Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? [Spinoff from Qandeel b. thread]

[Southie]

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@shaasavera

I agree with you but she was not a prostitute. Just because she wore western clothes/exposed/danced/was outspoken on her own fb page people think it is ok to denigrate her. It’s ok if Fawad Khan, Imran Abbas, Hamza Ali Abbasi or other Pakistani actors wear skimpy clothes but she is a woman so it matters more to society.

Unfortunately she did not have the high class backing of other Pakistani actors who wear similar dresses/do similar dance but are not categorised as prostitutes.

If prostitutes are at fault so are their customers who zinna with them. Then why punishment is one sided.

before anyone judges her do read this.

The Parable of The Prostitute | Virtual Mosque

Re your first sentence I agree she was not. But I was sample saying even if a person is, what is dishonorable about it.

You make a good point about class being a factor.

[mocpk]

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Oh look mommie fake liberals everywhere!!!

YAWN!!!

Let me break it down for your fake asses:

1. She WAS a prostitute. The proof is in the pudding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwB_FB5MyMs But then again maybe making youtube videos pays a lot and hence she was living this lavish lifestyle. :halo:

2. My dear open minded people. If there is nothing wrong with being a prostitute and if it is merely a means of living a life then please practice what you preach and inspire/teach your daughters to join this noble profession when they grow up and don’t be a “scum”.

3. Ogle at someone? Look down on women? Honey as a moderate “woman” i don’t think i look down on other women. And i ogle at men when i want, doesn’t mean i sell my body to them or twerk and show my cleavage.

4. Had it coming? Of course she HAD it coming. Any one of her benefactors could’ve killed her. She was using other people for her bid for popularity and for getting to Bollywood. People who malign their country/religion for their careers or for asylums SHOULD always have it coming.

5. Father said she was “brave”? DUH!!! of course a chitta unparh gawarh aadmi would call his sonay ki chiriya “brave”. He just lost a goldmine.

Like i said it is indeed sad that she was killed but your feminazi asses are doing way too much. Where were you when she was posting all this stuff? Were you commending her then or were you enjoying her making a fool out of herself? Being sad and hurt at her murder is right but glorifying a mentally unstable attention seekers (to prove you are some sort of proponents of justice) is just plain stupid.

[Southie]

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Someone has been raised well by parents.

[KraziM3]

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@mocpk

Like i said it is indeed sad that she was killed but your feminazi asses are doing way too much. Where were you when she was posting all this stuff? Were you commending her then or were you enjoying her making a fool out of herself?

Exactly what I thought when reading the comments of pseudo-liberals on social media. She was a subject of ridicule one minute and a symbol of female empowerment the next. What nonsense!
It was really unfortunate what happened to her but is she really a poster girl for female empowerment in Pakistan? What was her actual contribution to society?

People are confusing it with western ideals of empowerment which is just as problematic as honour killings as both are born out of moral corruption.

[mocpk]

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@Southie

Someone has been raised well by parents.

Alhumdulillah honey and looking at your comments i hope you practice what you preach and are raising little prosti-tots. Otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Oh wait i just read you using the word “hajam” so i am pretty sure you dunno what Alhumdulillah means. TBH frustrated indians/hindus should focus on their own problems instead of butting in with their half-baked modern views of life.

[mocpk]

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@KraziM3

Exactly what I thought when reading the comments of pseudo-liberals on social media. She was a subject of ridicule one minute and a symbol of female empowerment the next. What nonsense!
It was really unfortunate what happened to her but is she really a poster girl for female empowerment in Pakistan? What was her actual contribution to society?

People are confusing it with western ideals of empowerment which is just as problematic as honour killings as both are born out of moral corruption.

Dont worry most of them are living in their bubble in the west trying to fit in with the goras or are a part of the Karachi burger crowd. Sadly they are neither titar nor batair.

[SID_NY]

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@mocpk

Oh look mommie fake liberals everywhere!!!

YAWN!!!

