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khakroobooN ko sara gand bani gala phaink aana chahiyee...let IK know how it feels in New Pakistan
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There was no attack really. Kicking a huge metal door a few times is not really an attack on the house.
However I support such an attack, if these people can threaten to attack Parliament then their own houses cannot be considered sacred.
You are jumping one step ahead of Nawaz Sharif. The job to contain anarchists must be done by police not Gullu Butt, Lallu Butt, or Chuttu Butts of PMLN.
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This should also include the bill of cleaning to IK and TuQ who should pay from their pockets not from collected chandah.
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You are jumping one step ahead of Nawaz Sharif. The job to contain anarchists must be done by police not Gullu Butt, Lallu Butt, or Chuttu Butts of PMLN.
Hopefully in Pakistan one day the police would be efficient and fearless and carry out its job in strict manner, however we are not there yet.
The anarchists are doing a dharna in islamabad, beating up journalists, threatening to challenge the writ of the state and to overthrow the legitimate government of Pakistan, irrespective of personal likes or dislikes. These elitists seem to be above the law. They are not attacking PML N but the state of Pakistan. If you raise emotions so much in the country then there is bound to be some backlash. You can blame the people that demonstrated outside SMQ's house and got a bit too excited and landed a few kicks on the door, and police promptly stopped them and took them away. However personally I blame the people at Islamabad and their irresponsible speeches which are made for short term political gains without being thought through. Any sane person would expect a backlash when such language is used. The people that should be setting a good example are inciting violence and deserve everything they get as a result of their own stupidity and irresponsibility. When you play with fire you have to expect to get burnt, and its no point in crying after the event.
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^ then lets take the blame one step further and blame it on the right person i.e. the government for not paying attention to demands, not taking steps to ensure that it doesn't come to this point, for changing people in administration who were assisting in investigations etc.
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Paa’i jaan chodhry, yeah Khawaja sahab kisi college/university ke ander rehtay hain? The kids are obviously students, holding Insaf Student federation’s flag + the building in the background are definitely that of college or university campus
Also, Khwaja sahab lives inside lahori gate area. does this look like Lahori gate area to you?
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Paa'i jaan chodhry, yeah Khawaja sahab kisi college/university ke ander rehtay hain? The kids are obviously students, holding Insaf Student federation's flag + the building in the background are definitely that of college or university campus
Also, Khwaja sahab lives inside lahori gate area. does this look like Lahori gate area to you?
Kh. Saad Rafique lives in DHA. But this sit in is at Lalik Jan chowk, far from Saad Rafique's home. This picture is just a foolish attempt to counter after PMLN goons attacked SMQ's home in MUltan
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The anarchists are doing a dharna in islamabad, beating up journalists, threatening to challenge the writ of the state
Please cite an example of anarchy in the long march?
Please cite an example of protesters beating up journalists? (unless you are talking about Hanif Abbasi led goons beating up an ARY reporter yesterday?
Please tell me who the parliament belongs to, if not the people?
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There was no attack really. Kicking a huge metal door a few times is not really an attack on the house.
Feel free to post your address maybe mob of people show up and kick door few times and you and your family may feel different in this matter. I consider attack on private property as part of gulloocracy. This is reason when govt talk about law and order, they have no credibility on this and any issue.
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Please cite an example of anarchy in the long march? Please cite an example of protesters beating up journalists? (unless you are talking about Hanif Abbasi led goons beating up an ARY reporter yesterday? Please tell me who the parliament belongs to, if not the people?
yes only example i saw with geo reporter, IK publicly apologize in his speech. can anyone imagine NS doing that?
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there is not enough money in NS coffers to hide facts, his over paid bloggers could never make cogent argument of why justice is not applied to everyone. if Mob of people went to Ns estate and kicked door, i am sure you would have police making arrests.
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There was no attack really. Kicking a huge metal door a few times is not really an attack on the house.
However I support such an attack, if these people can threaten to attack Parliament then their own houses cannot be considered sacred.
what idiotic way of looking at things. How do people inside the house know what are the intentions of the mob. Were they planning to break inside and do what do people inside? these uneducated clowns led by corrupt politician will do anything to save status quo for few worthless rupees.
