Articles by Amar Jaleel on why Partition shouldnt have happened

Were Muslims ever persecuted in India prior to 1947 ? Werent minority Muslims ruling majority Hindus. Still Muslims wanted to separate and form a new country where they are in a majority.

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/dmag/dmag6.htm

Inquisitive minds

By Amar Jaleel

Intolerance breeds hatred; and our society seems to be infected with this disease.

I have often been asked: why do I, at times, sound apologetic? Why do I feel constrained to furnish a preamble in some of my discussions? Before I share with you the queries of the inquisitive persons born after 1947, I must first answer the two questions.

We are subjects of an intolerant society. Intolerance inflicts when a person or a society is either empty or is infected from within. Intolerance is a maddening sickness. It breeds hatred. Like an individual who suffers from an incurable malady and becomes overtly sensitive and irritable, a society suffering from intolerance turns out to be violently reactionary and hostile. Sanity departs. Rational thinking takes cover. People shy away from academic discussions on the subjects and issues that are branded forbidden. A healthy society like a healthy mind turns out to be an abode for tolerance, piety and intellectual growth. In a healthy society people listen to each other’s point of view, and weigh opinions patiently. They respect one another’s right to dissent. Therefore, I deem it essential to furnish a preamble before sharing certain subjects with my friends.

Now, let us take up the issue of an inquisitive mind. What characteristics does it signify in a person? Why does a person born with an inquisitive mind remains restless till he explores an issue that bothers him? He seeks answers to the questions left unanswered. Right from his childhood he grows up with often repeated ‘why,’ ‘why not,’ and ‘how.’ He won’t digest it instantly if you told him that all men are born equal. He won’t accept the maxim. He would assert that all men are not born equal. How can you prove that a child born into a poor family, and a child born into a rich family are born equal? People born with inquisitive minds strive to know. They probe into enigmatic issues. They refuse to accept anything on its face value.

In today’s discourse we would dispassionately discuss queries of the inquisitive minds that wonder what prompted our leaders to plead for an independent country for the Muslims of the subcontinent. Were the Muslims persecuted in undivided India? Were they segregated? Were they denied equal opportunities? Were they hindered in offering prayers? Were they restrained from celebrating Eid and other festivals? Were they debarred from their right to own properties? Were they deprived of freedom of expression? To furnish an answer, we are required to look at India first, not necessarily prehistoric and Vedic India.

India was a huge country and was deservedly regarded a subcontinent. When Mohammed bin Qasim subjugated Sindh in 712AD, India was overwhelmingly populated by the Hindus. Mohammed bin Qasim’s was a brief stint in power. With the establishment of sultanat of Ghazni in 962AD commenced a series of Muslim conquests, invasions and attacks on India under the Ghaznavis, Ghoris, Khiljis, Tarkhans, Lodhis, and finally the great Mughals. From accession of Babar in 1526 till death of Aurangzeb in 1707AD, Mughals held sway over most of India. Except for Mahmood Ghaznavi and Aurangzeb most of the Muslim rulers of India were liberals. They did not interfere with religious and cultural customs and traditions of the Indian people. The Hindus and the Muslims did not engage themselves in killing orgies like the ones the world watched with awe in 1947-48.

During the 600-year Muslim rule over India, the Muslim population registered a study growth. It was heterogeneous Muslim population. Predominant among them were the solders and the mercenaries from Central Asian states, Iran, Afghanistan, Arab principalities, Africa, and Turkey. The others were the local converts. They lived in harmony with the Hindus. The two communities respected each other’s faith. However, slaughtering cow on Eidul Azha and other festivals by the Muslims was an outrageous ritual for the Hindus. It infuriated them. The conflict was so deep rooted that even after 200 years of ouster of the Muslims from power by the British it was reflected in the two-nation theory, the basis for the creation of Pakistan. Muslim leaders repeatedly pleaded with the British that the Hindus worshipped cow, whereas the Muslims ate cow. Therefore, the Hindus and the Muslims were two different nations, and they could never live together. Thus, India was partitioned in 1947 between the Hindus and the Muslims. One wonders, had the Hindus not revolted against slaughtering of cows, Pakistan might not have come into existence!

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Now let us examine the inquisitive minds’ queries. Were the Muslims segregated? Were the Muslims persecuted and denied equal opportunities? The answer is that till the death of Aurangzeb in 1707AD, the Muslims were the rulers of India. Who could have segregated and persecuted them? The British wrested power from the Muslims and became the sovereign rulers of India. The question of persecution of the Muslims is presumptive. At present, more Muslims live in India than in Pakistan.

