Are today's muslims, yesterday's Bani Israeel?

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Re: Are today’s muslims, yesterday’s Bani Israeel?

@kchughtai

The verse 19:12-13 comprise a statement of Allah regarding Yahya (as) and his attributes have been highlighted i.e.,

**Pickthal: (And it was said unto his son): O John! Hold fast the Scripture. And We gave him wisdom when a child, And compassion from Our presence, and purity; and he was devout,…

**yes zakkatan has been used as an attribute of yahya that Allah gave him. No mention of ‘Salah’ here. ‘Auwsaini’ is not used rather ‘Aaataina’ (we gave) is used. there is difference between Allah giving ‘Zakatan’ to someone and Allah commanding someone to give zakat.

Having said that, it is better to stick to the verse we are talking about. So here it is again

**19:30 He (Jesus(as)) said: "Verily, I am a servant of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;‘’
19:31 "And He has made me blessed wherever I be, and has enjoined on me (Awsani) Salah and Zakah, as long as I live.‘’

19:32 "And to be dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblessed.‘’**

What has been enjoined on him: 1) Salah 2) Zakat 3) being dutiful to his mother
What are his inherent/builtin attributes: 1) not arrogant 2) not unblessed or graceless

What was the form of Zakat, what were the pre-conditions are un-necessary issues to delve into. the main thing is that Salah and Zakat has been ordered by Allah to him

Maryam 19:31

Here is the link where you will find dozens of translations of this verse and words used for ‘Auwsaini’ are:

1. enjoined on 2) bequeath 3) commanded 4) directed 5) required of me 6) ordered 7) recommended
   From the above words, you will not even get a hint that praying and giving charity has been embedded in his nature.
   PS: I have only selected the translations from the generally accepted category

Secondly, you totally brushed aside the following statement from the tafsir

So 9:31 is similar to 15:99 where the holy prophet (pbuh) has been commanded to worship Allah till his death

Peace kchughtai

Please see the definition of the word “enjoin”

Enjoin on google also has the meaning … “Ordain” and “urge someone to do something” … Coupled with the point made by Sh. Ibn Kathir … That this verse is the CLEAREST evidence …of the divine decree … So who are you trying to kid? Yourself … Not me …

The root is WSY … It means to instruct with persuasion …

I didn’t brush aside any statement … I’m showing you that your argument of Isa (AS) not being alive on account of your false understanding of zakat in this verse … Is what it is … clutching at straws. The thing is it is not your argument … It is an established argument by your people which is why you are having a major problem with my response …