are they
yes a girl is allowed to have girl as friends and a boy is allowed to have boy as friend, who prohibits that?
May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right
i mean for love. is a boy allowed to love a gal at a young age
what do you personally think?
what do you think, Islam allows or not?
May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right
No but if u do nikaah with her then there’s nothing wrong with it.
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Ay Watan hum hain teri shama key parwanon mein. - Oh, Country you are the candle around which we, your lovers, hover.
Islam advises against private mingling of the opposite sexes (unmarried couples) and teaches watchful segregation.
You don't have to data a person several years to figure out if you would like 'em as a life partner. Actually the divorce rate in countries with such practice is much higher.
Anyway, Pristine bhai opened a good thread about "selecting one's spouse" but I donno why not many people participated in it.
well my family will kill me if i had one but some muslims in england say its a free country and there family dont say **** . they even have christian as there love which is abit to over the top but i think haveing a muslim is ok
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i think haveing a muslim is ok
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Brother, what's wrong is wrong. Just because you happen to have a Muslim girl friend or you choose to have a Muslim girl friend doesn't mean the relationship automatically becomes acceptable in Islam.
According to our religion (Islam), it's worng to have gfs/bfs.
"I put my trust in Allah, my Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He has a grasp of its forelock. Verily, my Lord is on the straight path. (The truth)"
(11:55-56)
"...Indeed my prayer, my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allaah, the Lord of the worlds" (6:162)
It would depend on what the relationship is all about.
If you're indulging in anything sexual, or even minute physical contact...then the relationship is not approvable.
But, there is nothing wrong with having friends of the opposite sex, and falling in love with one of 'em. Islam does not advocate only arranged marriages...love marriages and arranged marriages are both permitted as long as the groom and bride are satisfied with the rishtaa. The approval of parents has been debated on gupshup b4, that's an entirely different topic.
I know plenty of folks (quite common in college MSA's and MYNA, type of organizations actually) who "group-date". This involves a group of girls and guys going out somewhere for recreation, no physical contact, no getting too close or personal, just some wholesome good fun.
If dating/courtship is what leads to marriage in western tradition, there are other ways to arrive at marriage thru love also. I mean, what's wrong with falling in love with a friend? Or getting to know someone you are interested in thru conversation? You dont need to go on a date, a date as defined by youth today (ie. dinner, a movie, and some good old foreplay).
My opinions might apall some folks. Keep in mind my statements are reflective of what i have learned at my Islamic School and knowledgable elders who happen to just hold some solid degrees in religious studies.
well...there is NO such religion called 'muslims'. muslims are believer of Allah and his last prophet Mohammad (SAWS)...and follower of islam!
and i don't think we can relate 'love' to bf/gf, do u think?
and its obvious that is haram, and it is also Good for Us!!
~yeh noor ke sholay uthtay hain, mera hee dil garmanay ko
jo bijli ufak main chamki hai, chamki hai mere taRpanay ko~
Apnay akailay pan ka main kis say gila karoon
Jis ko bhi murh kay daikha woh tanhayOon maiN hay~
yar tum log bhi na bass....... kuch soch samagh kar topic rakha karo ........ aik to topic rakhnay walay ooper se os par is tarah k topic ko dil par le kar jawab denay walay
is ka karwa jawab ye hai k if someone has ur sister as a girl friend and he does all those things with her which u want to do with someones sister what will u thin and behave !!!!!! and if ur answer is positive then ........... ALLAH HAM SAB KI HIFAZAT KARE... PAKI BHAEE FAJAR PARH LAIN KION K TIM EHO RAHA HAI SEE U
Not to deviate from the topic too much, but I have always seen a clear difference between the religious interpretations provided by scholars residing in muslim countries and those residing in western countries. Its not to say that scholars living in the western countries are too liberal or that their counterparts in Saudia or Pakistan are too conservative, but apparently those who are not living in the west lack an appreciation for the lifestyle here, and continue to give rulings which seem “One Size Fits All”.
I am almost 100% sure, that if you ask a muslim scholar in Pakistan or Saudia or Egypt, they will consider the above activity as haraam too.
Re: question of bf/gf for the intent to spend time together and to find out if they are suitable as a future spouse… on the face of it, it seems wholly inappropriate. If the intent is to have a good time, then it is recommended that you stick with folks of your own gender and do wholesome activities.
If the intent is to find a spouse, then Click Here](http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum13/HTML/005054.html)
Ofcourse, this is according to Islam. Our responsibility is to provide you with information. You have to make up your own mind and do what you think is beneficial. Those who are intent to create mischief will not be deviated. As always, Allah is the only one who can guide us to the right path. Ameen.
i deal with it in a very simple way, it is prohibited in Islam for a girl to be with a non-mehram in a place where nobody else can see them…or if the Mehram of the girl is not present. It is usually said that if a boy and girl are in the situation where they are alone the third is satan.
But i don’t believe in total segregation..because i’ve seen ppl become desparadoes..i believe if there is healthy interaction between them then there is nothing wrong…BUT do boy friends and girl friends follow this…of course not so it goes without saying that it is foolish to trust guys before u r married to him
Are you blaming the guys for it ???
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** but apparently those who are not living in the west lack an appreciation for the lifestyle here, and continue to give rulings which seem "One Size Fits All".
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I disagree.
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Kya baat ki hai Buttjee !! Hum to aap kay deewanay ho gaye
Just out of curiosity. Those who think "mixing" / "mingling" is allowed, please read the Quranic verses below and tell me if opposite sex mingling together still do satisfy Allah SWT's commands:
[24.30] Say to the believing men that they should **lower their gaze **and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
[24.31] And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should **draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty **except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss
May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right
Changez, the two ayas you gave here -- do not say that men and women cannot have social interaction...it just says that a woman should guard her physical features from being highly noticed by a man, and that you really should not be gazing into one another's eyes when talking...
it does not say "thou shalt not exchange words or ideas with each other"
of course you can have GF/BF its perfectly normal,,many Asains,,particularly men are growing up to mentally and socially inept,,Their is a great deal wrong with the Asain community,,males and females do not know how to express themselves,,many of the social issues are swept under the carpet,,of course having relationships is normal,, Also this creates desperados,,,relationships go on but they are almost perversely hidden and covered up,
There are better ways of conducting a conversation, dont you think?
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