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The communal riots in the wake of partition of India in 1947 constitute the bleeding chapter in the history of mankind. Millions of Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs were butchered to death. No query from an inquisitive mind can bring them back to life.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

here you go:

major communal riots in india:

http://www.hindunet.org/alt_hindu/1994_2/msg00096.html

great article on the same.

riots in india between 1920 and 1940

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

Weather they were persecuted before doesnt matter, Pakistan was formed on a believe and an ideology that we muslim need a place where we can practice our life and set of beliefs in peace.

Ever since india has stopped at nothing to disrupt that peace, both internally (gujrat anyone ?) and externally (kashmire and all the wars with pakistan)

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

nicolas after the hammering ravage and maniac just gave u, i would suggest u think 2wice b4 going on ur hate campaign. i thought u stopped doing it, but no u r coming back with more. how absurd.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

can you explain why shia-sunni fighting in iraq? .

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

if you tell me how its relevant here.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

south asia is not that bad considering the diversity of relgen and ethnicity
it could have been worse.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

well thats your take on it. others view periodic, communal bloodbaths, where entire communities launch into mass bloodfests as indication that the communities might victimise each other if either came into power. as it stands that view won out.

this thread asked if there was religious persecution prior to partition. I've posted links that answer that question.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

there were preocecution even before islam came and there were conflicts
there will be conflicts within pakistan and india over sects and relgen.
it will never go away.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

theres a difference between criminal violence by shady outlaws and full on inter communal strife. the way the ordinary man indulged in periodic bloodbaths in pre partition india and still does in what remains of it, that I just dont see anywhere reflected anywhere in the world except africa. rwanda comes to mind. the presence of these riots since the 1700s and repeated occurrences of them just suggest to me that the communities could not live in peace together, and would always remain divided along religious lines.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

^pre-partition level of religious violence was miniscule, especially when given the context of per capita and territorial size....villages, towns, and urban areas were all religiously inter-mixed. it wasn't until after partition that muslims and hindus/sikhs separated into their own communities (i'm referring to India, obviously Pakistan was separate), and that separation remains relatively intact in India today, causing people to assume that religious stratification and separation has been standard practice throught Indian history - and that is simply false. some people just refuse to accept that the two-nation theory was a means of political mobilization first, and a humanitarian effort a distant second or third.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

some people state their opinions as fact. read the links i've posted above from university websites, the last by an indian author who is anti partition. no way was the stratification and seperation miniscule.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

I have been mulling over this theme over the last week while travelling around in South India. Here, I have met a number of Muslims, and in their patchy Hindi and English, they have made it clear that they are completely at home, and get on very well with their Hindu and Christian neighbours.

This morning, a Sunday, I was on a boat in the back waters of Kerala, and could see the minarets of a mosque among the coconut palms. But the sound I heard was the sound of bells from a nearby church. A day earlier, our group drove past a large Hindu congregation. And just in case some readers feel sorry for the Muslims of Kerala, let me remind them that the oldest continuous community of Muslims in the subcontinent live right here.

They have integrated seamlessly into the fabric of the area, and do not see their faith as an issue. Their Hindu and Christian neighbours visit them at Eid, just as they celebrate Holi and Christmas with their friends.

How can these different communities be separated? They speak the same language, are ethnically of the same stock, and while orthodox Hindus may be vegetarians, they cook in the identical, delicious Kerala style. Until you ask them directly, it is impossible to tell who is Hindu, who is Muslim and who is Christian

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/20050108.htm

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

anecdotal evidence is exactly that. anecdotal. i've quoted facts and figures that show throughout indian history, riots along religious lines have been a recurring feature.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

India’s “great cycle of history,” as Professor Hugh Tinker put it, entails repeating themes that continue to add complexity and diversity to the cultural matrix. Throughout its history, India has undergone innumerable episodes involving military conquests and integration, cultural infusion and assimilation, political unification and fragmentation, religious toleration and conflict, and communal harmony and violence. A few other regions in the world also can claim such a vast and differentiated historical experience, but Indian civilization seems to have endured the trials of time the longest

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

yeah well not anymore. pakistan is here to stay.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

your identity will always tied to india eventhough history starts with
bin quasim.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

yeah, and in a broader sense to Hazrat Adam. who cares.

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

te

Isnt there a saying in Pakistan

“Pakistan was created when the first Hindu in India was converted to Islam”

Re: Were Muslims ever persecuted in India?

the foundation was laid certainly