Let me break it down for your fake asses:

1. She WAS a prostitute. The proof is in the pudding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwB_FB5MyMs But then again maybe making youtube videos pays a lot and hence she was living this lavish lifestyle. :halo:

2. My dear open minded people. If there is nothing wrong with being a prostitute and if it is merely a means of living a life then please practice what you preach and inspire/teach your daughters to join this noble profession when they grow up and don’t be a “scum”.

3. Ogle at someone? Look down on women? Honey as a moderate “woman” i don’t think i look down on other women. And i ogle at men when i want, doesn’t mean i sell my body to them or twerk and show my cleavage.

4. Had it coming? Of course she HAD it coming. Any one of her benefactors could’ve killed her. She was using other people for her bid for popularity and for getting to Bollywood. People who malign their country/religion for their careers or for asylums SHOULD always have it coming.

5. Father said she was “brave”? DUH!!! of course a chitta unparh gawarh aadmi would call his sonay ki chiriya “brave”. He just lost a goldmine.

Like i said it is indeed sad that she was killed but your feminazi asses are doing way too much. Where were you when she was posting all this stuff? Were you commending her then or were you enjoying her making a fool out of herself? Being sad and hurt at her murder is right but glorifying a mentally unstable attention seekers (to prove you are some sort of proponents of justice) is just plain stupid.

Your responses are the mirror image of how most (not all) Pakistanis are and why we are soo much zaleel-o-khwar everywhere.

If somebody asks whats wrong with Pakistan I’ll surely show them your noble post.

Calling her Prostitute again and again can be satisfying for you but its sad for me that even after death you cant find a single good word for her or atleast condemn this death without putting up judgemental and derogatory words for her.

And then challenging her grieved father for calling his daughter brave as if you have more right on his daughter than the father. I just hope you get a daughter and everyone else challenge your words for her everytime you say it.
On the top of it, calling the grieved father who just lost his daughter “** a chitta unparh gawarh aadmi **” says a lot about your mental status.

Let me just remind, even if by your words she was a prostitute, she could only be successful in her career due to the apparent shareef-zaaday like you who keep reciting Astaghfirullah loudly in the day time and promote them in the night time.
What’s the exact word for these kinda words in Urdu again??

[kakaballi]

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@SID_NY

Once again Pakistan is in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. This has become third top international news today. …

How do you rank international news?

[SID_NY]

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@kakaballi

How do you rank international news?

First two were turkey and Nice(france). I rank it thru google/yahoo/apple newsfeed

[Southie]

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@mocpk

Alhumdulillah honey and looking at your comments i hope you practice what you preach and are raising little prosti-tots. Otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Oh wait i just read you using the word “hajam” so i am pretty sure you dunno what Alhumdulillah means. TBH frustrated indians/hindus should focus on their own problems instead of butting in with their half-baked modern views of life.

I could easily have been referring to the posters who showed empathy for the person who was brutally murdered. That you took that as a comment directed at you shows there is a tinka.

You seem to be a person who does prayers regularly but has no clue what empathy and Kindness is. Learn from some posters who showed plenty of it.

Alhamdulillah

[Theorist]

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@SID_NY

A nation has certainly to blame when they have more honor killings and more acid attacks on women, more people to show up in jinaza of killers like Qadri, and more people to throw dirt on people like malala while calling Edhi a kaazib or athiest.

And thank you for proving our point by calling her since with this mentality its proven how you look down upon women.
At the same time you also said so atleast you are acknowledging that our nation is soo highly intolerant that somebody must hv killed her. Unless you are saying that she deserved to say being a “prostitute-esque”

And then you say why blame the nation, how cute!

I thought I was the only one who noticed the contradicting statements.

Good job, Sid bro. I am on the road right now. Will share my own thoughts when I get back.

[mahool]

Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa

I want to share my thoughts on mentality of Pakistanis on her murder.

I read many comments on social media… Mostly people are happy on this honor killing … which is sad… our society have double standards… A wrong act for person A is wrong and it is also wrong for B, C… and so on.

