Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
Yes you are right. If they tell you to do something which is against Islam, then you should not listen and should rather advice them and if they do not understand at that specific moment, then try not to talk back because when we are angry at anyone, the decisions often taken are whispers of Shaitan. Allah (Azzu Wajal) values parents greatly in Quran and he mentions in many places "the mother who carried you for 9 months".........."the mother who bore pain for you" etc etc.........I know it's hard for us ('us' meaning people like me in general, not you or anyone else) to understand this but we will understand this when we have our own kids and when the time repeats itself.
As for acting mature, then that should always be looked as a positive thing rather than negative because maturity does not occur at specific age, a 16 yr old teens can sometimes act more mature than a 25 yr old person. An example is Usamah (R.A - the Son of Zaid)....When his father Zaid (R.A) died in another land...Muhammad (S.A.W) chose his son Usamah to lead the Army. He was what, like only around 17 at that time. Many senior sahabas were concerned and objected by saying that an experienced person should rather replace Usamah....but you can see from here that a person can be mature even at young age and it is not a bad thing. Being mature at young age does not mean that you cannot enjoy life and/or play around the way you normally would at that age :)
Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
Hareem :-There's an extent to which I would obey my elders. If they expect me to do something which I know that my religion doesn't, then why should I obey them? **
**Yes, I fear Allah, and because of that I respect my elders.
yes, you are right as hUM-HAIN-lajawab and cricketplaya has said.
Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
if elders want to continue sticking to their assertions that the younger generation is worse than their generation in terms of manners etc, then please remind them that it is the ill planning wrong priorities, and doings of their generation as a whole that did that, in addition ot ineffective parenting.
if a 9 year old is rude, how did that happen? where did he pick it up from, ... other 9 year olds, TV shows (presumably not produced by other 9 year olds)
so tell em, go ahead, blame the younger generation and kids. IN doing so they are only accepting responsibility of their ineffectiveness and the messed up priorities of their generation that created the atmosphere which then impacted kids in a way that they turned out the way they are which the elders are ranting about.
Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
if elders want to continue sticking to their assertions that the younger generation is worse than their generation in terms of manners etc, then please remind them that it is the ill planning wrong priorities, and doings of their generation as a whole that did that, in addition ot ineffective parenting.
if a 9 year old is rude, how did that happen? where did he pick it up from, ... other 9 year olds, TV shows (presumably not produced by other 9 year olds)
so tell em, go ahead, blame the younger generation and kids. IN doing so they are only accepting responsibility of their ineffectiveness and the messed up priorities of their generation that created the atmosphere which then impacted kids in a way that they turned out the way they are which the elders are ranting about.
See where that line of argument gets you :)
If a kid can bring up that argument, that means he is not ill-mannered. Anyways we shouldn't as kids blame our parents. Just listen to the parents and take the good and avoid the bad.
Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
bachey dheet hon ya pagal hon.........you def. dnt know how they will turn out :p
they might be really rude to some point......but then again you gotta see WHY they are so rude.
ok leme give an example :)......the only time i will/was really really rude was when people wouldn't leave my mum alone......i stood up for her because i knw and i want to be her support.....they would say im batameez and dheet and what-not.......at the end of the day i know what they said was what a dheet would say, especially to a woman who is older then themselves :p
we all aren't batameez you knwo.......some adults are very uptight aswell.
Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
Yes, kids these days are increasingly becoming more and more batameez. That is why I ask all the parents to force their kids to behead a grown man every once in a while to keep them in order. Spanking just doesn't work anymore!
Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
**HHL- Good post. I understand everything about respecting and obeying parents as such but in our (my) society it doesn’t just end there. If it was just my parents who were telling me to do stuff which I knew they were doing with my best interests at heart then I would totally be fine about that, and I am. Personally for me the bigger problem is when extended family gets involved. In my case that’s like uncles, grandparents etc and although I feel that I do respect them, inside of me I’m fighting this greater jihad. Half of the things that I have to sit through and listen to long lectures from my grandmother for exapmle just really agitate me. Especially when she’s telling me stuff which is not relevent to me. I try so hard to remain calm but I guess I need to work on the patience part ** Why can I not just listen to my parents and learn lessons from the Qur’an and Hadiths? I do that already and so I don’t want other people to come and annoy me. I guess I’m coming across as a prime example of a batameez kid But please try and understand!!!
Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
i know right! call me dheet or batameez or whatever you want, but i would only lissen to my mum and what she has to say…i dnt need my uncles and aunties tellin me what to do as they need to sort their own kids out first…they cant call me batameez when their kids are so batameez
Re: Are kids today more ill-mannered than they were in previous generations?
well kidz cant b BORN ill mannered
it all jus dependz on the environment they grow up in , their friends , n most important........wat the PARENTZ teach em
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