Can anyone please give a list of those enemies of Islam that were assasinated on the orders of our blessed Prophet(pbuh)
I know of the following
Aburafi killed by ansars
a lewd woman by the name of asma
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what are you talking about
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And while you're at it, please write a sentence or two on why they were assasinated. It'll just show a more complete picture.
I'd write down myself..but i cant remember the names right now.
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What is the moral of this thread really?
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Thats interesting religiously sanctioned assasinations. I am sure there was a valid reason for the killings. It just sounds strange.
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The two names that I remember are
Kaab ibn al Ashraf, he was writing poetry against the Muslims and the Prophet and was rallying the Quraish against the Muslims
Khalid bin Sufyan, he was amassing an army to attack the Muslims
ie. assassinate the leader and avoid the bloodshed later
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I don't get the amana ordeal. I thought for lewd women, you're supposed to council, them etc? Why a death penalty? Was she an adulteress?
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Hmm...that would make all of Pakistan's entertainment industry and their sponsors as well as followers eligible...
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From one of my earlier posts
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^ thankyou brother bao bihari
as for those who are looking for justifications for these assasinations there is none required, the Prophet(pbuh) ordered it that is all we need to know
lewd woman asma composed poetry criticizing the Prophet(pbuh)
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Allah(swt) wipes out entire cities by natural disasters at times as punishment ...why should we be surprised if his Prophet(pbuh) assasinates someone?
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Decrates would have been really glad to meet you. I admire your rationalyzing abilities and not only that I am extreamly thankful for not having any of it.
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And i am extemely grateful that I dont take advice from the likes of Descrates
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On that note I recogonize that we are supporters of opposite theories that are bound to clash.. Hence getting in an argument would be waste of both of our times. So Peace. :)
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^ I agree
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So then she wasn't executed for being lewd; she was executed for the anti-Rasul (SAW) poetry that she wrote.
Can we clarify that? Because this is how so many misconceptions start up and how dogma is propogated. If someone had read this, they might get the impression that its okay for the State to execute women based on their clothing choices.
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^ it wud require someone to be really silly to think that an assasination was carried out for clothing choice....
if u dont really try to complicate matters, u will be amazed to see how simple they r to understand by using common sense....
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Can we clarify that? Because this is how so many misconceptions start up and how dogma is propogated. If someone had read this, they might get the impression that its okay for the State to execute women based on their clothing choices.
I meant indecent by lewd, I am not advocating that the state should have authority assasinate anyone for the way they dress.
Reason I started this thread is that muslims esp. in the west get really defensive when anything like that is mentioned (fate of banu quraizra is another one) and try to be very politically correct. This is a self-defeating strategy.We should be proud of whatever the Prophet(pbuh) did,whether it was during the time of peace or war.
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No, its not being politically correct. Its being accurate. You're still saying that she got executed for being indecent. That can be taken to be many things. And writing hate poetry and inciting war mongers is not what comes to mind when one says "indecent woman" or "lewd woman". I think that's common sense.
And its necessary to be accurate. Not because we're ashamed or not ashamed of the Prophet. But because you don't want to set a precedent for wrongful thoughts or impressions of the Prophet and execution of Islamic law.
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No, its not being politically correct. Its being accurate. You're still saying that she got executed for being indecent. That can be taken to be many things
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My command of english is far from perfect so forgive my choice of words
as long as you agree with what i am trying to convey we have no dispute
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And its necessary to be accurate. Not because we're ashamed or not ashamed of the Prophet. But because you don't want to set a precedent for wrongful thoughts or impressions of the Prophet and execution of Islamic law
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I doubt if this incident has ever been used to kill immoral women