Asif Iqbal on England-Pakistan series

BINGO! He hit the nail on the head. Precisely my thoughts! I definitely agree with him that we need Shahid Afridi(For explosive start) and Inzamam-ul-Haq(Middle Order Backbone) back in the squad. Afridi’s avg is around 20-21, I believe but his striking rate is over 100. Plus, he was a better player under coaching of Javed Miandad. In the process of rebuilding, our openers failed to acheieve 15 overs restricted opportunities. It’s 'about time, Team management work on this aspect. Bowling options is available. Spirit of youngsters is overwhelming.

England series identifies core team for the future

LONDON: Pakistan lost the Lord’s one-dayer to England and with it the series, but it was a defeat in which there was no shame. I must say that I was rather pleasantly surprised by the capabilities of this young Pakistani squad and the speed with which they adapted to English conditions even though some of them would have been playing in England for the first time.

At 154 for six, it appeared as if the game would be won but luck and some umpiring decision did not go Pakistan’s way. Pressing a winning advantage home is part of the learning curve for any young side and the experience of Lords will not be lost on this eager bunch of players.

I think the biggest plus point that this new side has made clear is the obvious spirit, enthusiasm and commitment :jhanda: that it brings to its cricket. The fall of each wicket brings a joyous huddle, :wink: everyone is cheering the other on and there is a sense of all for one and one for all which has seldom been so unmistakably clear with Pakistani sides. Also with youth, has come a standard of ground fielding which is perhaps the best that any Pakistani side has ever put on display, although sadly, :frowning: at Lord’s on Sunday the catching and the throwing at the stumps did not equal the ground fielding even nearly.

Winning cricket matches, whether Tests or ODIs, is about converting the half chances, not allowing three full chances to go abegging. And if any one of four direct throws had hit the stumps, there may have been a very different outcome to the match and the series.

The revamp in the side has not caused any loss in effectiveness in the bowling department, although I still feel that Wasim Akram commands a place in the side. But Shoaib and Sami together constitute the most fearsome pace attack anywhere in the world and although they sometimes go for a few, they are the most lethal weapon in Pakistan’s armour.

The cricket they play is breathtaking and their pace provides for one of the real spectacles that cricket has to offer. One only hopes that they can maintain their fitness and continue to serve Pakistan for a long time to come. The supporting bowling is also of adequate calibre with two excellent seam bowling all-rounders in Azhar and Razzaq and two good all-rounder off-spinners. :smokin:

With Wasim having retired, playing both Razzaq and Azhar in one day games should be the norm rather than the exception, fact that needs to be highlighted keeping in mind that both were brought together in the England series through accident rather than design, Razzaq having been called up from Middlesex to replace the injured Faisal Athar. The presence of two good off-spinners who are reasonable batsmen and excellent fielders to boot, is also a great strength for any one-day team.

Sadly, Pakistan’s batting problems especially at the top of the order do not appear to be any closer to a solution. There was some hope at Old Trafford where the successful run chase was largely due to good contributions coming from the top three in the order but later games showed it to be a false dawn with Pakistan losing four wickets for sixty odd at both Oval and Lord’s.

In both these games the runs came from the experienced members of the side, **Youhana at the Oval and Younis and Razzaq at Lords and the repeated failure of the top order must raise a very serious case for the return of Inzamam. Imran Nazir has still not got over his problem of shot selection and now, after four years at the highest level of the game, there must be some concern over how this flaw in his game is to be corrected.

True, that his presence in the side lifts the fielding by a good few notches but at international level, one cannot select people for their fielding alone. He has failed to inspire any confidence at the top of the order and his future role would perhaps need to be examined closely. Compared to Imran, Shahid Afridi is perhaps a better choice for even though he has the same problem with consistency, he too is an excellent fielder and in addition gives his captain a valuable bowling option.

Yasir Hameed, who played this series at the one down position, appears a technically correct batsman and although he did not score many runs, he deserves to be persevered with.** This position has been a problem in the Pakistan line up for the past almost half a dozen years and although it does not appear to be any closer to a solution now than at any time in the past, it will need a technically sound player to fill the role even if ambitions are scaled down from a search for the brilliant to one where one settles for reliability. Yasir has the technical strength and hopefully, continued exposure should produce reliability.

It would appear that the core of the team has been identified and this should be persevered with in the foreseeable future without chopping and changing unless absolutely necessary through complete lack of form or injury or unavailability. A team develops only by playing together which over a period of time reveals everyone’s roles, what is expected of everyone, and the fellow feeling to give one’s best to make sure that one comes up to the hopes placed in one’s abilities by one’s colleagues.

