Re: Are Pathans considered Afghanis?
We supported Taliban, who were fighting the other ethnicities in Afghanistan. At that time, atleast the taliban had a favourable view of Pakistan. While the rest of the people disliked pakistan, because we were helping those fighting against them. But now, when pakistan ditched the taliban, even they have started hating us. So we don't have many allies left in Afghanistan. I think the feeling they have for us is very natural.
I won't have a favourable view of someone who helped my enemy. (this goes for the Northern Alliance of the anti-taliban)
and i won't have a favourable view of someone who ditched me and helped others catch me and kill me. (this goes for the taliban)
Do you disagree with this logic?
Shadan, you're not getting your events correct.
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We supported Taliban, who were fighting the other ethnicities in Afghanistan. At that time, atleast the taliban had a favourable view of Pakistan. While the rest of the people disliked pakistan, because we were helping those fighting against them.
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Pakistan supported the Taliban, but here is the important part, every single factional group in Afghanistan was killing everyone else in Afghanistan, prior to the support Pakistan gave the Taliban. If the Taliban could conquer the whole of Afghanistan, they could bring peace. That was the objective.
Here's a list of the events before the support, since I wrote it anyway.
If you remember, when the Soviets left Afghanistan, the factions started fighting each other. Everyone was being killed, much like when the Soviets were there, not much difference except now Afghanis were killing Afghanis. What then happened was that the Taliban popped up in Kandahar when they were doing Robin Hood deeds of rescuing people and bring order. Pakistan saw this, and needed safe passage for its convoys into central asia. It wanted to expand this movement to safeguard a trade route through to central asia. The Afghani traffic mafia also supported the Taliban, and even as he's admitted, Karzai helped the Taliban in the beginning. They did eventually bring peace to a large extent of the country, but they became brainwashed by the Arabs that had entered into their ranks after they'd been expelled from their own countries. Pakistan was already beginning to desert the Taliban by around 2000. So while the Taliban were a mistake, if Pakistan had not have supported them, Ahmad Massoud would have continued his killing spree and carried on destroying Kabul anyway.
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But now, when pakistan ditched the taliban, even they have started hating us. So we don't have many allies left in Afghanistan. I think the feeling they have for us is very natural.
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Not true. The Taliban are not all the Pashtuns of Afghanistan. I think that though the Taliban doesnt like Pakistan, the Pashtuns in Afghanistan not part of the Taliban (which is the majority most likely, since there's 15 million of them) don't mind Pakistan.