Re: Are today’s muslims, yesterday’s Bani Israeel?
I said the truth and there you are writng paragraphs after paragraphs. You know what. Write as much as you like. I have given you the example of Muhammad PBUH migrating. Yes by the will of Allah ofcourse. Thats my point. Prophets migrate and theres nothing wrong or uncommon about it. It is a way of Allah to spread the true teaching. You falsely accused jamaat e ahmadiyya to have been thrown out of the homeland and considered it a victory. I merely showed you this is not uncommon. Look at you all jumping up and down.
As far as what our Khalifas say, we are obligated to follow their commandments which are in accordance to Quran and ahadith and to spread the true teachings of Islam. Keep in mind, they are not divinely guided but divinely inspired. Our belief is that khalifa is chosen by Allah Almighty. What they say can be amended by either themselves or the future khalifa. So relax yourself about that.
As far as what I stated about people conversion. Well, this is the harsh truth that you must accept. Jamaat e ahmadiyya which literally is the true teachings of Islam is being spread all over the world. You cannot escape from this fact that people like you thought to stop the progress of jamaat within Pakistan or within India and now you see it being spread everywhere. Another harsh truth that should open your eyes is the opposition jamaat faces everywhere. Again, opposition is one of many sign of someone’s truthfulness. I ask you, which jamaat out of all the sects(note i used sects and not jamaat as theres a difference) in Pakistan or elsewhere where they are being persecuted for their faith ? purely on claiming that Allah is one and Muhammad PBUH is his messenger ? What did we see back in history ? Muhammad PBUH and His early followers were being stopped from praying.. they were persecuted, they used to pray in hidden rooms, faced all sorts of extremism that today Jamaat is facing. Buddy, these things will go beyond your imagination. You are good at pointing fingers at others.. keep doing that.
This must be a joke. You dont see the difference, do you ? You are comparing filth that is on 24/7 with the voice of Islam ? Tell me what does it mean when Allah says .. truth has come and falsehood has vanished away.. falsehood indeed vanishes away fast. So, now Mr.Ibn e sadique, where has the falsehood vanished away ? What ever your answer is, accept it from your heart and dont criticize others for the same. Indeed truth has come and falsehood has vanished away.
As far as presenting holy Quran to Queen Elizabeth and vice versa.. the Quran is being presented by the Holy Khalifa of Jamaat e ahmadiyya, Khalifatul muslimeen, whose status your scholars know very well but you choose to live under a rock. One hadith states that whoever has not recognized the imam of His time has died a death of an illiterate.
Allah’s success indeed. Today we are building mosques after mosques, delivering peace message door to door in western countries, holding symposiums, holding gathering where we defend Islam, defend the honour of Muhammad PBUH. Invites others to accept Islam. Yes, all peacefully, not by burning tires, not by destroying our own properties, not by killing innocent civilians. You my friend needs to calm yourself down and come in the real world.
Allah has stated that if Muhammad PBUH were to lie on my name, I would have certainly killed him. Now, keep this as an example and tell me that Hz Ahmad (as) claimed to be promised Messiah and the same Imam Mahdi, claimed that Allah almighty speaks to Him, According to the sayin of Allah, had he been wrong, He and his followers would have always faced defeat. But ALAS, the way of Allah is beyond your understanding. What you see as insignificant is what we see success.
It’s very simple. You make it very complicated. And you do this because if you dont do it, you wont be praised by your fellow muslims havin same beliefs.
Muhammad PBUH is the greatest of all prophets. Muhammadi shariyah has been completed and Islam is now perfected. Allah has chosen Islam for us as a religion and calls anyone believing anything other than that as a loser. Then we have the concept of Isa (as) descent. We have ahadith stating his descent (not coming back). It’s rather ironic to say with your tongue that Islam is complete and then we await Son of Mary. You need to first ask yourself :
- if Islam is complete and in exactly the same order as what was revealed to Muhammad PBUH, then WHAT IS the need of Jesus (as)
- if Islam is complete and yet we believe in Jesus a.s, then if he comes, will he believe in every single thing you portray as Islam ? if yes, then again, whats the need of his coming?
- If islam is complete, which it is.. and we believe in Jesus a.s coming, if he comes, and preaches us the true interpretation of Quran and ahadith and be the just ruler about what is right in Islam and what was added later on in Islam by scholars, are we with Jesus a.s or are we going to hold on to the Islam our forefathers have left for us ?
These are questions that not only you will wrestle with, but your scholars even today have not a single answer to this. It is as if you are too proud of the fact that the version of Islam you have is the same one that was revealed on Muhammad PBUH, because its not. If it was, then muslims shouldnt have been in the condition and state that they are currently are now.
We have the best book, we have the best of best prophet, we have the best ummah, we are the best people chosen by Allah. What is it then that we Muslims keep seeing downfall? If we have sugar, suji, oil.. why dont we make halwa out of it ?
As far as what Messiah (as) said about Jesus a.s and His virgin mother was entirely based on the response to christian missionaries from their own books. Promised Messiah states that our opponents wrongly accuse us of saying such a thing and call it my belief that this is my belief.. it is not, infact how can I say such words about Jesus a.s whose metaphorical name is given to me by Allah. So my friend, think outside the box. Dont you feel for even once that how is it that the things you accuse someone and his followers believe something completely different. Is there not something wrong with YOUR understanding ? Had it been our belief about Jesus a.s and the belief of promised Messiah(as), why on Earth would we be refusing it? So , kindly, before raising accusation , sit back and do some research.