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Don't play with words. If I gathered a crowd outside the white house and capital hill and asked them to resign otherwise I and my followers will storm it. What would happen? I would be locked up for advocating an overthrow of a government. This has not got anything to do with the parties you are challenging the state itself.
you need to read up on 1st amendment. you don't get thrown in jail for saying things even front of white house. read some of the mafiesto of right wing KKK Hate groups (over 20000 group nationwide) who want to overthrow govt but they are not thrown in jail. its called freedom of speech. People protest all the time front of white house and call president many vulgar names and ask congress to impeach him. but if you go to any one's private property and kick doors, you do go to jail or get shot, homeowner has right to shoot you in some states.
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Peaceful protest also has to get consent of the police for it to be lawful. If I got cranes and started removing containers and went outside the area allocated for my protest then it does not remain a lawful protest, not that asking for a overthrow of a government is a lawful protest. If I threatened violence and incited my crowd to violence then it is not a lawful and peaceful protest.
If you people don't even understand the basics of law then I give up, then rule of jungle would apply.
were container there to begin with or used to block protestors? govt. threatened violence even before the protestor left lahore. Was that lawful? What democratic country uses containers to block protestors? you can have your opinion, but not your own facts. is this first time protestors gathered front of parliament or is it first time someone threatened to overthrow the govt?
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^ then lets take the blame one step further and blame it on the right person i.e. the government for not paying attention to demands, not taking steps to ensure that it doesn't come to this point, for changing people in administration who were assisting in investigations etc.
that would require the use of logic, overpaid bloggers from this govt are not permitted to do this. i just hope they get enough money to justify selling their souls.
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^ then lets take the blame one step further and blame it on the right person i.e. the government for not paying attention to demands, not taking steps to ensure that it doesn't come to this point, for changing people in administration who were assisting in investigations etc.
Whatever the faults of government are, you cannot excuse people like IK and TUQ, and ignore their conduct. Nobody has the right to challenge the state. Police are an organ of the state.
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were container there to begin with or used to block protestors? govt. threatened violence even before the protestor left lahore. Was that lawful? What democratic country uses containers to block protestors? you can have your opinion, but not your own facts. is this first time protestors gathered front of parliament or is it first time someone threatened to overthrow the govt?
Even in a country like England you cannot just turn up anywhere and demonstrate, you have to notify the police in advance and seek their permission. On the grounds of public order they can refuse you permission or impose conditions. You have to respect the police. I don't know about any threats by government perhaps you can provide some links.
Irrespective of right to peaceful protest, if you incited overthrow of government and incitement to violence then you will be locked up before even doing a protest.
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you need to read up on 1st amendment. you don't get thrown in jail for saying things even front of white house. read some of the mafiesto of right wing KKK Hate groups (over 20000 group nationwide) who want to overthrow govt but they are not thrown in jail. its called freedom of speech. People protest all the time front of white house and call president many vulgar names and ask congress to impeach him. but if you go to any one's private property and kick doors, you do go to jail or get shot, homeowner has right to shoot you in some states.
There is a difference between asking for a legal change (impeachment) or protesting and sedition. Notwithstanding first amendment sedition still remains a crime in the US.
Show me one country in the world in the world where sedition is lawful?
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There is a difference between asking for a legal change (impeachment) or protesting and sedition. Notwithstanding first amendment sedition still remains a crime in the US.
Show me one country in the world in the world where sedition is lawful?
oh please i can give hundred of examples. here is one from last election.
She still ran for congress and lost. No she didn't go to jail. try googling 2nd Amendment as well. that will help you understand this.
Sharron Angle, the Tea Party candidate turned Republican primary winner in Nevada, has taken heat for a number of extreme affiliations and policy positions. One of the more outlandish was a statement she made during a radio interview last January in which she floated the idea that the public would bring down an out-of-control Congress with "Second Amendment remedies."
Who decide what sedition is you (thinks its ok to destroy personal proerty) or King NS who hires gull butts to dispense justice on streets?
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oh please people protest not because they like what the king is doing but they want change yes even his rule. this govt is most violent against its citizen. go preach to police attacking unarmed civilians in model town about violence. so much hypocrisy.
http://tune.pk/video/67907/nawaz-sharif-attack-on-supreme-court-a-rear-footage-part1