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^Yeah, we have to be reasonable. As disappointing as it is, no players hsould have to put their lives in uncertainty for a game.
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Guys, cut some slack to the Aussies. If I were an Aussie player, I too would be very apprehensive of this tour. True, Zimbabwe have just been to Pakistan but that tour was no-where near high-profile as an Aussie tour would be. Alqaeda has a major beef with the Aussies because of their troops involvement in Afghanista/Iraq.
Yes, England toured Pakistan in 2005, but that was BEFORE the recent spate of suicide bombings. Safety DOES and SHOULD come first. All it takes is one nuthead to turn this into a major international incident.
New Zealand did tour in 2002 only to have a bomb explode outside their hotel killing 11 Frenchmen and others. As a result, Australia's 2002 tour was held at neutral grounds Sharjah/SL.
That statement is sau aanay such and after today's bombings in Lahore, the Aussies are perhaps justified in postponing the tour. It only takes one religious nut to ruin it for everyone and it seems there are many such brain-washed fundamentalist nuts now roaming the streets of Pakistan. Now every security installation (military, police) is a potential target not to mention the civilian passers-by who often get caught up in the blast.
I am just a bit concerned about the precedent it would set. We can now almost forget about seeing visiting teams from Australia, NZ, England and South Africa in the near future. WI might tour if persuaded enough. The only two countries that I see touring Pakistan if given satisfactory security guarantees are India and SLA.
And since the bombings will never stop as long as our troops are still in FATA, the rest will just keep using bombings as a valid and justifiable excuse to avoid touring Pakistan
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And since the bombings will never stop as long as our troops are still in FATA, the rest will just keep using bombings as a valid and justifiable excuse to avoid touring Pakistan
It will not stop even after troops are out of FATA. It will not stop until sharia is imposed. I think Pakistan should just stop playing international cricket.
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I am just a bit concerned about the precedent it would set. We can now almost forget about seeing visiting teams from Australia, NZ, England and South Africa in the near future. WI might tour if persuaded enough. The only two countries that I see touring Pakistan if given satisfactory security guarantees are India and SLA.
Did you forget about Bangladesh and mighty Zimbabwe?
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Disappointments of cricket fans aside (and I am one), this is perhaps the right decision. The two bomb blasts in Lahore yesterday are a terrible reminder that Pakistani security agencies need to step up law enforcement significantly, before our major cities are considered safe for travel by high profile foreign teams. Extremely sad day for Pakistani cricket. But to keep things in perspective, my deepest sympathies are with all those who lost their lives or got injured in the terrible and senseless bombings that are happening all over Pakistan. May Allah protect all of us! Ameen.
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excellent decision by CA. :k:
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Can't really blame the Australians for cancelling the tour. It only takes one nut case to bring further embarrassment and shame to the country and its standing not to mention the carnage and mayhem it will leave behind. If God forbid the Australian team is targeted and some of them die no one will tour Pakistan for years to come.
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Well after the bomb blasts in Lahore, I have to change my opinion on this. I think It is better they stay at home. One player dead and we might loose the cricket licence to host games forever.
Re: Australia unlikely to tour Pakistan
Disappointments of cricket fans aside (and I am one), this is perhaps the right decision. The two bomb blasts in Lahore yesterday are a terrible reminder that Pakistani security agencies need to step up law enforcement significantly, before our major cities are considered safe for travel by high profile foreign teams. Extremely sad day for Pakistani cricket. But to keep things in perspective, my deepest sympathies are with all those who lost their lives or got injured in the terrible and senseless bombings that are happening all over Pakistan. May Allah protect all of us! Ameen.
Yes we should beef up security to protect our citizens from these fanatics but there is little one can do if a nutcase decides to ram his explosive-laden bike or car into a military or police truck or straight thru the gates of one of the buildings and blows himself up in the process. People who are brain-washed to such an extent that they are prepared to commit suicide bombings A, need help & B, are almost impossible to stop
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^^ that will never happen until all Pakistanis start to realize that Islamic radicalism is a major thread and stop blaming America for all the problems in Pakistan
I am infact glad this happened
100 Pakistanis being blown up does not effect an ordinary Pakistani
If a ordinary Pakistani cannot watch porn on his Internet, go watch a cricket game or cannot watch a bollywood movie then its a problem and will be compelled to take action
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^Yea, lets blame Iran and the Axis of Evil. The menace to world peace. America is so innocent and is protecting us from all evil.
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No I did n’t. Malik would probably be the most disappointed if Zimbabwe did not tour in future!
Rumour is Bangladesh are coming next month for an ‘absorbing’ series of 5 ODIs and a twenty-20 game. but still no test matches
ab naubat yahan tak aa gaye hai k sirif minnows se khelna par raha hai 
The more we play against these weaker teams the more we will come down to their level
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Suicide after suicide bombing, when will this stop? We haven’t seen so many suicide bombings even in Israel/Palestine, where they have have reason to do something like that.
