Indeed we are.
condition applies:
see my sign.\/
You (Muslims) are the best nation ever raised among the mankind: (because) you
advocate righteousness and FORBID EVIL, and you believe in (one) GOD (ALLAH).
(Sura: Alay-Imran; Ayat:110)
**Sitaaron Pay Jo Daltay Hain Kamand!**
Shaheen=An Eagle or A Flacon!
How come people come up with the idea that Shaheen is a "gal"????
heh, you know, if another real prophet does come, I swear you guys would kill him for heresy.
Xtreme, superior to who? Sunnis or Wahabis? Please elaborate. Or are you implying that Muslims are just superior for no reason, or superior in dullness.
Your theory is very vague and obscure. Try to narrow it down a little.
You (Muslims) are the best nation ever raised among the mankind: (because) you
advocate righteousness and FORBID EVIL, and you believe in (one) GOD (ALLAH).
(Sura: Alay-Imran; Ayat:110)
Allah SWT has spoken. We hear and we obey.
NYA, My theory is neither vague, nor obscure. It is just a statement of the facts as we know them today. A general kind of superiority which requires no explanation becuase of the very nature of it's superiority.
Muslims superior, which one. Ok lets take an example of Iran Iraq war, who were superiors, Irani muslims or Iraqi Muslims or both were superior and were fighting for bigger superiority. Lets take an example of a muslim killing another muslims while he is offering prayer in the Mosque. Or may be a muslims who plants a bomb to kill other muslims/human.
So, who are the Inferiors??????????
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johnD and NYA(with his usual insults) :
I think what extreme means is that you will be superior if you follow Islam the way it should be followed. Iran, Iraq, SA are not good examples to follow or look up to.
zman,
at no point does xtreme mention "the way it should be followed". He just says Muslims are superior.
Which means that non-Muslims are inferior to Muslims.
Equality. bah.
Xtreme, but here you are quoting a book that is just followed by Muslim alone. Why should that be the basis for your general statement? How is that different than the superiority believed by the KKK? What stops me from saying that Muslims are inferior in every sense of the word? That is to follow the same rhetoric as you seem to be advocating?
Yes we are the best nation!
You are the best nation which has been raised for the guidance of mankind. You enjoin good, forbid evil, and believe in Allah. (Âl-'Imrân: 110)
Musalmaan : Beautilful reference provided from The Glorious Quran.
How could you expect individuals, who do not believe in the Quran to believe it, cause the only thing non-believers will do is to laugh at this statement.
Allah knows best.
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I think what extreme means is that you will be superior if you follow Islam the way it should be followed. Iran, Iraq, SA are not good examples to follow or look up to.
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Can you please point out any good example in the present day world?
Oh! by the way, which Islam you are guys talking about? The Islam which Holy Prophet introduced to the mankind or the Islam which Serkari Mullah implemented on the mankind?
Spreading darkness in the name of Sun. Cropping hatred in the name of Religion. Killing mankind in the name of Allah. Is that how you feel superior?
Compare the Muslims (the superior nation) with any other. Trust me you will not find followers of any another faith in so much misery and agony as Muslims.
Buddhist of today places little emphasis on the concept of God. They very much lacks a well-developed spiritual philosophy. It is an extremely humanistic religion and has found great popularity throughout non-monotheist part of the world. What people find attractive in this religion is its great tolerance, its high moral and ethical standards and its relatively bloodless history.
Do you still think Muslims are superior?
Nay! its Islam which is superior.
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** They very much lacks a well-developed spiritual philosophy. **
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Say what? Are you kidding me? No, really - do you actually believe this, through study, or is this what someone just told you?
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Zalim:
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Do you still think Muslims are superior?
Nay! its Islam which is superior.
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So you agree with me then. If Islam is superior, then obviously only a muslim can follow Islam, thereby making him/her superior.
May Allah grant this wisdom to all his subjects.
astrovan:, the concept of spirituality which Judaism introduced is much superior than one found in Buddhism. Talking about Islam, it gave a more refined and advance picture to spirituality. In this respect I said, Buddhism lacks such spiritual concept as found in monotheist ideologies. (anyway this is just to give an example and not a topic to discuss over here)
xtreme:, WRONG! you claim, Muslims are superior. No, Muslims are not superior, followers of Islam are. Try to understand what I am saying.
- Muslims don’t follow Islam, they follow their parents, their environment, their madarsa, their deeni-dersgahain, their mullah and not to mention their own hatred-filled web-sites.
- While the follower of Islam only follow Islam and seek guidance from Allah. They always seek spiritual aspects of Islam.
thank you.
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*The concept of spirituality which Judaism introduced is much superior than one found in Buddhism. *
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Now I know you're kidding.
Judaism - Mess with God, and He'll send down ten plagues, kill your first-born, and overall, make life miserable (just ask Job). No wait, Job didn't actually mess with God, his life was miserable because of God.
Buddhism - find inner poice and bliss through meditation and self-realization.
The literal meaning of the Arabic word Muslim is "submission of will", i.e. to the will of Allah the Almighty, and the word Islam means “submission to the will of ALLAH”. That makes Muslims and follower of Islam same entity. So Muslims are still the best nation on the Earth, by virtue of the following words of ALLAH (SWT):
You are the best nation which has been raised for the guidance of mankind. You enjoin good, forbid evil, and believe in Allah. (Âl-'Imrân: 110)
do you know what spirituality is?
mind you one thing, meditation and self-realization is not the definition of spirituality.
Just to give you an idea about spirituality. For example, Buddhist don’t believe in God. But despite the denial of God, deep within their hearts seems to be lurking a desire to worship something. The same unquenchable innate thirst for God etched deep upon the human soul urges them to worship HIM, or something, if not HIM. So it is to fill this gap that the Buddhist worship the Buddha without formally recognizing him to be a god.
This concept of God and its association with human soul is the named as spirituality.
Got my point?
PS: we are talking about MUSLIMS being superior and not Job and Jacob.
** spirituality **
- sensitivity or attachment to religious values
- the quality or state of being spiritual
where ** spiritual ** is
- of, relating to, consisting of, or affecting the spirit *]of or relating to sacred matters
- concerned with religious values
- concerned with religious values
- related or joined in spirit
Perhaps it is you who doesn’t know what spirituality is.
when self-realization involves searching and seeking the soul (the Self, the Atman), and when meditation is the path one takes to achieve that realization, then, yes, it is spirituality.
Sure. But, do you know what Buddhists do believe in?
You’ve asked a Buddhist this, of course? That there is a missing component to their spirituality, and through ignorance, they instead latch on to something that isn’t God? Or maybe, they have delved deeper into the psyche and the inner recesses of the human soul and Self, and discovered the truth - that there is not God, but there are cosmic rules that govern and shape our lives, and that bliss can be found simply by finding out how we are limited by our ignorance of those rules.
Man, they’ve been feeding you some whack stuff. Buddists don’t worship Buddha anymore that you worship Muhammed. Buddha was a teacher, and his students respect him.
Yes - the Godless can’t be spiritual. Too bad your point is wrong.
PS - you said the spirituality of Judaism was superior to Buddhism. Not me. I was only following up.
Zalim : Are you on Chiva ? Pretty powerful stuff ... hunh
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