Aurangzeb - Bad ruler or Bad History

I was reading this article in favour of most controversial and most condemned Mughal emperor Aurangzeb.

Mughal Emperor Sultan Aurangzeb Alamgir : Bad Ruler or Bad History?

Interesting points and showing us a different picture. Whats your view on this.

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Hmm interesting. It is true that most Indians, at least from where I come from (=Maharashtra), regard Aurangzeb as evil. These same people, however, have respect for other Mughal emperors like Akbar.
The reason is because of his intolerance towards other religions. Another factor is because in the state of Maharashtra, the Maratha king Shivaji has God-like status in many households, and is regarded as many as their saviour from oppressive Mughal rule.
Shivaji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
After Shivaji died, his son Sambhaji was crowned the king. The Marathas were in constant war against the Mughals. Aurangzeb caught Sambhaji and asked him to convert to Islam. Sambhaji refused, and was tortured to death, his body cut into pieces and thrown away so that religious rites could not be performed on his dead body. People from Maharashtra have not forgiven Aurangzeb’s treatment of the son of their beloved king Shivaji, so most people still regard Aurangzeb as the villain.

Btw interestingly I tried searching for the historian Babu Nagendranath Banerjee, and could find no info on him from the first few pages of google search. All websites that showed up in the results just include a quote to the same sentence attributed to him “For example, historian Babu Nagendranath Banerjee rejected the accusation of forced conversion of Hindus by Muslim rulers by stating that if that was their intention then in India today there would not be nearly four times as many Hindus compared to Muslims…” I wonder if this person is real!

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While I do not know the details of Sambhaji's death/torture etc, the history books we read were not kind to Aurangazeb. That is all I know.

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True no further information is available online for Mr Banerjee. Here is another article supporting tolerance of Aurangzeb

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Which place has been shown in the video?

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Aurangzeb and reasons behind demolition of Mandir & Masjids by Dr. B. N. Pande

After critical examination of the farmans of Mughal emperors scholars like Tarapada Mukherjee, Irfan Habib and B.N. Pande have opined that Mughal rulers issued land grants for the maintenance of Hindu temples. The aforesaid first two scholars have studied the farmans of Akbar,Jahangir and Shah Jehan and have showed that these rulers had issu -ed land to temples particularly in Vrindabana, Aritha and Mathura. Dr. B.N. Pande on the other hand undertook the study of the farmans of Aurangzeb and paid attention to the religious policy of Tipu Sultan. Dr. Pande was nice enough to deliver two lectures on the themes “Farmans of Aurangzeb And Other Mughal Emperors” and “Tipu: An Evaluation of His Religious Policy” under the auspices of the Institute of the Objective Studies at the Academic Staff College, Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi on the 17th and 18th November 1993 respectively. In the first paper Dr. Pande has stated, after a critical examination and analysis of the farmans of Aurangzeb collected from various parts of the Indian sub contin -ent, that the Mughal Emperor **Aurangzeb had issued jagirs and cash gifts for the maintenance of temples namely Someshwar Nath Mahadev Temple situated at the confluence of Ganga and Yamuna at Allahabad. Mahakaleshwara Temple situated at Ujjain, Balaji Temple at Chitrakut, Umananda Temple at Gauhati and the Jain Temple of Shatrunjal and other Temples and Gurudwaras scattered over northern India. **

Dr. Pande has cited instances, which show** that Aurangzeb ordered destruction of temples and mosques and the mention may be made of Vishvanath Temple at Varanasi and the Jama Masjid at Golkunda. But the reasons have to be viewed and investigated in proper historical perspective. The aforesaid temple had become the centre of conspiracy against the state and similar was the case with the mosque as highlighted by Dr Pande.** On further investigation, it is reported that Aurangzeb had ordered raid of the temple in order to rescue women members of the family of a Minister of Rajasthan who had gone there on pilgrimage. The ruler of Golkunda after collecting revenue of the state, did not pay his dues to the Empirial Authority at Delhi. He buried this Khazana and erected a Jama Masjid over it. When Aurangzeb came to know of it, he ordered the demolition of the mosque. Dr. Pande refuted the charge against Aurangzeb that he was an anti-Hindu monarch and had established that Aurangzeb did not make any distinction between temples and mosques so far as state administration was concerned. Thus Dr. Pande has thrown new light on the role, character and personality of one of the brightest of the Mughal rulers.

Aurangzeb And Tipu Sultan: Evaluation of their religious policies

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It's amusing how much religion has always been hijacked for political gain in the subcontinent's history.

In the war between the "Muslim Hero" Aurengzeb and the "Hindu Hero" Shivaji, Aurengzeb's army included Hindu generals and Shivaji's army included Muslim generals.