QB posted videos and other stuff on social media… it is you who followed her by clicking button on her page..
You guys quote… aik insan ki mour sari insaniat ki mout hia… iss case me app logon ki insaniat teel lainy chali gaye hia…
Honor killing is big problem in Pakistan… It is sad that she was brutally killed by her brother but is the saddest part when educated people are showing happiness that at least she is no more… what kind of mentality it this?
You guys were sad that Edhi Sb passed away… this guy brought up thousands of illegitimate new born … if you approve one person but hate another person on the basis of her behavior… then there is problem within you not in QB.

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[mahool]

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[Theorist]

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@mocpk

Oh look mommie fake liberals everywhere!!!

YAWN!!!

Let me break it down for your fake asses:

1. She WAS a prostitute. The proof is in the pudding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwB_FB5MyMs But then again maybe making youtube videos pays a lot and hence she was living this lavish lifestyle. :halo:

2. My dear open minded people. If there is nothing wrong with being a prostitute and if it is merely a means of living a life then please practice what you preach and inspire/teach your daughters to join this noble profession when they grow up and don’t be a “scum”.

3. Ogle at someone? Look down on women? Honey as a moderate “woman” i don’t think i look down on other women. And i ogle at men when i want, doesn’t mean i sell my body to them or twerk and show my cleavage.

4. Had it coming? Of course she HAD it coming. Any one of her benefactors could’ve killed her. She was using other people for her bid for popularity and for getting to Bollywood. People who malign their country/religion for their careers or for asylums SHOULD always have it coming.

5. Father said she was “brave”? DUH!!! of course a chitta unparh gawarh aadmi would call his sonay ki chiriya “brave”. He just lost a goldmine.

Like i said it is indeed sad that she was killed but your feminazi asses are doing way too much. Where were you when she was posting all this stuff? Were you commending her then or were you enjoying her making a fool out of herself? Being sad and hurt at her murder is right but glorifying a mentally unstable attention seekers (to prove you are some sort of proponents of justice) is just plain stupid.

Can you explain to me what the heck is a fake liberal? I am really struggling with this one.

1. What difference does it make that she was a prostitute? She was more than just a prostitute. She escaped an abusive marriage. She supported her family for the last six years. If anything, she has probably done more good than you and I could do. Again, what f****** difference does it make that she chose to support herself and her family by selling herself?

2. Just because we are saying there is nothing wrong with being a prostitute, doesn’t mean we will motivate our sisters and daughters to choose that profession. Why don’t you step up and help them get out of this filthy profession? If you won’t, why are you judging? Many choose this profession out of necessity and we need to respect their decision, especially in a place like Pakistan where it literally takes steel balls to do what she did. You think she didn’t know people mocked her? Yet there she was strutting her stuff.

3. You are a disgrace to all women! You are implicitly justifying her murder. A woman that justifies another woman’s murder is worse than the one that shows her cleavage or sells her body.

4. Yeah, she had it coming because she happened to be in a horrible, backwards, and intolerant society! That’s the only reason she had it coming. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying “People who malign their country/religion for their careers or for asylums SHOULD always have it coming”. If only the country and religion were perfect! This is far far from the reality. Do you know what our country and religion is known for? Terrorism, intolerance, injustice, and barbarism. Are any of those things to be proud of? If anything, Qandeel’s murder proved we really are those things! So many girls and women are sacrificed for honor. What honor!!! Do we have any left?

5. Yes, she was brave. She did not beg, she did not become a burden on her parents. She did what she could and wanted to and supported her family for years in spite of people mocking her and sending her death threats.

You are right. You are not a feminist. You are everything we stand against. If it weren’t for immoral, cheating, horny men, prostitution would fail in a country like Pakistan. We pay young women/girls to dance in our weddings but we will be terrified if our own sister or daughter danced like that. Why the double standard? When we can’t treat another struggling woman like our own sister, mother, or daughter then we have absolutely no right to judge how they choose to live their lives. You have no idea of their struggles.

Stop being so damn self-righteous.

