Attack on qadianis in Mandi bahauddin

[FrozenFire]

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@SalmanNY

Frozen fire, do you even know that according to your teachings of Ahemdiya Movement, us Muslims are NON-MUSLIMS to you ? You are NOT allowed to pray in our Mosques ? And then you have the NERVE to come and tell us not to call you ‘Non-Muslims’. ?

excuse me?.. yes according to us you are non muslims becuz i already told you why… just swear to your God Almighty and put ur life on line and say that the kalima that ahmadis believe in and recite is totally different than other so called “muslims” ?.. if not, and calling us non-muslims actually making urself a non-muslim

[FrozenFire]

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Mirzais have been declared a non-Muslim minority. Death is the penalty for apostasy, and an apostate, must be put to death.”

(Qari Manzur Hussain at the Conference)

wah re wah QARI teri KAARIGARI

[PakistaniAbroad]

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it's sad.. minority sects will always get their asses kicked till they unite against the Sunni ghunda geeree..

[Diva4U]

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@SalmanNY

Frozen fire, do you even know that according to your teachings of Ahemdiya Movement, us Muslims are NON-MUSLIMS to you ? You are NOT allowed to pray in our Mosques ? And then you have the NERVE to come and tell us not to call you ‘Non-Muslims’. ?

SalmanNY :- In regards to your comments above ^
Ahmadis do not call muslims - “non-muslims” as stated above. Listen below for an explanation.

http://www.askislam.com/Religions_and_Beliefs/Islam/Sects/Answer_263.html

[rally]

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^ So why don't ahmadies read janazah of a non ahmadi?

[bao_bihari]

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Hmm-

Not a good sign-People of khatm e nabuwat never have resorted to such things- it is still to be verified that this act is done by some mirza hater group or some other third party trying to put pressure on pakistan-

unfortunate peolpe-i feel sorry for them- they could have died as muslims-end of story for them-

[system]

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@Talwar

This is just sad. My prayers for the victims and their families. Actually, last month here near where I live (US), an Ahmadi mosque was attacked by a young person driving a new Navigator SUV. Sick minds.

Where do you live? The States?

[system]

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@farikhta

If you’ve read my post properly, I clearly mentioned The attack on Ahmadis are really terrible!.

Yes but have the desceny of leaving religioun out of it…

[system]

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@bao bihari

Hmm-

Not a good sign-People of khatm e nabuwat never have resorted to such things- it is still to be verified that this act is done by some mirza hater group or some other third party trying to put pressure on pakistan-

unfortunate peolpe-i feel sorry for them- they could have died as muslims-end of story for them-

Im sure they will say the same of you when you die:)

[Numb]

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@farikhta

@Diva

If you’ve troubles understanding what I’ve said, I’ll repeat it again. Ahmadis are not Muslims. That was the point I made in my previous posts. I also ** condemned the attacks ** , if you hadn’t noticed. There are no owners of Kalimah’s. If you’re a Muslim, you say the Kalima. If you want to be a Muslim you say it. There is no compulsion in religion.

you aren´t a MUSLIM either Ameen

[Numb]

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Wasn´t Noah a Prophet of Allah? Hmmm, can only Jesus, Moses and Muhammad Mustafa (saw) be the Prophet´s?

A Prophet brings a new law with him, given by God. Which "new" law did Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad bring with him? He just revived the Islam, nothing more. He is just the Shari-Nabi, who REVIVED our Holy Prophet´s deen again.

Once he had been asked by a person why he doesn´t forbid smoking tobacco. He said, what Muhammad Mustafa (saw) didn´t forbid, so I can´t.

Muhammad Mustafa forbid to drink Alcohol, did Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad allow it?

lol, you people sell Alcohol under the table and cry like morons that they are non-muslims.

[Silly_Billy]

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@PakistaniAbroad

it’s sad.. minority sects will always get their asses kicked till they unite against the Sunni ghunda geeree..

It as a Shia Muslim Prime Minister - Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, whose government led the charge against the Ahmadi’s, and declared them non-Muslim under the second amendment to the constitution in 1974. Even to this day the People’s Party counts that amongst his great achievments when eulogising him.

P.S. It is the amendement itself that refers to them as persons of Quadiani group or the Lahori group (who call themselves Ahmadis)

[farikhta]

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http://www.irshad.org/exposed/think.php

[ahmadjee]

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It is heart wrenching to see some of the responses here but may Allah forgive everyone of us for our trespasses and forgive us our sins.

