Re: Are Pakistanis Brown?
Bilkul dilwaley hain ji ! Hehehehe
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Apparently South Indians, Sri Lankans and Bengalis are a mixture of Africans and Austrlasians.
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/bengal.html
A Native’s Perspective: An Introduction
The Black race in its entirety has been the victim of subjugation and extermination by the Caucasoid race from the dawning of modern humanity. However, it truly remarkable that this unique community has survived and accomplished remarkable feats that have redefined the world in every possible way. As the groundbreaking historian Runoko Rashidi has often used the words “Black” and “African” interchangeably, I will remain loyal to his terminology and define all members of the Black race to be of Austroloid and Negroid descent. This merger of noble humanity is to include all the Aborigines of Australia, New Guinea, The Philippines, and Indonesia. It embraces the proto-Austroloids of Bangladesh and eastern India, the lower castes and tribal Dravidians of India, Sri-Lanka, the Andaman/Nicobar Islands, and ultimately all members of the African continent and its far-reaching diasporas on the western hemisphere of the Earth.
One of the most daunting tasks for a truth finder is to form an unbiased perspective in an era where most historical documents are corrupted by Euro-centric bigotry and Indo-Aryan white supremacy. There are few if any documents written truly from a native’s perspective. I will attempt to provide an account that exposes a truth, of which many in the world are simply not ready to bring to light and internalize. Moreover, it forces us as human beings to genuinely view the world for what it is. The truth hurts far more than the facade that allows so many in the world to live comfortable lives.
It is the primary focus of this document to answer many serious questions: Who were the inhabitants of East-Bengal before the arrival of the Muslims? Where are those people now? How have the Arabs and the Hindus destroyed Bangladesh? Most importantly, how can Pan-African politics help unite and possibly save the country?
The Original Inhabitants of Bengal
The word Bangladesh is derived from the term “Vangla”, a word given by the Bodo Aborigines of Assam to connote “wide plains.” The original inhabitants of modern day Bangladesh were the Proto-Austroloid Kols, otherwise known as Kolarians. The term Kol has ubiquitously been corrupted by the Aryan-Sanskritic speakers to the word “kalu”, meaning both “black” and “ugly” in almost all of the 16 languages of the Indian Sub-Continent. The Kolarians are a Dravidian sect, whose descendant communities can be found also in West Bengal and elsewhere in the eastern belt of the Indian-Subcontinent. Most geological scholars will contend that most of Bangladesh was fashioned 1 to 6.5 million years ago during the tertiary era. Semi-recent excavations in the Deolpota village of western Bengal seem to suggest that a Paleolithic civilization in the region existed about one hundred thousand years ago. A 10,000 to 15,000 year old stone structure in Rangamati is the primary evidence of Paleolithic civilization along with a hand axe found in the mountainous inclines of the Feni district. This Neo-stone age began 3,000 B.C. lasting almost 1500 years. Similar tools were found in Sitakunda of the eastern region Chittagong, and near Comilla district. The sparsely forested hills in eastern Bengal strewn with fertile valleys imparted a hospitable location for Neolithic settlements.1
Physically, the indigenous people were longheaded, dark skinned, broad-nosed, and short in stature. Sometimes labeled as “Negritos” and “Negroids”, their physical features are unchanged today among the lowest castes of Bengal, mainly the peasants, as well as 95% of population of Bangladesh today who derive from these lower castes and tribes.