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The revamp in the side has not caused any loss in effectiveness in the bowling department, although I still feel that Wasim Akram commands a place in the side.
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Yeah thats what I say too.Add Wasim & Inzi and see the difference.

Wasim ok. Inzi usles felow

Why do us Pakistanis contradict ourselve so much.
First we say we want Afridi out of the team and then we say bring him back and then he goes through miserable performance and then we want him out.
Our judgements are more inconsistent then Afridi's batting.

<<Our judgements are more inconsistent then Afridi's batting.>>

Not me. :D

Like I mentioned earlier, Afridi has been a good player under Miandad. In order to have a good sky-high start in the 15 overs, we need a Striker. Mohammad Hafeez is a newbie, young and seems to be settled whereas Imran Nazir's come in the team wasn't that much impressive in the NatWest Challenge as most of us thought. {No offence to Imran Nazir}

Afridi, on the other hand, got an ability to give a blast start for the team. He's best Striker available now. Plus, he's a good fielder and another bowler option for skipper Rashid Latif.

Time is perfect. :)

Why can’t we play without Wasim or Inzi:confused:

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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
Why do us Pakistanis contradict ourselve so much.
First we say we want Afridi out of the team and then we say bring him back and then he goes through miserable performance and then we want him out.
Our judgements are more inconsistent then Afridi's batting.
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*two main reason behind bring Afridi back..............

1) Afridi is only 23 years old and he has tons of experience compare to youngeters like Hafeez & Shoib Malik; He has played well under the coaching of Miandad.

I would not try Afridi has a opener.... probably let him play @ #6 Or #7.

2) Afridi bowling style (leg breaker) is different then Hafeez & Shoaib Malik, something Pakistan team needs anyway.....I think he should be included in the team.

I think PCB should also bring Inzi & Saeed Anwar back.*

I personally want to see Moin back in the team :)

I hope the PCB doesn't make any stupid changes again and lets this team grow. Afridi is history. He's another one of those players who didn't listen to the coach and threw their wicket away every single time, putting the middle order under constant pressure!!

Though maybe if they try him at #6-7 first, that might be ok for a match or too.

PakistaniAngel: but rashid is a good captain :slight_smile:

PT thansk for sharing an interesting article :k:

i think afridi should get one more chance to prove his ability..

by bringing back saeed anwar and inzamaam.. our team would be perfect :k:

I would like to see Inzi back in the team. Afridi, may be not, only if he is serious. I also want to see Kamran Akmal back in the squad. very nice article, thanks for sharin.

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PakistaniAngel: but rashid is a good captain :)
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Javed and Rashid should be blamed for the loss in the NatWest series. We were playing far too many all rounders, Shoaib shouldn't open the bowling and they should bowl with more discipline. Rashid's own form isn't very impressive either. Dropped catches and low scoring.

Javed was a great batsman but he's just taking 10 million and doing nothing! There hasn't been any improvment in the batting and the openers fail to take the advantage of the first 15 overs. What's he teaching the players?!

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I personally want to see Moin back in the team :)
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i agree.. i miss Moin quite a bit.. he was a good wicket keeper and did well batting ant 6-7...

wasim and inzy dont need to be brought back.. their days are over.. they've been playing for the past 10 or so years.. whereas afridi still has got a lot in him and i really think its a shame that international career is going to end at 23..

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Javed and Rashid should be blamed for the loss in the NatWest series. We were playing far too many all rounders, Shoaib shouldn't open the bowling and they should bowl with more discipline. Rashid's own form isn't very impressive either. Dropped catches and low scoring.

Javed was a great batsman but he's just taking 10 million and doing nothing! There hasn't been any improvment in the batting and the openers fail to take the advantage of the first 15 overs. What's he teaching the players?!
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but the team is so young... and for msot of them its their first time playing in England.. i think we should give Javed a bit more support...

i mean even when the seniors come out to play.. their batting is nothing more than average... considering that i think the young pakistani team is doing well.. and at least they won one game... thats pretty good i think..

if shoaib doesnt open the bowling.. who will? razzaq and azhar are better after 10 or so overs... and shoaib has gotten quite a few wickets coming in first..

