Recently I was traveling thru Eastern Europe. In the train compartment there were two European ladies, we were chatting, cracking jokes in a common native language. A Chinese became our fourth co passenger.
Neither I, nor those two ladies were interested in each other’s origin, religion, but this Chinese knew no common language, just two or three words of English, and his first question to me was if I was a Muslim.
He was a Muslim.
Why so much consciousness? The same I have met everywhere. No one but only Muslims are interested to know your religion.
(Appr 400km we traveled all together, we helped this Chinese guy to arrange food, water etc, as he was zero in communication. We helped him not because he belonged to some particular religion, but just because he was a co-passenger.)
It's no more of an exaggeration than a statement such as, No one but only Muslims are interested to know your religion. Unless our good friend has met each of the 1.6 billion Muslims, personally, on this large planet, than i doubt such a comment is accurate.
Everyone is interested in other people's religions... doesn't matter if you are Muslim or atheist.
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*Originally posted by yahudi: *
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Why so much consciousness? The same I have met everywhere. No one but only Muslims are interested to know your religion....
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may be he needed help regarding his obligations? i.e. direction of Kaaba? why do you have to take it and generalize it?
Yahudi, the dude could be just trying to strike up a conversation. No need to be so paranoid. And there is nuthing wrong being concious of one's religion. He wasnt trying to convert you was he.
Its because Allah mentions in Quran that believers and non-believers are not at the same level.
Reasons:
If you see from a logical perspective, who would be more dear to the Creator? The one who is loyal to him or the one who is not? Its cetainly the former. Thats why the attitude of Muslims towards another Muslims would be much different.
Islam declares brotherhood between Muslims. There are protocols (e.g. greeting a Muslim by saying Assalam U Alaikum) towards fellow Muslims. A whole list of etiquettes has been mentioned in Holy Quran and Sunnah.
For these couple of reasons (and many others), a Muslim would be naturally interested to know if the person he is meeting also belongs to his faith or not. He would like to be more respectful to a Muslim if he finds one.
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*Originally posted by yahudi: *
Recently I was traveling thru Eastern Europe. In the train compartment there were two European ladies, we were chatting, cracking jokes in a common native language. A Chinese became our fourth co passenger.
Neither I, nor those two ladies were interested in each other’s origin, religion, but this Chinese knew no common language, just two or three words of English, and his first question to me was if I was a Muslim.
He was a Muslim.
Why so much consciousness? The same I have met everywhere. No one but only Muslims are interested to know your religion.
(Appr 400km we traveled all together, we helped this Chinese guy to arrange food, water etc, as he was zero in communication. We helped him not because he belonged to some particular religion, but just because he was a co-passenger.)
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*Originally posted by ramyssysIX: *
He would like to be more respectful to a Muslim if he finds one.
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That may be your view..I dont think thats teh case, that may be one common thing..i.e. when a brit finds anothe rbrit in US they will chat and all. its just a common link..its a matter of that rather than respect.
I would treat a person the same way regardless of faith, i may have one thing more in common with a muslim guy, but then the bahai may be a soccer fan.
its the same thing as someone looking at u, wondering if u are desi and then asking where u are from...they just want to know..find a common link
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*Originally posted by yahudi: *
Recently I was traveling thru Eastern Europe. In the train compartment there were two European ladies, we were chatting, cracking jokes in a common native language. A Chinese became our fourth co passenger.
Neither I, nor those two ladies were interested in each other’s origin, religion, but this Chinese knew no common language, just two or three words of English, and his first question to me was if I was a Muslim.
He was a Muslim.
Why so much consciousness? The same I have met everywhere. No one but only Muslims are interested to know your religion.
(Appr 400km we traveled all together, we helped this Chinese guy to arrange food, water etc, as he was zero in communication. We helped him not because he belonged to some particular religion, but just because he was a co-passenger.)
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Yahudi,
There is a saying.
Never talk politics or religion if you want to make a friend.
But if one follows that saying..IMHO one misses the joy of learning to appreciate and respect those that differ from ones ownself and the enlightenment that listening and understanding might bring.
So what ? what if someone is serious and conscious about his religious identiy ? Are you jelous or does it bother you ? He won't bite you if you told him you were a hindu.
It is not my personal view. This is what Quran teaches when it asks: “Can the believers and the non-believers by the equal?” (I don’t have the the exact surah and verse, but I will search and let you know).
For a Muslim, the criterion for everything is his love for Allah and his Prophet :saw:. As I mentioned in my previous post, a believer is more dear to Allah. So, a Muslim will naturally have more liking for another Muslim. Simple logic!
Why so much consciousness? The same I have met everywhere. No one but only Muslims are interested to know your religion.
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I'm intrested, what caused you to start a thread on what I feel is such a trivial question, and also the tone you use in your statement is as if this chinese man and (only)muslims who are interested to know your religion, are guilty of something.
I'd like to believe that most people here who call themselves muslim are really not. They may think they are but it ain't so. There are some exceptions. The criteria is simple. Anyone who hides behind the "you cannot question Allah's sayings" or koran's mandates - however illogical or misunderstood or misplaced they me be for current state of the world - cannot be a muslim. What is a man's brain for if you're not to think
The criteria is simple. Anyone who hides behind the "you cannot question Allah's sayings" or koran's mandates - however illogical or misunderstood or misplaced they me be for current state of the world - cannot be a muslim. What is a man's brain for if you're not to think
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Ha Ha!! you spoke my mind!! Three cheers to you!
I dunno, if it makes you a better Moslem, but atleast it helps you develope into a rational human being.
Did I give that kind of impression in my replies? I tried not to.
Sure, you should use your brain. But at the same time don't forget that there are people (scholars, Muhaddiseen, Mufassireen), in the present time as well as in the past, who are/were an athourity in this field of learning. They have spent there lives researching and compiling information on Quran, Hadith and Fiqh. The four Imams are a perfect example of this. They are no less than any Einstein of Physics. Just lauding your intellect and ignoring them totally does not sound like a proper thing. *Does it? *
Quoting from Quran, Hadith or any of these people is not hiding behind covers. The first one is beyond question, since it is the basic element of faith. Their may be difference in interpretation, but not in the actual text itself. The rest deserves to be quoted and followed because it has been collected and compiled after years of perspiration and well devised methodology. If you don't agree with them then you have to come back with solid counter arguments.
Your criticism sounds to me like some high school graduate who stands up and questions the work of some nuclear physicist just because he just doesn't like it. I might be wrong but this is the impression I got from your post.
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I'd like to believe that most people here who call themselves muslim are really not. They may think they are but it ain't so. There are some exceptions. The criteria is simple. Anyone who hides behind the "you cannot question Allah's sayings" or koran's mandates - however illogical or misunderstood or misplaced they me be for current state of the world - cannot be a muslim. What is a man's brain for if you're not to think
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Your criticism sounds to me like some high school graduate who stands up and questions the work of some nuclear physicist just because he just doesn't like it. **I might be wrong* but this is the impression I got from your post.
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Who wouldnt one get that impression.? Ye bhi koye poochnaye ki baat haye.? Its there and its serving its purpose.. So yea Tommy go on you were saying......