The Aryan Invasion and Destruction of Ancient Bangladeshi Civilization
Most present day anthropologists and scholars will confirm that the people of the ancient Indus Valley Civilization were of the same racial stock as the present day Bangladeshis and lower castes of India. The Indus Valley Civilization marked a period of wealth and prosperity in Indian history. Noted developments include the development of yoga, the erection of ziggurats and the discovery of zero. All these inventions were later appropriated by the Aryan priests in what must have been the greatest case of scientific theft on record. The golden Harappan age came to an abrupt and brutal end when hordes of barbaric Aryans swept into India in 1500 BC through the Khyber Pass. Most of these Caucasians were under the flexible leadership of the moon worshipping Aryan named Indra. The 1000 years that followed imparted irreversible destruction and darkness. During this Vedic Dark Age (1500 BC - 500 BC) no civilization survives, no writing, nor any trace of the existence of even a semi-civilization. There is, even now in the late 21st century, complete ignorance concerning this era of Indian history. It was a seemingly endless orgy of slaughters and massacres of native Bangladeshis by the Caucasoid, barbaric invaders who considered it meritorious to butcher those of a different race, a Black race.2
Bharata launched the second Aryan invasion from Afghanistan, and conquered much of the upper Ganges valley. The mayhem and murder continued throughout this period, by the end of which no trace of the Indus Valley civilization was left and the Aborigines had been displaced from all of Northwest India. The massacres perpetuated by the Aryans in India during the 1000 years of the Vedic Dark Ages are unparalleled in history, exceeding the Holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis (which was inspired by the Vedic Aryans), and the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spaniards and Portuguese. Almost all of the 5 million inhabitants of the Indus Valley civilization perished, the rest being displaced east into Bangladesh and south into present day Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka. Thus, Bangladesh is a melting pot of various Black tribes with a separate Mongoloid presence to the east in modern day Myanmar.3
The armies of Lord' Ram initiated the Aryan invasion into Bengal during 600 BC. Subsequently, the apartheid varna system was strictly imposed. Those Black Aborigines who accepted Aryan enslavement were relegated to the Clean Sudra’ caste, and those who fought the Aryans were relegated to the “Untouchable” outcastes of Dalits and Adivasis. The worship of the Aryan religion of Vaishnavism was introduced and the aboriginal king of Kol was promptly murdered. In contrast to north India, the number of Dravidian Blacks was much higher and the number of Aryans low. Hence, extermination of the non-Aryan native population was not possible here in Bengal, as it had been done in north India, but a progressive agenda of Aryanization of the Kolerians and their assimilation into the varna system of racial apartheid was undertaken by the Aryans. Today the natives of East-Bengal speak Bengali or Bangla, a Sanskrit based Indo-European tongue hybridized with various indigenous Dravidian elements.4
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The Arabs Come to Bengal
The conversion of the native Bengalis to Islam began in the 8th century, when the Arabs began invading north India and present day Pakistan. Additionally, other East African Muslims were transplanted into India; most historians agree that 5-12% of the Muslims that entered India were Ethiopian mercenaries. Because Brahmanical tyranny and oppression of native Bengalis had reached a climax, the Muslims were hailed as liberators and saviors. Islam gained much support by the lower caste and “untouchable” Bengalis because it allowed them for the first time in their lives to reach upward mobility in society. Many indigenous and Hindu worshipping sites were destroyed and transformed into mosques. Although many Arabs freely mixed with the native Black population, the majority kept themselves racially distinct, keeping various titles such as ADM (Abu D. Muhammed), Sheikh and Sayed. Many Brahmans remained Hindu as well as a large number of low castes and “untouchables” masquerading under the false identity of Brahmanism. The others that were forcibly converted retained their caste names such as “Chowdhury”, “Biswas”, and "Das"5.
The Legacy of the Arabs and the Hindus
Hitherto, most Sheikhs and Sayeds boast of their light skin complexions and will not marry into a Black Aboriginal family. Even though these descendants of Arabs and Caste Hindus identify themselves as ethnic Bengalis, they have always looked down upon native Bengalis as “Village Kalus”(another term for “nigger”) and remain highly bigoted with regard to skin color. In modern times, Arab Sayed landowners have collaborated with the Brahman landowners to slaughter the tribal Santhals and Kols for financial gain via acquisition of tribal land. Most Muslim Aborigines from the village are in destitute poverty and remain illiterate; they typically work as housemaids and servants of the Arab Bangladeshis especially in places like the Chittigong district. They have no concept of their Aboriginal/tribal ancestry and have made no attempt to join hands with their tribal brothers that are raped and tortured every year by Hindu landowners all throughout Bengal, east and west. Most Islamic scholars in Bangladesh have written out the pre-Islamic past brainwashing the Black Bengalis into believing that they are dark skinned Arabs and are racially distinct from the Austroloid tribals. Today, the residual “untouchables” that did not convert to Islam perform the most inhuman and menial forms of labor as sanctioned by the Bangladeshi government. They are forced to work with human carcasses and clean human feces from the street gutters as their ancestors have done for centuries under Hindu oppression.
The introduction of a Caucasoid racial element into Bangladeshi society has had one of the most devastating effects on the development of the country. Most upwardly mobile and successful men tend to marry tall, and lighter skin women with long noses. **The influx of India’s openly racist film industry has done more to shatter whatever moral ethos the Black Bengali women carried before the Aryans and Arabs came to Bengal, Black is not beautiful in Bangladesh although 90-95% of the population is black Austroloid.