Inalillahe wa inaillhe rajayooN

My bhabhi's khallo is from Mandy Bahauddin and she told me this morning that some 6 of the people that died were from her baradari with one being her second cousin.

[SalmanNY]

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@Diva4U

SalmanNY :- In regards to your comments above ^
Ahmadis do not call muslims - “non-muslims” as stated above. Listen below for an explanation.

http://www.askislam.com/Religions_and_Beliefs/Islam/Sects/Answer_263.html

So according to Mr. Tahir. we are non Ahemdi- muslims but are kaffir at the same time ? And then he has the nerve to say that Kaffir hona aur non-ahemdi muslim hona are totally different things ? What a load of crap.

See when I tell you that you do not know nothing about your own religion you get offended. Here is what your own religion teaches you.
http://www.irshad.org/img/bullet-sq.gif Muslims declared Kafir (Non-Muslim)
http://www.irshad.org/img/bullet-sq.gif Marriage with non-Qadiani declared Haram
http://www.irshad.org/img/bullet-sq.gif Praying Behind Muslims declared Haram
http://www.irshad.org/img/bullet-sq.gif Funeral Prayer for Muslims declared Haram

[SalmanNY]

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@ahmadjee

It is heart wrenching to see some of the responses here but may Allah forgive everyone of us for our trespasses and forgive us our sins.

Inalillahe wa inaillhe rajayooN

My bhabhi’s khallo is from Mandy Bahauddin and she told me this morning that some 6 of the people that died were from her baradari with one being her second cousin.

May Allah have mercy on their poor souls.

[sweetpac]

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I dont know how some of you people think you have the right to call someone a non-muslim, just because it was declared in the constitution of Pakistan doesn't make it true. All the Ahmadi's that I know, have the same Kalma, same namaz and same Qur'an.
And as far as Im concerned the people who were killed were reading namaz, during the first Juma in Ramadhan... I am sure they are going straight to heaven.
May Allah help there families during this devastating time, Ameen.

[Numb]

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@SalmanNY

So according to Mr. Tahir. we are non Ahemdi- muslims but are kaffir at the same time ? And then he has the nerve to say that Kaffir hona aur non-ahemdi muslim hona are totally different things ? What a load of crap.

See when I tell you that you do not know nothing about your own religion you get offended. Here is what your own religion teaches you.
http://www.irshad.org/img/bullet-sq.gif Muslims declared Kafir (Non-Muslim)
http://www.irshad.org/img/bullet-sq.gif Marriage with non-Qadiani declared Haram
http://www.irshad.org/img/bullet-sq.gif Praying Behind Muslims declared Haram
http://www.irshad.org/img/bullet-sq.gif Funeral Prayer for Muslims declared Haram

Which Mullah launched this page? We never declared Non-Ahamdies to Non-Muslims!!!

Kaffir don´t believe in GOD. Muslims do! With Non-Ahmadi hona, he didn´t mean that you aren´t Muslims, but he says that you don´t believe that the Promised has already appeared who was Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad didn´t haram marrying with Non-Ahmadies, but he doesn´t recommend! Why? Because the beliefs of both sides are different what can cause problems in the relationship. And as you see it does. Ahmadies, Sunnis or Schia´s can´t even sit and talk about their faiths/differences without arguing, so how should a marriage work?

Religion doesn´t mean to attack someone
Religion means > To have a dialogue

[antiobl]

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^^ It is so sad that MAToos bring out more hate and bigotry just to support cold blood murders. These beardo weirdos have stones in their chest and no hearts. They justify killing of innocent people, whose only crime was to be in the mosque, to pray.

I am also angry at the attitude of Pakistanis for being sitting ducks. We all know mosques and other places of worship are the target of Arrabob and other Wahabibi MAToos. Why the heck we ignore to post 15 people around the mosque armed with simply walkie talkies. These 15 people can always pray later. Why the heck we allow these terrorists to treat us like hunted animals. Why?

Oh Allah I ask for your help to destroy these terrorists, Oh Allah I ask for your help to pack these beardos and ship them straight to hell. Oh Allah why these MAToos take your name while killing and shooting those who make sajda in front you?

[deedawar]

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@PakistaniAbroad

it’s sad.. minority sects will always get their asses kicked till they unite against the Sunni ghunda geeree..

Its not sunni or Shia or whatever.

Killers have no religeon.

We do not know who killed these people.