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But can we say that war between Aurangzeb and Shiva Ji was on account of religious matters?

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Varanasi/Benaras, the resident Sarfaraz Qamar is talking about “Bharat Milap” and his hand-loom is working of famous Benaras Silk Sarees:wub:, the ancient town known for Shiv Bhakts, Bum Bum Bhole:k:

Shivaji was first Hindu Nationalist, who was pioneer in the India of Hindu Rashtra, his ideology was simple, A hindu majority country ruled by Hindu values, hence by default he was in contention against Mughal, Chankya would have been proud of him, his tactics especially the speed and concentrated attack on Mughal forces made Emperor Aurangzeb refer him as “Pahari Chuha”, another legend who created an empire out of nothing. He mainly employed Guerrilla tactics with deception, trickery as primary strategic techniques

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Even if a temple or mosque becomes a seat of conspiracy, it is insane to demolish entire building rather than finding the culprit, Mosque was erected in the place of old Vishwanath temple while no temple was erected at the site of any demolished mosque, the other destruction took place was as Shri Krishn janamsthan where mosque stand till present day was done by his orders. Imposing Jiziya on Hindu majority country itself is not tolerant, why majority should pay any special tax however less just because ruler is from minority? Aurangzeb's bigotry is part of entire Indian cultural folklore in Indian Punjab and around Kashi-Varanasi area!

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But looking at his actions of giving Hindus higher official places and donations to many temples, can we say that his bigotry was not religious, but of political nature?

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Even Modi's inaction was for political reason, overall even Muslim Gujratis have prospered in more than 10 years rule and he even did many sadbhawana fasts including one in Godhra. Can he can be termed as secular?? Even the concocted story of Raane of Cutch being dishonored is unverifiable?? Before battle of Chamkaur he took oath in the name of one god and allah as withness and then attacked retreating army killing all 39 of Khalsa soldiers including his two sons, survived and secured by two Pathan soldiers:), his bigotry was not only against non muslims but also against Sufi barelvi and shias as well, as I wrote before that my shia syed landlady told many Shias raised their children as Sunnis to avoid his persecution, these thing are alive in Kanpur local folklore.

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My thoughts precisely.

With regards to the question my view is that for the times in which he lived Aurangzeb was not a bad ruler but niether was he perfect.

I think History judges him on differet levels depending on belief but as a person, he was a very interesting man with a ruthless ambition but in those days most rulers were just as savage and some were a lot worse.

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The man is still controversial. On one hand there are people like Mufti Zarwali who consider him like a saint and on other side he is most hated and symbol of intolerance. Just came across this video about an painting exhibition in India against Aurangzeb’s act, which could not run due to interference by police.

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A detailed article answering the question about Aurangzeb relationship with Shiva Ji, his affiliation with music (as per article he used to write poetry in Hindi) and had darbari musicians.

http://islamicvoice.com/September2006/DebunkingMyths/
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Aurangzeb and local culture**

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From father’s side Aurangzeb was descendent of Timurid and Hindu Rajpoots, even had Hindu genral Mirza Raja Jai Singh who only lost one campaign,against Assam but never favoured Hinduism ever. He was known for taking not a single penny from his treasury for personal expenditure, named by many sunnis as Zinda Peer and role model of King (even though he imprisoned his own father:) ). Shaista Khan was a brave commander who took on Shivaji in his own territory and captured Pune and started living Shivaji’s palace, the master of deception, Shivaji raided and while escaping Shaista lost his three fingers, Aurangzeb trasferred him to Bengal. Sometimes Shivaji had two threats Mughals and Adil Shah empire of Bijapur.

India is the country of most sensitive people with maximum sensibilities, freedom of expression is right to tell people what they don’t want to listen, it should be allowed unless it causes immediate death of people like causing stampede. Our problem is not what Aurangzeb was but mosquitoes are:D

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freedom of expression is right to tell people what they don’t want to listen :omg:

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This is my personal view, dont expect a JAT (Just Animal Type:D) to have very high IQ, 16*2=8 that is why we are Jat:D

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From Jat, I remember, when were discussing Arabs and their contacts in Sindh, we read that Arabs recruited some people from Sindh and those people were called Jat.

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Scythian tribes entered during the reign of Indo-Greek king Menander, Mostly we were tribal by nature before Gurus came, None of the gurus were Jats but majority of followers were Jat. British recruited them in highest number, Jats are the most enrolled people in military, highest gallantry awards winner from Indian side. Dharmender and family is Jat:)
During school days people used to call me Just Animal Type:D,including my another beautiful senior Sushmita Sen I used to get pissed off and later I realized Right to freedom of expression is to tell what people don't want to listen, Now 16*2=8 THATS Y V R JAT is the sticker that I use on the rear glass of my car:D