Australia unlikely to tour Pakistan

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But can you blame Australia for not coming?

I mean Pakistanis in Canada are apprehensive in going to Pakistan?

why would a bunch of white guys from a country which has troops in Afghanistan and Iraq go to Pakistan?

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I would buy this argument if the cocky and ill-mannered Aussies did not have a history of doing the same before. They have been reluctant to tour Pakistan for a good 10-12 years now. In 2002 they did the same and we ended up playing in Dubai and Colombo. British troops are stationed in those areas as well but England did not cut short their tour in 2005. We all know that England whinge a lot on subcontinental tours about anything from food to umpires, playing facilities, lack of 'entertainment' etc. but lately they have I must say been making a lot less fuss about touring Pakistan than the Aussies.

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^ Exactly. Well said. If England can tour Pakistan without any problems...then I don't see why Aussies being bunch of wussies.

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Guys, cut some slack to the Aussies. If I were an Aussie player, I too would be very apprehensive of this tour. True, Zimbabwe have just been to Pakistan but that tour was no-where near high-profile as an Aussie tour would be. Alqaeda has a major beef with the Aussies because of their troops involvement in Afghanista/Iraq.

Yes, England toured Pakistan in 2005, but that was BEFORE the recent spate of suicide bombings. Safety DOES and SHOULD come first. All it takes is one nuthead to turn this into a major international incident.

New Zealand did tour in 2002 only to have a bomb explode outside their hotel killing 11 Frenchmen and others. As a result, Australia's 2002 tour was held at neutral grounds Sharjah/SL.

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*I went last year, and I wasn't apprehensive at all. Daily life is just that; routinely.

Australians are a bunch of pansy asses. That's all. I don't blame them. Mr. bigshot Hayden can talk all about boxing Ishant Sharma in the ring, deep down (no pun intended) he knows he lacks grapefruits. Same things applies for most of them. I am not bothered.*

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Aus vs Pak in Pak would be an awesome series, no doubt. Pakistan is a very underrated team at this point and Australia is down on confidence and just lost another of their great players Gilly. It would've been a great contest. But let's not forget this is just a sport. It's not worth risking your life after, from the Aussie point of view. If I was in the Aussie team, I would've probably backed out of the tour too. With all the stuff about Pakistan in the international media, how can the Aussie Team and their families feel safe visiting Pakistan?

Think outside the box. Let's not get stuck up over 'WE WANT TO SEE AUS VS PAK IN PAK'

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You do realize that this cancellation has more to do with IPL money than the security of the oh-so-precious Australian cricketers, right? I think you are the one who needs to think outside the box!

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^^ If that's the case then I don't need to think outside the box, I just don't have enough info.
What do you mean more to do with IPL money? I don't get your point. Please elaborate.

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*The dates for the IPL and the Pakistan tour are clashing. Any players who play in Pakistan will not get the entire money in their IPL contracts (because the money is based on the number of matches you play). This is also the reason why Symonds was offered so much more money compared to the rest of his teammates (because he was expected to skip the tour since he has been harping on about his "security" for months now), because the IPL bidders realized that the rest of the Australian players would probably not be able to play all the matches in the IPL schedule but Symonds would (since he won't be touring).

It's greed for their IPL contracts, and nothing else. "Security" is a washed up excuse.*

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Ahh!! I did NOT know that. Since IPL is a body recognized by all country's cricket boards, shouldn't they be making sure their T20 tournaments do not disturb any other international tours? That's something the ICC should enforce.

Back to the Aus Pak tour, how many of the Australian players are with the IPL? Can't be most of them right? Why can't the others tour with the younger players?

Maybe the IPL is a factor with some players being against the Pak tour, but the instability in Pakistan is definitely a big reason too, and I don't blame them for the that.

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Australian High Commission in Islamabad has advised Australia not to tour. Thats most likely the end of the tour.

I don't understand the idea of touring a country in which bombs go off regularly. Doesn't make sense, let the situation calm down, everyone was saying after elections, country will be stable but its more or less the same. Cricket is only a sport in the end, and I think PCB needs to see the situation from a foreign perspective.

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There are always International tours. English players are missing out on IPL as well. Some players have rightly asked ICC to have a month off international tours during IPL, this will allow everyone to participate, and prevent players from leaving their countries to play in the IPL.

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That's not a bad idea. Have a month of no international cricket except IPL. This way most cricketers around the world (who are not part of IPL)will be ensured of a 1 month break... and the others can enjoy the IPL without sacrificing their country's tours, make a lot of money and ofcourse pay a price for the money (no rest).

The problem ofcourse is that all the other cricket boards do not want to lose tours and cut down their revenue so that the IPL can make money.

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First, I am pretty sure the ICC members have to agree to that, so if they dont want the tours to be scheduled around IPL, it simply wont be (but its in their benefit, so their players can make money, and players wont leave their countries).

Second, its not really a problem, as countries can still tour other countries if they want outside ICCs FTP. The suggestion is that the month be off for IPL when ICC makes the future tours programme so countries are not bound to tour during that period.

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SAffies and Zimbs visited with no problems.

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who are you?

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*I’m a regular joe with no security guards. *

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Australia to decide on tour this week.

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Australia postpone Pakistan tour
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakvaus/content/current/story/341954.html

Australia have confirmed they will not go ahead with their tour of Pakistan later this month. Creagh O’Connor, Cricket Australia’s chairman, said the series was only being postponed and they hoped dates for a replacement trip could be confirmed soon.

It is unclear whether the latest bombings in Pakistan - at least 15 people were killed in suicide attacks in Lahore on Tuesday, less than two hours before the announcement - played any part in Cricket Australia’s decision. However, it had already become increasingly unlikely that the visit would proceed, with reports that Australia’s players did not want to go.

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with the recent bombings in Lahore...it just proves no city is safe. I don't blame them.