Are today's muslims, yesterday's Bani Israeel?

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Are today’s muslims, yesterday’s Bani Israeel?

@Mr.Popat

Listen buddy.. i’m not here to discuss again all that I have already discussed with you. I’m not a jew who believe only when everything must come to its fulfillment literally.

Yes buddy worry not I am not here to discuss issues that have been dealt with.

Nobody called you a Jew. You got it wrong; the Jews did not wait for the events to come their fulfillment literally to believe them.

The Jews mostly are obstinate, pig-headed bordering on rebelliousness. They stubbornly stick to their dogma even when all the evidence is against them. Read the Blessed Quran again and you will see this theme repeated all the time.

Read the following incident of Hz. Abdullah Ibn Salam (ra) accepting Islam.

With all the evidence in their books they still pig-headedly refused to accept the truth. But Hz. Abdullah Ibn Salam (ra) did and many others did the same.

Read about the incident:

One day, when he was in the company of the respected Jewish elders of Medina, Prophet Muhammad asked them their thoughts and opinions about the character of Ibn Salam. They replied that, "he is the best of us, the son of the best of us, the most knowledgeable and the son of the most knowledgeable”[1] Prophet Muhammad continued to question them and asked what their opinion would be if Ibn Salam came to learn about and accept Islam. The Jews reacted with horror. Never would he do such a thing they cried! At that moment Ibn Salam entered the room and declared his conversion to Islam. The Jews reacted angrily, but Ibn Salam knew that the Jewish revealed books had predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad.

Abdullah Ibn Salam (All parts) - The Religion of Islam

@Mr.Popat

What his name would be..where he will be born.. whose progeny he will be from are all (im sorry to say) but ridiculous questions to be asking,

You mean the blessed Prophet (saw) wasted his time repeating the names of Mahdi and Promised Messiah?

If so, then you are extremely wrong. The Blessed Prophet (saw) repeatedly mentioned the names of Mahdi and Promised Messiah so that his Ummah get it right.

But then as the human nature goes there are a few tiny number of humans who like the obstinate Jews will deny the truth staring them in the face and follow any Pied Piper/wannabe mahdi/false prophet (to their doom).

@Mr.Popat

if you dont even have an iota of knowledge about the history of bani israel.. the reasons why Jesus a.s was rejected.. why Muslims like you were compared with jews etc. We must see the signs and the era in which he was suppose to come and then look for other signs foretold in Quran about the truthfulness of someone ( being living after the claim of prophethood, Allah’s support with him etc ).. the name of the person , his place of birth are all the types of questions jews used to ask and still do. I’m sorry but you are talking just like jews.

Buddy you are the last person I want to learn about history of Jews – The Blessed Quran says enough for me to know that the Jews were arrogant, obstinate, stiff-necked and rebellious in nature.

If the truth struck a Jew in the face with all the evidence in its favour, the Jew being stubborn and arrogant, will never recognize and acknowledge the truth.

You my buddy and likes of you are in the some trait as that of the Jews.

@Mr.Popat

All that aside, I dont have time to quote every single thing you wrote. I still have not gotten my answer. If your Messiah were to do the same .. that is, tell you what ahadith is right and what shouldnt be taken as literally etc.. what would you tell him ? will you follow what he says or insist on your stance that no one has the right the question ? Will you reject him on the basis that he’s telling you something else other than what your scholars have taught you ?? yes or no ?

I have answered you well enough but you just don’t see it.

The eminent scholars of days of yore have done excellent job of sorting out of the ahadith literature.

Islam as a religion is complete – nothing more can be added to it and neither anything can be taken out of it. So Imam Mahdi (ra) will not re-interpret ahadith to suit any agenda.

The agenda of Imam Mahdi Muhammad ibn Abdullah (ra) will be to unify the Muslim Ummah. Wayward Muslims and those who had formed their own sects will be shown the true path. He will also unify the Muslim Ummah politically under one leadership. He will be righteous Khaleefah.

If I am around when Imam Mahdi (ra) appears I will follow him knowing full well that he will adding nothing to Islam and neither taking out of Islam.