Awein MBA

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Lots can happen in 2 days. Give him another chance.

^ I'll ask him to write some again for Ami tomorrow..

LOL

MBA is such an easy degree to get these days from most of the institutions. Anyone can get an MBA these days. MBA is only worthy if you get it from a top 10 business school in the US or the world. Otherwise, an MBA is useless....it doesn't even impress people anymore unless it's done in an ivy league.

But PCG that's the problem with desis these days. They think getting an MBA from some low ranked school, going to the Caribbean to get an MD, going to a 4th tier law school will give them prestige. They just want the title; they could care less about actually getting a worthwhile education and being the best in their field.

I completely agree.

wrong

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for being the best in ur field u need not go to the top 10 schools :emmy:
werna baaqi sub fuzool hain :hoonh:
inssan ke degree is just an entrance to the job world baaqi kamyabi uski hardwork & brain pe depend kerti hai not his university :@:

oh n prestige has NOTHING to do with a degree :emmy:
ye sub fuzool ke standards hain

I know this :yahoo: namaan

Yeah i agree with this. You need to be good at what you do. My husband who is a doc says one of the best doctors are the ones who graduated from carribbean.. (he graduated from one of the best med college) Its all about hard work and dedication. You know you want to be good at something.. how you get there doesn’t matter in the end.

Excellence ke peechay bhagoo, success jhak mar ke aaey gi :smiley:
Just be good at what you do, it could be MBA, art, whatever.

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:lifey: Spiral
well said

You can't compare medicine and an MBA.

Medicine degrees are pretty much the same the world over and just as rigorous as each other.

MBA's are very, very dependent on the institution offering them. Doing one from some random college or university won't give you any advantage (in my part of the world anyway)... that 'hard work and dedication' will get you much further than that piece of paper.

NOT true. An MBA and a law degree are heavily depended on the rank of the school.

Regarding medicine, yes you can get residency if you come from the Carribbean but it won't be a great residency and you will never be able to achieve the ranks of your colleaugues who graduated from good US med schools. For heavens sake I know people in the Carribbean that FAILED first year chem and are now becoming doctors in the Carribean and yes they will get residency and a job in the US but I would not want to be treated by them....I mean if you can't pass basic chemistry which is important for med school, I won't want you to treat me! Even regarding med schools, though everyone from Pakistan, India, East Europe, Carribbean, even a DO (fake doctor!) gets residency and is able to earn the same as doctors that graduate from here, they don't get the same respect and acknowledgment that their peers do who have graduated from prestigious med schools. Like it or not, that's how the education system works here. The university rank matters a LOT in the US. In Canada, not so much. Pretty much every university is at the same level in Canada.

So ranking of the school always matters. People in medicine are lucky coz they can graduate from mediocre schools and still get a job in some mid-west town because everyone needs a doctor at some point in their lives. How competent these doctors are is very much up for debate.

What I want to ask is, the best doctors, lawyers, engineers, accountants, business people, etc that we see being so successful, do they only come from ivy leagues and 'big' schools? I highly doubt it.

Spiral, it's a very common desi mentality. Everything is measured by prestige and the 'name'. Just like how unless you're a doctor or engineer, you're not good enough in the desi society. I feel pity when I see people like that, they appear to me as shallow beings who only learn to bask in their glory and put others down. Isn't it funny that Einstein didn't even go to college? Bill Gates is a drop out? I know Yale and Harvard grads who cannot spell. I have seen the smartest of kids who don't go to any ivy leagues. Two of my hubby's best friends are in their 4th year of medical school at Univ. of Miami, their age? 21 and 22, so highly smart that they did 6 year bs/medicine programs and are now going to John Hopkins for their residencies. And I think we all know the caliber and standards of JHU.

I have friends who are more successful in their careers than people I know who graduated from Ivy Leagues. We have so many examples on GS itself, people who didn't go to the omg-the-top schools in the world but have mA, flourishing careers. Forget careers, I have seen some really smart and intelligent people on GS who I am sure didn't acquire their skills from some school name. What we forget is that not everyone can afford to attend a big shot school, financial and family factors play a big part in these decisions. In the end, it's important to have the drive to be good and successful at what you do but you can't put a brand name on intelligence, and those who don't go to ivy leagues don't deserve to be put down.

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^:k: agreed

Exactly :lifey:

Well said. :biggthumb:

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hahaha comparing normal folks to Bill Gates, Einstein, Steve Jobs.......so funny....

People can say whatever they want.....the people working on Wall Street in the biggest banks and earning millions are all from the top universities, people in research and teaching at Harvard, Columbia, Michigan, NYU, Stanford all have gotten their degree from very reputable institutions. All the prominent people in the legal field are from the top 20 law schools. Most of the people in Government working high powered jobs are from the top 20 universities in the US. Nobody is saying that's how it should be....but that's how it is and I just stated it like it is.

don't know about law school. but definitely true about business school.

again agreed. regardless of whether Gates got a degree or not, he's not an ordinary person. of course, same goes for the others in the list.

for the rest of us ordinary mortals, getting a degree from a good school is probably the way to go.

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Trust me, I am a lawyer and the rank of your law school is very important! Just the name of your school opens up so many doors for you in the US. Again, not saying that's how it should be, but that's how it is so just accept it. The US is obsessed with prestige, materialism and what not and all the top law firms, banks, medical hospitals, universities, consulting firms judge a person based on where they went to school.

Thank you! It's so funny when people bring up Bill Gates and Einstein as examples....for heavens sake, they are not like us! They are exceptionally smart people who were at the right place at the right time. Us normals folks don't have that luxury.

Normal people?
Are Einstein and Bill Gates abnormal or aliens? :confused:

First of all.. I do agree somewhat with what stoppit said.

But seriously what do you mean even a DO??? lol do you know what a DO is? They are qualified to compete for residency strictly for MDs.. whereas MDs can't apply for positions reserved for DOs..

and you think getting residency is a joke?? let me tell you.. its HARD.. very hard.. and no one fake can get it.. My siblings are all docs.. my husband is a doc.. his whole family is.. trust me when i say this.. its very very competitive. They check everything on your file .. verify... interview... before you are offered a job.