Are Shia muslims safer in Pakistan or in india?

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Re: Are Shia muslims safer in Pakistan or in india?

@indopak

The reason I was saying that Pakistan should be a lot higher in terms of literacy was because you were bragging about how Muslims enjoy so many rights and it’s a heaven for them and to that I replied that the literacy rate should not be nearly as low as 40% range because there was nothing standing in their way in terms of discrimination like you said.

When in God’s name did I say Pakistan was heaven? I’ve started every post with some sort of disclaimer about how both countries have serious issues, but for Muslims and Muslims alone, the situation is comparatively better than in Pakistan.

@indopak

Plus if you compare each individual state in India to that of Pakistan, the literacy rates of muslims is a lot higher than 40% in each state(except Bihar and Haryana which aren’t doing too well overall(Hindus and Muslims) and Muslims are more literate in a couple states.http://india_resource.tripod.com/religion-demographics.html

First of all, if youre going to accept Indian government figures at face value, then you should accept accept Pakistani figures too…which means that the national literacy rate is 56%, not 40 as you claim.

http://www.moe.gov.pk/faqs.htm?#q4

Now, looking at the chart that you provided…if you look at the states with the highest Muslim populations (UP, West Bengal, Bihar) which alone account for half of the Muslims in India, the Muslim literacy rate doesn’t even compare to Pakistan except in Bengal, where its about equal.

Moreover, literacy rates aren’t everything. Kerala has a literacy rate comparable to those found in the developed world…and yet, the state is an economic backwater whose economy is completely dependent on remittances from migrant workers in the Gulf. And again, despite being 90% literate, Muslims in Kerala are still incredibly underrepresented in the public sector workforce.

@indopak

Anyway, my point is that both countries have obstacles right now and you won’t find me complaining and saying negative things about India because hopefully India will sort all these religious issues out one day and progress even more.

For the last time, no one is disputing the fact that both countries have a long way to go. None of that changes the fact that Muslims face significant discrimination in India, and that the situation is probably somewhat better for them in Pakistan.

Now, just to clarify, if you believe that I’m wrong to criticize India’s treatment of its minorities because its a work in progress…does that also mean that a couple decades back, you would have been against civil rights leaders in the US criticizing Jim Crow laws and segregation…after all, American democracy was a work in progress too, so who the hell were they to ‘sit around and say negative things about the US, because hopefully one day America will sort out all these racial issues and progress even more.’