It is obvious India is not going to suspend work and continue to build the dam.
What can Pakistan do? NOTHING.
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What exactly is your point?
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The point is India can do whatever it wants and when it wants. Pakistan can do nothing apart from lip service.
This is probably the greatest threat to Pakistan as it will reduce water supp;y to Pakistan. So, what is Pakistan doing about this? Nothing apart from lip service and begging world bank to intervene :)
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So you think this exploitation is a good thing?
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What exploitation? Please elaborate.
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Sometimes neighbours cooperate, thats a good thing, call it dilpomatic goodwill. Alot of peoples lives will be affected if the water supply is cut out The slope between Iran and Pak border is such that if Pakistan wants, it can pump out alot of oil from Iran but there was an agreement signed which ensures such a thing wouldnt be done. Again, this is diplomatic courtesy, and India should heed to it.
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I think that the Pakistani FO is making a molehill into a mountain with the Baglihar thing.
Baglihar is not a dam, but a hydel project which is a 100% run of the river design. Run of the river meaning that India cannot impound the water for more than 7 days, which would be a major violation of the IWT. When I last looked at the design, they have given for no more than 10 days worth of storage at normal, summer-winter flow levels. At peak times, it could fill up in half the time. But IWT als ogives out specific times of the year as to how much storage is allowed. The question is on the spill gateways and other design aspects which could be argued as to violating the IWT. We can discuss that.
If India wants to use the structure to somehow stop the Chenab - it will inundate millions of square feet up to Doda and possibly as far upstream as Kishtwar. It will kill and/or displace thousands to lakhs of people, Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs. Why would we want to do that?
But Pakistan is saying that the project itself should be scrapped. It is not viable. This project is 100% for the benefit of the Kashmiris. Factories there face 60% load shedding. It will bring jobs and prosperity.
Some Kashmiris I’m in touch with, who are 100% anti-India support his project and feel that Pakistan’s hysteria over it shows that Pakistani establishment wants to keep Kashmir as just a water and power supply for Punjab, like they did with the Mangla dam.
Let’s face it - population is increasing on both sides. We have to share scarce resources and no one side can play with fire by messing with the other side’s livelihood. If Pakistan raises hysteria with Baglihar, it will only lead to the collapse of the IWT itself - meaning that there will no longer be any legal basis and India as the upper riparian will end up with most of the cards.
Instead, we could and should work out some compromise.
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It's funny that when Sindhis oppose Kalabagh Dam for very similar reasons, we are termed anti-development, but when Punjab opposes Baglihar Dam, it is the right step?
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Sadiqaan, why is it that jahil villagers like you bitch all the time about “pujab domination” ?
If India cuts water it will affect Punjab but also SIndh. But all you do is bitch. what is hell do you retarded people really want ? you want to destroy our pakistan ? well guess what its not gonna happen.
YOu cry about democracy. Well guess what 60% of pakistanis live in Punjab, so according to democratic principles you reject it, because you are a racist. I was born in Sindh But according to you I am a “alien” because I am not a sindhi speaker.
Pakistan Zindabad
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Sure Pakistan can do a lot, we can send your Baglihar to your Kali Mata.
The problem with you is that you are a achut from tamil Nadu, and are jelous that we minority ruled your black butts for 600 years. And yet you can not do anything about a small pakistan, even though you black butts are 1 billion in population.
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LoL. Lot’s of fantasy in this racist rant. What are the mods doing?
Anyway, who’s “we”? Most Pakistanis are Punjabi Mussalmaans, who ruled no one and were ruled by Sikhs. You can say that the brave ones were the ones who refused to abandon their faiths 
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listen tamil clown,
We Musalmans of northern South asia are all the same. Our great ancestors, Babur, Ghori, Ghaz-ni, aurangzeb, Tibu sultan etc were the heros of all of our south asian musalman. They ruled Much of South asia for 600 years even though they were a minority. And Punjabi Muslims were in the armies of our great kings, and controled punjab for them. Baadshahi masjid was not made by the sikh, it was made by our mughal kings. But yes it is true that sikhs controled upper punjab for 100 years, but your bhindians shouldn’t get too happy.
Ak-hbar the great was born in Umarkot sindh. Jahangir the great is buried in Lahore.
The fact of the matter is that Pakistan is the continuation of Musalman ruled that started by the Lohdis. Your India may be bigger cause you have too many black butts, but you people still can not do anything to your former masters. 
and no I am not a punjabi pakistani, I am a decendent of rulers of Lacknow, who also ruled black butts of UP for the mughals. :biggthumb
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Guys can we stick to the topic please....
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I’ll be glad to, if you can do what needs to be done with someone saying stuff like “black butts”
Otherwise I’m always there to teach these clowns some history.
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Bacche, you and your black butt fantacy raises doubts that your arse was reamed by some big black dude.
cry some more kid it will make you feel better.
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How convenient!
Most of the Muslims in South ASia are non-Pakistani. Your ancestors too were butchered or converted by Ghaznavi,Ghori,Slave kings and the Mughals.
Unless you can prove to me that you trace your lineage to Mughals, you are effectively just a wannabe joker who is ashamed of his lineage.
Really. And I’m descended from Maharaja Ranjit Singh. 
You guys are such jokers. Even though your ancestors were converted, you guys pretend to be descended from the Mughals. Let me give you a hint - Just because you’re a Muslim, you cannot claim the mantle or legacy of any historic Muslim ruler. Why not claim the legacy of Mir Jafar then? Oh I forgot, Iskander Mirza was a descendant of Mir Jafar. 
Most Pakistanis are Punjabis and Sindhis. Ergo, they were all Hindus who converted to Islam during various times. Surrendering to a marauder and accepting his faith does not mean that you can claim their throne.
I could only imagine if a Punjabi Muslim had told this during Aurangzeb’s time - The emperor would have laughed so hard and ordered the guy’s head cutoff.
I know everyone claims to be a Sheikh or a Syed or a Mughal, but just claiming doesn’t make one a royal.
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indeed some valid points. here are my two cents on this issue.
First, Lets see what the problem is. I would try to be as simple and as straight as possible. Pakistan objects to India’s construction of the 450-megawatt hydro-power Bagliar project, which started in 1999 and would be operational by April. It claims the project violates the Indus Waters Treaty and would affect the flow of river waters to its territory, while India denies such a charge, saying it does not take water from the river.
However, as per my information, construction of Baglihar Dam according to India’s design will result in submerging the entire Doda district in occupied Kashmir, which indictates that India is planning to store water more than 10 days of storage.
Second, when the flow of water would stop from the Chenab River at different parts of the year, what would be the overall impact of this act on the agricultral activities of the land?
Third and most importantly, India could not as the upper riparian build a dam that did not have the specifications that were contained in the Indus Waters Treaty.If we do not resist today, chances are that India will make few more dams in the future under the same logic.
Please also keep in mind that Pak is not demanding the complete demolition of the dam. It is asking that India should revise design of the dam in accordance with the specifications laid ouat in the Indus Waters Treaty.
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Pardon my French but this is bull$hit. This “Doda will be submerged” is nonsense spouted by the jihadi groups and their moutpiece Geelani. Doda is one of the most populated regions in the Valley, lakhs will be displaced. There will be hardly any displacement.
Little to none. The powerplant needs water to run through. There will be no storage beyond a minimum needed.
Bad move. If Pak persists with an all or nothing approach, IWT will be invalidated. And without the IWT, Pakistan has nothing to hang its hat on other than bilateral talks.
Don’t take my word - do a google on the negotiations between Slovakia and Hungary over river sharing. From 1992, to the ICJ it is still pending in 2005.
Nope. The tactics are like the Tulbul Navigation deal where India listened to Pak objections and finally forced to abandon because Pakistan would not agree to any design.
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Listen you Tamil clown,
IF Polish Jews can be proud of King David of Ancient Jerusalem, If Turks in Turkey can be proud of Temur Lun of samarkand, then why can’t we Pakistani/south asian musalman be proud of our ancestors.
We claim the ancestory of all those people because its a matter of group identity. Just like there are non-punjabi sikhs in India who take pride in Ranjit singh.
Ok tell me Ak-hbar the great, Aurangrez were not “Indian Musilms” of 1500 ? Sure we are not all direct decendents of Kings, but the kings were part of our “ancester group”. The musalman of north india/pakistan are the same people. We are racially, religious, culturally, generally the same and we have the same historical bonds. And we are proud of our Mughal heritage and musalman heritage in general.
and listen I am a “syeed”, not because I am a member of a royal family, but that is the name of my family line.
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pak braveheart, can you please post a pic of your syed butt to prove its not of black hindu origin? muchas gracias.