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Following Bangladesh’s independence in 1971, there has been a strong lack of political unity within Bangladesh because most politicians and government leaders are bigoted Caucasoids that only seek to better the financial standing of the Sayed and Sheikh elite rather than work for the better welfare of the people. Persons such as Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina are extremely corrupt and have done absolutely nothing in terms of social programs for the poor and illiterate Black majority.
The Need of The Hour: Pan-Africanism in Bangladesh and All of the Black World
During the African-American Holocaust of North-America, the Black descendants of slaves were forced to engage the cruel Anglo-Caucasian oppressor without any assistance whatsoever from the world at large, it was largely a local effort and a astonishing one indeed for many victories were won and many intellectuals were produced to assist fellow Blacks worldwide. In the coming decade the Black race as whole faces new and precarious predicaments such as HIV, crime, illiteracy, and infant mortality. These are only but a few to name, but the local populations on average cannot possibly solve them without help from their blood brothers and sisters from across the globe. With the Aborigines of Australia, The Philippines, and Andaman Islands nearing extinction along with massive proliferation of AIDS in Africa, Pan-Africanism is the need of the hour! According to the article “Pan-Negroism and the Tamil-Sinhala Conflict in Sri Lanka” written by Hadwa Dom of the Dalitstan Journal, the collaboration between Blacks has been proven effective in the struggle for humanity and the right to exist. In this effort, Nelson Mandela has provided military manpower in aid of the indigenous Black LTTE rebels in Sri Lanka leading to several important military successes. Only time can tell whether globally, the Black race will survive into the next millennium.6 I am confident that it will.
Re: Are Pakistanis Brown?
aray bhai camera charge hua ya naheen?
and u have no digital pics, what is this? 1993?
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I was so gori chitti till I set my feet on the holy land of micky and mini :(
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The Indian Cricket team is generally filled up with the more richer people as the labourers would not have the time or money to play cricket. So cricketers are not a good example for India in this way.
Now you are just talking crap.
You mean the economic status of a person determines whether he will be short/tall/fair/dark.
For what is it is worth, there are a number of players who have represented India who come from very modest backgrounds. Munaf's parents were reported to have bought their first TV after he got selected in the Indian side.
Not that the above info is of any relevance to the argument.
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Thats Me. I am in my pajamas but you get the Idea. 
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Nice! :D
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Man, you look more Indian than me. Sorry if that’s not what you wanted to hear.
I can’t believe you said all that uncomplimentary stuff about Indians. *Mirror mein to pehle dekh liyaa hotaa.. *
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please post a pic of yourself
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I am BROWN. Have no problems with it. And I did not start this thread.
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merc i would not have confused you for an indian.
I pulled up images of indian people from google, and compared.
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&q=indian+people
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so u are saying u dont look indian? in your view what does an indian look like 
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ah ha.....
I thought so
Man your response has been textbook
I post a pic and then you say the opposite of what I intended to hear
I challenge you and you say you are proud of who are
Well good for you:D
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Aray bhai hum kalay nahin gundumi hein.
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aray bhai, mograkali said she was kali so I wrote that, it was an old song.
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See ....I have no axe to grind here.
I am just stating facts which is :
Based on the picture posted by mercenary2K, if I saw him on the street, I would definitely think he was an INDIAN.
Note to Mercenary2k : Are you sure , you are even a Kashmiri ? I have Kashmiri friends and they are much fairer skinned. Again, please do not take it personally. Just stating facts.
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Yeah I know the song. Help required though in the matter of my passport might be taken away. hehe
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I post a pic and then you say the opposite of what I intended to hear
I challenge you and you say you are proud of who are
Challenge Me ? Wow...are we playing a "I am more handsome than you" game now.
*Bhai....*you started this thread with a question...I gave you my answer.
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anyways merc the title of your thread was "are pakistanis brown" i think we may have to define brown.
I think pakistanis are light brown, dark borwn, olive, white, and the ratio varies by diff ethnic backgrounds.
I think the same holds true for Indians too, but the ratios are probably more skewed towards the shades of dark brown especially in south. In general you can tell indians from Pakistanis, I would say in my experience there are probably 10% or so which I cant tell, but most of the time you can tell. It may be however attributed to clothing and mannerisms as well and not just looks.