Brother, it seems you are confuse.
… I am not using hadith or Quran to kill people (or even promote killing of people) …
I am advocating that anyone who is creating fitna and fisad in Pakistan by killing innocent people should be fought with and should be killed mercilessly (and that is regardless of what is mentioned in hadith).
Anyhow, since some people consider these Fisadis as Muslims they feel reluctant when fighting them … but then these Fisadis are Kharjees and that is what I am showing from Hadith … so that Muslims should not feel reluctant and spare life of these ‘dogs of hell’ considering them Muslim … because even hadith associated to Prophet (SAW) tells Muslim to fight and kill them.
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[Note: Muslims hand feel reluctant to kill those they think are Muslim … as from one hadith … when Prophet (SAW) sent a Sahabi to kill a kharjee … that Sahabi found him in Mosque praying in such committed manner that Sahabi felt reluctant to kill the Kharjee and returned … and that is what is happening in Pakistan, that some people feel reluctant in fighting and killing these Kharjees].
And what trial you talk about? There un-forced confession (claiming their killings) and at many places their involvement is obvious to even blind person. Army who are fighting them know them and their crime.
If police and judiciary could not do anything about them than that does not mean these thugs are innocent. Actually, one cannot go for individuals, as these thugs are doing organised crime of killing Pakistani innocent citizens and destroying places. They are fighting army too, and that means, army should kill them and their support on spot.
Anyone who does not believe on Pakistani law, Pakistani constitution and Pakistani judiciary … then what justice they deserve? They are fighting and beheading Pakistani army men, killing innocent civilians, attacking government buildings, and blowing schools, mosques, churches, imam-bargahs, etc … they deserve no talk or chance to live, but should be given quick justice of bullet.
Brother, lagta hay aap parhnay warhnay per Yaqeen nahi rakhtay
… It seems you did not read my earlier post carefully, where I gave clear evidences and reason that ‘Kharjees of Najdi hadith’ are Wahabis and as they could not be anyone else other than Wahabis whose movement started in Durya (part of Riyadh) … and important thing is that these ‘Najdi Kharjees’ could not be from outside Arabian Peninsula, as only Arabian Peninsula was under Muslim rule during the time of prophet (SAW) … and from hadth it is clear that people asked prophet (SAW) to pray for ‘our Najd’ that Prophet (SAW) declined saying that ‘horn of Shaitan full of Fitna and Fisad’ would appear from there.
Obviously, Najdi Kharjees could not be from Najaf as Najaf did not existed at the time of Prophet (SAW) … as Najaf, Kufa and surrounding areas were all Muslim garrison that got occupied during Umar (RA) time from Persians and thus came into existence during the Khalafat of Umar (RA).
So, it is impossible that people would ask to pray for Najaf or any place where there was no Muslim living nor it was under Muslim rule (and in hadith, people asked prophet to pray for Najd).
Najaf is at sea-level and not upland … and Najd in Arabic means upland (or highland). Well, language in Iraq during the time of Prophet (SAW) was not Arabic anyhow to call a land there by an Arabic name and that also … with wrong meaning.
In hadith Prophet (SAW) pointed towards East … and Najaf or any part of Iraq is not east of Madina as I mentioned in my earlier post, but only two cities fall directly east of Madina (all ~ 44.6 degree above equator) and these two cities are Riyadh and Abu Dhabi … both were under Muslim rule during the time of Prophet (SAW) … though one (Riyadh) is located on Najd in Arabia that is Riyadh … and other is not … plus, Riyadh is upland (Najdi city) … and Abu Dhabi is lowland (not a Najdi city)
Anyhow, I would mention the hadith people use to claim that Najd is Iraq … and even though it is not possible because no part of Iraq was Muslim area during the time of Prophet (SAW), reading hadith it is clear too.
Hadith (from Sahi Muslim): Ibn Fudail reported on the authority of his father that he heard salim b. 'Abdullah b. 'Umar as saying: O people of Iraq, how strange it is that you ask about the minor sins but commit major sins? I heard from my father 'Abdullah b. 'Umar, narrating that he heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying while pointing his hand towards the east: Verily. the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the horns of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another; and Moses killed a person from among the people of Pharaoh unintentionally and Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said:" You killed a person but We relieved you from the grief and tried you with (many a) trial" (xx. 40). Ahmad b. Umar reported this hadith from salim, but he did not make a mention of the words:" I heard". (Sahi Muslim, Book #041](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=041&translator=2&start=0&number=6943), Hadith #6943](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=041&translator=2&start=0&number=6943#6943))
It can be seen that hadith is mentioned in Iraq by ‘Ibn Fudail’ quoting his father who heard the hadith from Salim who heard the hadith from his father Abdullah bin Umar … and thus Najd mentioned in hadith is nothing to do with Iraq … (for instance, one can quote this hadith in Lahore, Karachi or London … that does not mean, Lahore, Karachi or London would become ‘Najd’).
In hadith only thing is that … ‘Fitna, Fisad and disbief’ would come from ‘Najd’ that is ‘east of Madina’ …
Let see the actual hadith by ‘Salim’ … that was quoted by Ibn Fudail (through his father)…
Hadith: Narrated salim’s father: The Prophet stood up beside the pulpit (and pointed with his finger towards the east) and said, “Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there, from where the side of the head of Satan comes out,” or said, “..the side of the sun..” (Sahi Bukhari, Book #88](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=88&translator=1&start=0&number=212), Hadith #212](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=88&translator=1&start=0&number=212#212))
Here also hadith is from Salim who was quoting his father Abdullah bin umar (RA) … so let see what Abdullah bin Umar (RA) said:
Hadith: Narrated Ibn 'Umar: (The Prophet) said, “O Allah! Bless our Sham and our Yemen.” People said, “Our **najd **as well.” The Prophet again said, “O Allah! Bless our Sham and Yemen.” They said again, “Our najd as well.” On that the Prophet said, “There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the head of Satan.” (Sahi Bukhari, Book #17](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=17&translator=1&start=0&number=147), Hadith #147](http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=17&translator=1&start=0&number=147#147))
Note: we have various hadith (in Bukhari, Muslim and other hadith books) where Prophet (SAW) pointing towards East (Najd) said the same.
So, you can see actual hadith is about Najd that was Muslim area during the time of Prophet (SAW), is located in the east (east of Madina) and is upland.
We also have to understand that after this hadith, no place would keep their name Najd … but Najd that is in Saudi Arabia is called Najd since ancient time by Arabs … because the place is a plateau that is located ~ 1000 metre above sea-leval (is upland place) hence it is called Najd.