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Yes we should beef up security to protect our citizens from these fanatics but there is little one can do if a nutcase decides to ram his explosive-laden bike or car into a military or police truck or straight thru the gates of one of the buildings and blows himself up in the process. People who are brain-washed to such an extent that they are prepared to commit suicide bombings A, need help & B, are almost impossible to stop
I am not so sure I share this helplessness. Yes, we are now veering into a non-cricketing discussion, but lets take this discussion in a logical direction. If mods feel, they can split it up. These suicide bombers get explosives from somewhere. Most likely these explosives are coming from our frontier law-less areas. Our security agencies should be keeping an eye on whats going on and choke the supply of such explosives. They also need to infilterate organizations that are committed to harming Pakistan and Pakistanis in the name of global jihad. Brain-washed suicide bombers should be caught in their steps and not allowed to have access to explosives. I am sure our security agencies can do a much better job in preventing such tragedies, rather than just "investigating" them after the fact and rub their hands to say "we can't stop a moron".
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I am not so sure I share this helplessness. Yes, we are now veering into a non-cricketing discussion, but lets take this discussion in a logical direction. If mods feel, they can split it up. These suicide bombers get explosives from somewhere. Most likely these explosives are coming from our frontier law-less areas. Our security agencies should be keeping an eye on whats going on and choke the supply of such explosives. They also need to infilterate organizations that are committed to harming Pakistan and Pakistanis in the name of global jihad. Brain-washed suicide bombers should be caught in their steps and not allowed to have access to explosives. I am sure our security agencies can do a much better job in preventing such tragedies, rather than just "investigating" them after the fact and rub their hands to say "we can't stop a moron".
Yes I know we are digressing slightly but I shall try and keep it short. Security forces could perhaps do a better job to minimise this threat (and they probably are already). Without their efforts we might see even more killings etc. Just before the recent tragic blasts in Lahore they arrested three people but it appears some of these terrorists somehow managed to by-pass the system and were able to complete their 'mission'. It would almost be impossible to ensure fool-proof security since weapons are readily available in our North Western province and there is no shortage of brain-washed individuals esp. in our tribal belt and among the masses. First and foremost we need to educate the masses and target their minds from a very young age. Teach them that such thinking is abnormal & unhealthy and suicide bombing is fundamentally evil and a sin in Islam. That suicide cannot be justified by one's circumstances, upbringing, pent-up feelings, grievances, sense of deprivation etc. So that people who have even access to such explosives are not brain-washed easily and think twice before carrying out such terrible crimes. Madrassahs (a lot still needs to be done) should be reformed and self-styled mullahs who eulogise or indirectly support suicide bombers in their various sermons must be quickly taken to task.
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http://www.dawn.com/2008/03/23/spt5.htm
Pakistan to face WI in Champions Trophy opener
By Our Sports Reporter
KARACHI, March 22: Hosts Pakistan will take on West Indies in the opening match of the 2008 ICC Champions Trophy, the International Cricket Council announced on Saturday.
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Schedule:
Sept 11: Pakistan v West Indies (Lahore).
Sept 12: New Zealand v Sri Lanka (Karachi).
** Sept 13: Australia v India (Lahore).**
Sept 14: England v Sri Lanka (Karachi).
Sept 15: South Africa v New Zealand (Rawalpindi).
Sept 16: West Indies v India (Karachi).
Sept 17: Pakistan v Australia (Rawalpindi).
Sept 18: South Africa v Sri Lanka (Lahore).
Sept 19: England v New Zealand (Rawalpindi).
Sept 20: Pakistan v India (Lahore).
Sept 21: Australia v West Indies (Karachi).
Sept 21: England v South Africa (Rawalpindi).
Sept 24: First semi-final (Karachi).
Sept 25: Second semi-final (Rawalpindi).
Sept 28: Final (Lahore).
Though the thread is about Australia not touring Pakistan and this above news is about Champions trophy, buttttt, would Australia refuse to come to Pakistan for ICCCT? All games are in Pakistan, would ICC go ahead with the tournament?
I know, its too early, but the way things have been in past the chances are that things are not likely to improve drastically enough to have no suicide bombings in few weeks prior to ICCCT.
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Hmm....such a huge event like ICCCT is going to start in pakistan .Agreed ,it is only in September .But how can they provide such enormous security for all those teams .Very difficult and responsible task for pakistan authority.
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Australia to tour Pakistan in 2009 and 2010 (CricInfo)
Nasim Ashraf: “…the PCB is very pleased that the Australian team will come to play in Pakistan.”
Cricket Australia: “We’re pleased to have reached agreement to travel to Pakistan to complete the postponed matches and to play in them in Australia…”
Two contradicting statements from the reporters?
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Yeah, sure, in year 2009 Afghanistan and Iraq will be democratic country, Taliban/Alqaida will be flying kites and Australia will tour Pakistan.
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Yeah, sure, in year 2009 Afghanistan and Iraq will be democratic country, Taliban/Alqaida will be flying kites and Australia will tour Pakistan.
:D
.............and democracy will also be prospering in Pakistan.