that by attacking the nation, then their only right is death.
There are no less than 106 elected members from Balochistan province sitting in the Federal Pakistan parliament, and the Provincial assembly. Additionally hundreds of more members of parliament/assemblies from NWFP, Sindh and bad, bad old Punjab are supportive of extra development for Balochistan, hence there is absolutely no excuse for taking up arms, which means that only a external power is fuelling this, and arming some feudals.
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And the nation is called the pakistani nation - not the punjabi nation. **
Of course. I'm not Punjabi either and I recognise that resources are shared in the best way. But I believe in Pakistan and believe that given more decades things can be worked out.
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Tell me how do people challenge something peacefully? It is through a political process. no? How many balochis are there in the Assemblies? How can only a few Balochis defeat Hundreds of members from Punjab? They have been shouting n crying for the past 58 years in the parliaments. There is a limit to every injustice. It starts paying back then. **
Many provinces and peoples in many other countries have been peacefully trying to improve their situation for far more than just 58 years. The militant minority of Balochs should be more patient, should wait several more decades.
N those who will kill them, will also die, perhaps not now but some other day. So death is not the limit. And you can kill a few but you cannot kill the whole nation
You don't have to kill them all - you need only target those who're trying to fight. Killing all the Balochs would be a terrible thing for Pakistan. An uninhabited land is of little use to a country. Pakistan needs Balochistan to be as densely populated as possible, but to also be willing to work within the framework of the state.
You will observe too that the elected representatives of the Baloch people in the provincial government do not promote violence against Pakistan, despite sharing in the problems of the province. It is only a small minority that is a threat to Pakistan and is currently being neutralised by our forces.
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We won’t take any lectures from any Indian’s who kill civilians because they protest at dams being built on their land. Dams that will obviously be used to provide for other parts of India.
**Three killed as BSF opens fire in Manipur **
Three civilians were killed and six injured when security personnel resorted to firing to disperse a crowd which obstructed construction of Khuga Dam in Churachandpur district of Manipur late last night. Sources said inhabitants of areas around Khuga Dam, demanding compensation, destroyed equipment and machines at the dam complex and tried to set fire to offices at Khuga, about 70 kms from here. The crowd also set fire to a police vehicle carrying personnel from Churachandpur police station. As the crowd turned violent, Border Security Force personnel deployed to protect the dam opened fire.
More police forces from Imphal have left for the spot.
…they need just a small thing to grab on to defame Pakistan/Pakistanis…You are right Reza,it’s very hard to defy the propaganda of 1.10 billion indians…