Asif Iqbal, you da man.

gosh u ppl are so harsh,,,, pakistani angel,, relax man... i think they did pretty good. look at ur team,, its young n still in that developing stage. Give em some time n u,ll see... and sir,, rashid did pretty well behind the stumps. true he dropped a very easy one. but overall,, he was pretty impressive behind the stumps. hes an okay captain n has that attacking mentality which is good... unlike that stupid waqar,, who was too busy stopping fours when wat we needed was wickets. i still wanna kill him for his pathetic show at the worldcup.

now wen ppl say bring saeed back,, i wont agree with it. lets all just admit that although he was a class act wen at his prime,, the guy is gone. Although inzamam i reckon is a great player,,, true he had a really bad patch during the world cup,, but we all know wat hes capable of, we need him back.

and those who r trying to compare shoaib malik with afridi,, please,, wake up. ur comparing a juicy chicken tikka with 3 days old daal.

wasim i reckon was still very impressive n by far the bset player during the worldcup... i wudv loved him to be in the team, but hes history now.

Afridi should only be brought back if hes willing to learn. which i doubt... he might be good against the sub continent teams,,, but bring mcgrath n he can send him back to the pavillion with his eyes closed.

Afridi has no place at number 6 7. we have enough batsmen down the order... if hes willing to learn,,, he cud be given another chance as the opener.

wat pakistan badly needs is a reliable top order... specially openers.

bring back inzi,,, yoyo n younis r good. n then we have a pretty good middle n lower order and bowlers are doing pretty good,,, if only shoaib cud just shut up n get on with the job, i reckon we have a bowler whos a class act.

Why do we need Afridi back?? but even more importantly who should we drop to bring back Afridi. His batting has too many technical flaws and why waste time fixing them if we have more quality players. Imran Farhat is an aggressive opening batsman who has been doing great in the domestic circuit. Plus Imran Farhat is also a left hander. Having a left hand and right hand combination gives a little flair to the opening pair and bowlers find it a little hard to adjust to it. I think its about time Imran Farhat gets a chance.

If we really need to bring someone back it's Saqlain Mushtaq. **Someone in another post was talking about Shoiab's ODI' bowling average was 21 right on par with some greats like Murali and McGrath. Well interestingly we forgot our own player. **Saqlain's bowling average is not just there its better then Murali's. He is a wicket taking bowler and he is fairly young. Plus he is sort of handy with the bat. He may not be able to hit out but he can hold one end and get a partnership going.

Inzi and Saeed Anwar are both good batsmen but pathetic fielders and runners. If we have started the rebuilding process we dont need them. We already have Yousaf Youhana who is a quality player, good fielder but his running between wickets sucks. Now if we put Inzi and Saeed back we will have two poor fielders and three bad runners. Unless Inzi and Saeed can prove their fitness I dont think we should take them back in the team.

One thing is for sure, we are playing way to many all rounders in our team just to provide cover to our batting line up. I think out of the four all rounders we have in the team, only three should play and we should bring in one more bowler. Hafeez is fine where he is and Shoaib Malik has been in good form over the past few months. That leaves Azhar and Razzaq to fight for one spot. I personally would go for Razzaq, though he is not in great from but I think he is far more talented then Azhar. This will also keep the all rounder's on their toes as they would know that someone is sitting out to grab their place in the team if they perform badly.

We can either bring in Saqlain, Danish Kaneria or Umar Gul depending on the condition of the pitch along with the current form of each player.
Saqi and Danish are both attacking spinners and Umar Gul bowls a nice line and could be used to open the bowling along with Sami and Shoaib can come first change. We definatley need one more strike bowler in the team otherwise it puts too mcuh pressure on Sami and Shoaib Akhtar.

and i forgot to add....

can u please give javed a break! the guys trying hard,, n the boys listen to him.... u cant just expect miracles to happen in a day. give it time,, i,m sure he,ll deliver. He looked very committed. and he has a great cricketing brain.

first time i actually agree with kaka..

but i dont think we need inzy back.. he did nothing thruout the WC.. hes pretty much gone to...

i guess if they gave him a proper position he might be able to do somehting.. but we really need to give the youngsters a go.. all these oldies have had their days of glory.. and therefore its time to move on.. just like wasim and waqar... i think inzy needs to take the backseat...

i reckon as long as we have youhana in the middle there.. things are good.. the top order really needs to stick.. for the past 5 years our top order has been the one to crumble and then the load is put on batsmen 5 and below..

yeah and i reckon javed rocks... hes good for the team... shoaib just needs a reality check.. i think fame is getting to him just like it did to afridi when he came down to OZ the first time round..

Re: Asif Iqbal on England-Pakistan series

I agree! Afridi’s batting average in ODI’s is almost 24. Which is not too bad compared to the current 2 openers we have right now, who have about the same average as him. Great article PT, thanks for sharing :k: