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Siniorita, como estas,
A syeed butt is a respectable butt and is never intended for the internet.
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Nope. Doesn’t work that way. Most Pakistanis were Hindus until a few centuries ago.
Phat gayee naa? 
There are more South Asian Muslims outside of Pakistan than inside, so Pakistan can claim nothing. I went to school with a descendant of the Nizam of Hyderabad. He is a proud Indian. In the US, I worked with a descendant of Siraj ud Daulah, who is a Bangladeshi.
Pakistanis cannot claim anything. 
Akbar was an Indian ruler. And his descendants are equally split between India, 'Bangladesh and Pakistan. Just because you are a Muslim, you cannot claim sole ownership of his heritage. Every Christian guy cannot say he is descended from Christopher Columbus
Nope. Punjabis are different than Baloch who are different than Brahui who are different than Pashtuns who are different than Bengalis who are …
Get the picture?
Only a teeny weeny minority, those belonging to the royal familiesm can claim uniform race and religious heritage. And I’m sure you are not part of that unless you can prove lineage. I know it hurts. But its the fact. Most South ASian Muslims were Hindu converts a.k.a Black Butts who are ashamed of their black butt
And I’m proud that I live on planet earth. But that’s not saying much. Can you prvoe that your specific ancestors were kings, nawabs, nazims or Generals under any King? You are not a Royal, so your ancestors were black butts like mine. Only thing was that they converted.
Yes. I know, every one wants to be an Ashraf as I posted above. But sadly, you cannot prove royal descent. So you are nothing but a black butt, like 99.9999% of people in South Asia. 
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stop the non sense and keep this for other threads, why dont you people discuss the issue without weangling into personal attacks.
the dam is basically unlawfull and Pakistan should send a stern message, not just lip service. i would opt for pre emptive strike if needed. if nothing works diplomatically.
my native village is on chenad river and near to indian held kashmir LOC. there is Mirala Head works that manage the water of chenab. and two canals are derived at this first point, and then further Head works down streams as well. What will that do if the water is stored and controlled up stream???
clearly it will hinder the process of irrigation in Pakistan. according to IWT three northern rivers to be used by Pakistan.
What the hell india trying to make out of it by making mockey or international pact.
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Listen you Bhindian Black butt,
We Pakistanis on average have more Aryan, Pathan, persian and more foreign blood in us. Most Bhindians have Dravidian blood. We are not all exactly the same. That is why pakistanis in general tend to be taller and lighter skin then most bhindians.
Just cause you are a black butt, why are you pulling us towards you ?
And no most of us pakistanis accepted our musalman faith in by the 12th century, not “a few centuries ago”
And Akbar is a hero of northern south asian muslims. HE was NOT an “indian” in the modern sense, cause there was no called India back then as we know it now. India was a collection of differnt feuding kingdoms which were only UNITED by the Mughals for the first time. If Akbar was alive today, he would have more in common with me, then you black butts. because we have the same race, religion, cultural, historial roots. 60 years ago there was “british India” and back then all of us nothern south asian musalman were one people.
So stop trying to teach me my ancestory
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listen, you Pakistani Black Butt,
Pakistani Punjabis have same racial and ethnic make up as Indian Punjabis. Pakistani Sindhis have nearly same make up as Indian borderland Gujjus. You have your kallus and we have ours. Between these two, it accounts for over 80% of Pak population.
In other words, your butt is as black as ours, for the most parts.
Because your butt is just as black, kyon Mr. Kala G. 
Yeah and my Uncle is Bill Gates. :biggthumb
Only a few landlords in Central Punjab coverted to Islam during the Ghaznavid time. Another small group converted during the Mongol whipping to the Turk butts when all the chiefs north of Chenab were still Hindus. The Lankahs of Multan, the Sumras and Sammas of Sind too converted then but they were Ismailis and followed Rajput traditions and were not real Islamic rulers. The majortiy of Khokars converted under mortal threat during Babur’s reign. Many others converted in later part of Mughal rule, like the Arains. The Chiniotis only converted in the 1800s and and the Kidwais, Memons and trading classes a bit before. There were many conversions during the partition too.
So quit this BS, Kalla G
Nope. Akbar had Turkic and Central Asian heritage. You do not, Kallu mian
Why, does it hurt Kallu mian?
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your agument contains an enormous lapse in logic…“taking pride in” is not the same as “claiming lineage from”. that’s fine that you would take pride in muslim invaders, no matter how despicable, but to pretend you are a descendant is pretty sad. an “ancestor” is not some sort of emotional bond like you are implying…it’s a blood relation.
you think the tiny population of mughals and other invaders spawned hundreds of millions of muslims? don’t be a fool…most desi muslims are converted shudras (low-caste hindus). do you really think the Mughals were intermarrying with shudras? lol…sorry, but your glorious ancestry was that of streetsweepers. though this is nothing to be ashamed of, you should at least acknowledge it.
what this has to do with the Baglihar dam…i have no idea.
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Get a grip!
IWT allows India to build power plants in the northern rivers. Some aspects of the design may be cause of concern, but that is for negotiations.
Pakistan’s water crisis is not because of India, but because of internal issues. You guys waste 80% of your freshwater supply because of water logging, poor canal maintenance, salinity and escape into sea. Add to that, you cannot find internal consensus build dams and manage your resources with equitable distribution.
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This is bunch of BJP bs.
as I said before Mussalans of northern INdia/Pakistan are generally more light skin. While in your caste system. the upper caste are light skin, the lower skin.
So your argument does not make sense. THe more north you go in south asia the more Aryan influence you have. The more south you go the more dravidian influence you have.
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LIsten you idiot,
Pak punjabis are close to hindian punjabis, but pak punjabis have also pathan infleunce in the west. Attock for example is a city of mix ethnicities.
30% of sindhis in our county are actually baloch by origin. and they are not the same as your gujjus who are been influence by marathas etc.
Your butts are more blacker.
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So you do admit that you are a Black Butt, kyon ji?
The question now is about how black the butt is. But that doesn’t affect the fact that you guys are fundamentally black butts and have little in common with the pure Turkic/Arab/Central Asian Muslim rulers of ancient India. This is like an Anglo American and German American claiming heritage from Chsitopher Columbus. All were white skinned, but heritage means direct descent.
Thanks for proving my point Mr. Pak Black Butt. :biggthumb
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listen you idiot,
some pandit jee is white washing you.
I have told you already we musalmans of northern India have been influenced by people to our north and west. but talking to you to a gadha like you is pointless.
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we have this and that blood in us, we are this we are that. i will bs whatever i want but i wont give any proof guess why, becoz i dont have any.
I Will call every documented proof as BS but what ever i say out of my potty mouth is right.
We are proud of color of our butt even tho it is used for the same purpose as any other colored butt.
get a life dude. you have some serious identity problem. BTW Akbar was first real indian king who thought abut india. He is respected everywhere.
Anyways did you get haddi this morning from your gora maliks:D .
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BJP? lol, please provide a link for the official BJP report on mughal influence over south asia’s muslim gene pool. you act as if the 95% of south asian muslims were NOT converted hindus, rather they are all descendants of mughals/muslim invaders. are you serious? this is not even a debated point amongst muslims, let alone historians. your ancestors were converted hindus (primarily from the lower castes), as are the ancestors of virtually all other desi muslims.
and why are you confusing Aryan influence with Muslim/Mughal influence? you do know that the Aryans entered the subcontinent thousands of years before Islam was even created, right? oh, i guess you forgot about that part. oops, there goes your skin-color argument.
there is nothing shameful about being from a low-caste ancestry, no need to invent a regal bloodline just to feel better about it.
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Mr.Talwar: Islam is a universal religion without any bounderies and without any ethnicity unlike hinduism.Though hindusim is moderating fast and many hindus themselves hate caste system but influence of centuries can’t be diminished in decades and the caste system has still gripped you very firmly as it is evident from your post.Before making any point in the future, keep in mind that there is no arab/turk/pakistani/indian or black and white in Islam.In Islam we are just muslmaans.
Islam zindabad
Pakistan paindabad
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Wasnt this discussion about the dam?
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Punjab has been cutting our water already, but you being born in Sindh still do not care about it? If you immigrate to someplace it is simply common courtesy to learn the local language instead of imposing your own over others. Pakistan is a multi national state, not Punjabibstan. That is why we have separate federating units, to stop one province from dominating another, but that the federating units are just in name right now. Look at the Lahore Resolution of what Pakistan is supposed to be.
Sindh has given a lot to the Mohajirs, but in return they have given us MQM and collabartion with anti Sindh elements.
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thank you…
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Guys this wasone long back and forth on ethncities/backgrounds when the issue here is Baglihar dam. Please open up a separate topic on the ancestory side discussion that is going on.
This may be a little off topic but where does the name Baglihar originate from? Also, how does this dam benefit India and particularly Kashmir?