Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
Ummmmm…Seriously? We are still on this? I said what i said and i am not about to change my mind.
And dukh na kisi ko diya karo? Is speaking the truth a dukh? I don’t remember condoning her murder. I said she had it coming but never said it was right that she was in danger or should be in danger. I also don’t remember siding with Maulana Whatshisface so i don’t understand peoples ko aag kyun lagi hai. She is not “brave” though IMO and if people want to make her their role model then so be it. :halo:
I mean i got comments from people like “why are you here”, the EXACT equivalent to what goras say to immigrants i.e “get out of my country”. But i don’t care because i have seen my share of these “rah o raast say bhatkay howay” wannabe goras and their apostasy or ignorance doesn’t “burn” or unnerve me.
Anyways. I hope and pray we get the courage to call a spade a spade instead of proving our fake moderation and faux liberal values to our pseudo-gods.
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
You deserved that comment because you refuse to the see the problems we pointed out with Pakistan and religious practices. And if there is no problem with the country you happen to be from, why are you wasting space in a different country that hOlds values you are so against??? I am confused so help me understand. This is simple logic. If you come from a supposedly perfect place, why would you ever leave it? You seem to dislike gora folks so much that anyone you don’t agree with, you compare them to liberal goray. Again, why are you in a country run by goray? you seem to have such a problem with liberalism, it is not even the liberals who are against immigration. In fact, it is not the liberals who have problems with diffetent lifestyles and belief systems. As long as your lifestyle or belief system doesn’t harm another person, you have every right to live however you choose to live. It is pepole like you who think they have the right to judge how someone chooses to live his/her life. I hope you know what the conservative/republican party here in America stands for. They don’t like immigrants, specially immigrants who are again’t freedom. You are their equivalent except you are an even bigger hypocrite because you can’t even stand to live in the country you hurt so much for. Lol
You have stated your opinion, not the truth. You keep saying she had it coming but you forget that she had it coming because of people like you who can’t stand someone being who they want to be because their lifestyle goes against your fragile belief system.
Oh and let’s not forget this statement of yours, “People who malign their country/religion for their careers or for asylums SHOULD always have it coming”. With this statement you have justified her murder. You see her social media shenanigans as her career, we see it as Qandeel being Qandeel.
Now pack your bags and leave the country you seem to hate. I am sure they will be so much happier to have you there since you are just as intolerant as a lot of them?
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
I was in Pakistan when she got killed. Our maasis were the ones who told me the news. They were gleeful, and happy, giving me mubarak baath that she was killed. I looked at them with my mouth hanging open. I was like…You realize this is totally against our religion, right?
They replied telling me this is what happens to girls here who are lewd. I was like, again, do you realize this is against our religion. Maasi who apparently thinks she has a phd in religion tells me that this is actually in the Quran. I was like nope, there is a clear verse on what we should do when faced with a lewd woman, and the verse is addressed to her personal relatives (not to the state or the public) and that they should keep her in their home and talk to her about her behavior. And then there are verses that further state that if a person doesn’t want to change then you let them be on their way and you be on your way.
Simple.
They were like oh…
Then they reluctantly agreed that the approach to such women is not to kill them, because one can always reason with another person. But even then the idea of letting a person go if they don’t want to listen, was not acceptable to them.
So that gives you an idea of what the masses think - and the masses currently account for > 70% of the population.
Those of us who log onto GS represent < 10% of the population of Pakistan which is educated and MAYBE has their head screwed on right.
The topic came up among some of my other relatives and most denounced the killing, but there were a few, EDUCATED people, people who I’ve always respected as being the more level headed folks in our family, who stated that it was CORRECT that she got killed and this is what should happen to these girls. That they need to be killed.
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
I was hoping to hear from someone actually from Pakistan as to what they think apart from what we read on social media which was also reflective of their opinion. Thank you PCG for sharing.
This is the problem what I see. Its not like that Pakistanis are conservative only. If thats the case only it’d be fine. But actually they are not. They are just extremely confused.