[mahool]

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@mocpk

Ah yes. The self hating “moddraan and libraal” desis. No topic is complete without them. I hope whatever paradise you people are living in is providing you equal rights and no bigotry. massive eye roll. Its disgusting the way Pakistanis are so self-deprecating. One look at the self-style wannabe liberal news sites just as expresstribune would clearly reveal this self-deprecation. Where Indian media monitors its website comments section, we have rampant hateful comments by indians for the sake for “freedom of expression” (another wannabe trait).

How is the nation to blame if a person decided to murder his prostitue-eque (no esque there though just using it out of respect for the dead) sister? We have the likes of Mathiras, Veena Mailks and Meera (especially after her porno clip) roaming around freely? If the society/country was so intolerant than they would’ve been murdered as well.

Is it sad that she died? Yes absolutely, nobody deserves to go like this. But then again she had it long time coming and somebody was bound to kill her eventually if not her brother. Maybe one of her scorned lovers (ala Nadira, Marvi etc etc) by the blessings of whom she was able to live a lavish lifestyle (check out her Eik Din Geo Kay Saath interview).

How sick and retarded is your mentality.
You are making claim that Qandeel was prostitute… which she was not and even if she was it is none of your business…
She was famous social media celebrity.. famous for her controversial statement on Modi and Team Pakistan… Honor killing of such person would raise concern due to her popularity… it is not like someone in remote town of Pakistan killed in the name of honor.
Showing skin in video did not mean she was prostitute… Please refrain from such comments as now she is not more.

@mocpk

Alhumdulillah honey and looking at your comments i hope you practice what you preach and are raising little prosti-tots. Otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Oh wait i just read you using the word “hajam” so i am pretty sure you dunno what Alhumdulillah means. TBH frustrated indians/hindus should focus on their own problems instead of butting in with their half-baked modern views of life.

These Indians are better than you, who know Islam more than you.

@shaasavera

I agree with you but she was not a prostitute. Just because she wore western clothes/exposed/danced/was outspoken on her own fb page people think it is ok to denigrate her. It’s ok if Fawad Khan, Imran Abbas, Hamza Ali Abbasi or other Pakistani actors wear skimpy clothes but she is a woman so it matters more to society.

Unfortunately she did not have the high class backing of other Pakistani actors who wear similar dresses/do similar dance but are not categorised as prostitutes.

If prostitutes are at fault so are their customers who zinna with them. Then why punishment is one sided.

before anyone judges her do read this.

The Parable of The Prostitute | Virtual Mosque

This is really good article.

[waleedhbk]

Re: Are we being hypocrite to honor killing situation? Spinoff from Qandeel b. threa

Can anyone explain me if someone asks me where I am living right now that why did they killed the gal what should I tell to them

That we are one of most hypocrites nations of the world

[TLK]

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Her biggest crime was that she exposed the gandee third class mulla zehniyat. She was a brave woman. It takes guts to expose and punch the religious mafia where it hurts the most. I am so happy that police decided to indict that tharki mullah and made that zaleel budhdha part of this investigation.
The moral decline of our nation is not because of bold ladies like Qandeel because she was what she was inside and outside. The problem is the pseudo religious, double standards, hypocrite tharki men like mufti Qavi

[Tahurra]

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@waleedhbk

That we are one of most hypocrites nations of the world

Enough said!!

We are astaghfirullah.
Hope justice will be served not in this country but in the next world!!inshaAllah

[mocpk]

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@mahool

How sick and retarded is your mentality.
You are making claim that Qandeel was prostitute… which she was not and even if she was it is none of your business…
She was famous social media celebrity.. famous for her controversial statement on Modi and Team Pakistan… Honor killing of such person would raise concern due to her popularity… it is not like someone in remote town of Pakistan killed in the name of honor.
Showing skin in video did not mean she was prostitute… Please refrain from such comments as now she is not more.

These Indians are better than you, who know Islam more than you.

On a scale of 1 to 10 how naive are you? I’m guessing you lived a very sheltered life. :halo: She was a prostitute and its hilarious how people claiming hypocrisy are hypocrites themselves. None of my business? LMAO, was that an argument? She is dead…that is sad but it doesn’t change her truth.

A random Indian better than me and understands islam more than me? Okay, if that helps you sleep at night. All this Kumbaya crap here is pathetic.

[mocpk]

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@Theorist

Can you explain to me what the heck is a fake liberal? I am really struggling with this one.

1. What difference does it make that she was a prostitute? She was more than just a prostitute. She escaped an abusive marriage. She supported her family for the last six years. If anything, she has probably done more good than you and I could do. Again, what f****** difference does it make that she chose to support herself and her family by selling herself?

2. Just because we are saying there is nothing wrong with being a prostitute, doesn’t mean we will motivate our sisters and daughters to choose that profession. Why don’t you step up and help them get out of this filthy profession? If you won’t, why are you judging? Many choose this profession out of necessity and we need to respect their decision, especially in a place like Pakistan where it literally takes steel balls to do what she did. You think she didn’t know people mocked her? Yet there she was strutting her stuff.

3. You are a disgrace to all women! You are implicitly justifying her murder. A woman that justifies another woman’s murder is worse than the one that shows her cleavage or sells her body.

4. Yeah, she had it coming because she happened to be in a horrible, backwards, and intolerant society! That’s the only reason she had it coming. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying “People who malign their country/religion for their careers or for asylums SHOULD always have it coming”. If only the country and religion were perfect! This is far far from the reality. Do you know what our country and religion is known for? Terrorism, intolerance, injustice, and barbarism. Are any of those things to be proud of? If anything, Qandeel’s murder proved we really are those things! So many girls and women are sacrificed for honor. What honor!!! Do we have any left?

5. Yes, she was brave. She did not beg, she did not become a burden on her parents. She did what she could and wanted to and supported her family for years in spite of people mocking her and sending her death threats.

You are right. You are not a feminist. You are everything we stand against. If it weren’t for immoral, cheating, horny men, prostitution would fail in a country like Pakistan. We pay young women/girls to dance in our weddings but we will be terrified if our own sister or daughter danced like that. Why the double standard? When we can’t treat another struggling woman like our own sister, mother, or daughter then we have absolutely no right to judge how they choose to live their lives. You have no idea of their struggles.

Stop being so damn self-righteous.

Yeah i am sorry but MASSIVE eye rolls to your whole post. If you want to know what a fake liberal is you should re-read your own post. Okay so if you share such values then i guess you would have no problem raising your daughters to be as brave as Qandeel then, braving shaking their thangs and making bank. Hey they might just be doing it to support their family as well. Cant do it na? You are a hypocrite and a fake liberal.

And LMAO at her being tortured poor soul. She had an abusive marriage? According to whom? Her? She didn’t even have the balls to get her son back once she was famous. If she was truly a brave independent woman she could’ve used her fame to get her son back which would’ve been easier for her since he is of that age where they are legally required to live with their mothers. INSTEAD she was parading around as a “chanchal kali” wooing married men. A person who can curse a Prime Minister, boldly propose strip teasing shouldn’t have had a problem. We wouldn’t have had even known about her marriage or her son if her husband didn’t come forward. So yeah brave? I don’t think so. Besharam and beghairat? Yes.

You people not only are hypocrites but are the true definition of Tamashbeens who were enjoying the spectacle when she was alive and are chamkaoing you fake feminazi ki dukaan now that she is dead.

And wait did you just say that the religion is NOT perfect? LMAO. Yes i am done with you. You are everything that is wrong with muslims (i honestly think you aren’t one though are are once of those fancy new age atheists). Because if you WERE a muslim you would’ve know that there is no such thing as “honor killing” or “Terrorism” in Islam. I would NEVER be ashamed of my religion, that is something wannabe groas like you do to appeal to the actual goras who will never think of you as one of them, no matter how hard you try. Now i understand why religious fanatics kill people like you.

A fahasha “brave” and the religion “imperfect”. LMAO. Ladies and gentlemen i present to you the new age “modraan” muslims. YOU are whats wrong with the religion honey.