They follow the religion who strictly prohibited backbiting or hurting/attacking anyone but they do this job wholeheartedly.
They despised people like Qandeel baloch but dont mind liking her pages or visiting it frequently and watching her videos. And as you said they celebrated her death, something which is a strict no-no in religion even for non-believers.
Same goes for bollywood movies. They take India as their enemy but die for their movies/celebrities.
Two years back while i was visiting Pak I happened to attend a mehndi event and the music started loudly on some indian “item-song” and to my utter surprise all those who are dancing in the middle are young lads possibly in 20s, 30s each with long thick beard much below their chin. I was like seriously?!
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
Thank you for your real time example from Pakistan.
Maasi… an uneducated lady … the lowest class of society… lacking opportunites… holds such opinion… I am not surprised… but when you teach her right verse… she corrected herself…
Educated and level headed folks… are dangerous to Pakistani society… they have opportunities to understand religion by themselves… but they are supporting killing…
I myself encounter my family member… very educated…I argue that killing of Qandeel was unjust… neither our constitution nor religion support killing… there is no such verse exist … in the end.. I convince him… though arguing with family member is always tough but this guy finally realized my point …
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
LMFAO @ people being all butthurt when no one was talking to them in the first place. Please have several seats in addition to copious doses of b**ch please. Talking about intolerance like it means something and then shelling out “pack your bags” like the country belongs to them. #Hypocrites :bizz:
And then talking about "there will be more of “us” and less of “you”. What is “us”? Who are you? Do you even know? You are not muslim, not Pakistani and sure enough not a gora. You are a friggin joke with NO identity of your own. :nook:
Oh and I am HERE and i aint going nowhere and there is nothing your fake ass can do about it. :cb:
And while we are at it she DESERVED it and HAD IT COMING. There b**ch I said it again and there aint nothing you can do about it so calm your fake apostastic ass down.
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
I feel sorry for you, I really am. I just hope you dont get what you deserve for cherishing someone’s death or mocking a grieving father over his daughter’s death or calling a dead person names.
And then using this kinda lingo? You are terribly confused. So I’m glad you opened up here if that makes you feel better.
If you need help, we all are here to hear you out. Nobody will call you names like u just did. So please go ahead and let us know wuts going on with your life??
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
He eerily sounds similar to that bitter_reality who used to post pro-taliban messages in the past before he got banned. We have jamatis on this site, but that guy was in a class for himself.
you are absolutely right, however there seems to be cause she did step out of line big time, if you have time you should go on youtube, they talk of her posting her unclothed images on facebook and chat sessions with someone! so who knows what Family members would do, they should have stopped relations and disowned her rather than murder her.
I know of one man in Seattle area USA, he killed 49 + prostitutes, they call him the Green River Killer! he would strangle and then bury his victims and some dead bodies he would molest sexually, and this happened over a long period, when they caught him the Police/Prosecutors wanted to know where he buried his victims, in exchange for that information he was spared the death penalty!
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
So embarrassed that you have to resort to name calling now? Lol. You can say whatever you want, doesn’t affect me but it sure looks like I hit a nerve. Took you a while to gather your thoughts, eh? Child please..
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
Yawn!!! Are we still on this?
LMAO @ peeps saying i don’t “affect” them yet they still come out of the woodworks to provide their “intellectual” feedback. I know peeps want to pretend as SJWs cuz its the new fad but I said what i said and you’ll just have to deal with it cuz you have no other choice. Now scram.
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
I inspire instead of being inspired. :snooty:
And yes you do need me here cuz otherwise this forum would be overrun by these fake “enlightened” types jinki apni tu koi shanakht nahi hoti yet they want everyone to become as “enlightened” as they are. And then anyone who doesn’t share their modraaan views is branded as taliban. :cb:
Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa
It’s not our fault you have decided to not progress/evolve with the rest of the world. Yet we are the ones with identity crisis? LOL. By the way, looking at your post count, you are the one coming out of the woods to respond to our fake enlightened posts. I and others post here all the time. You apparently give a lot of f***s.
I love a good troll here… Posters like you keep GS very interesting.
