Arabification of Pakistan and Pakistani culture:

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Re: Arabification of Pakistan and Pakistani culture:

@Jolie

I totally disagree. Which part of Pakistan you hail from? Let people who actually live in the country paint the real picture! It makes no sense for sense of expats to take offence when Pakistanis set the record straight for their country. All hell breaks loose here when a stupid old worthless Pakistani tries to make a sweeping judgement (God forbid) about Amreeka. All Auntiyaan and kids go berserk.

I haven’t seen any such phenomena in Pakistan. Words like InshAllah, MashAllah have always been part of Urdu language (surprise surprise Urdu the language has taken awful lot of vocabulary from Arabic…shock horror the Urdu language script is a derivation of Arabic script).

Just because back in the days, there was no internet, whatsapp, Facebook, Twitter, mobile phone to see and record those words on daily basis, doesn’t mean those words were not used! Pretty naive to assume that.

The phenomenon of Arabisation of Pakistan the country is laughable and is nothing but crass, bitter, aggressive politically motivated exaggeration. It often comes from people who don’t even live in the country! Yet they have the audacity to make such sweeping remarks about a culturally, ethnically, lingually, religiously, geographically and environmentally diverse country of 180 million people.

Talk about Arabisation of Muslim communities and it is indeed a real phenomenon and I can write a whole book on it. Part of the reason behind such change is due to bunch of confused inferiority complex ridden Asians who have turned the word ‘desi’ into such a pejorative term to the point that young generation don’t think it’s ‘cool’ to have any association with culture, so they tend to vouch for pan Arabism to fit into the larger Muslim community of the West.

The recent example from UK: An ordinary Bengali Moulvi being called ‘Shai-ekhhh’ by fellow Bengalis, Indians and Pakistanis. However, In Pakistan, words like Qari Sahab, Moulana Sahab, Mufti Sahab etc are still commonly used for clerics, not Shai-ekkhhh.

Pretty much always agree with whatever you have to say on the politics forum. You’re usually very clued up but I’m afraid you have your eyes closed on this one.

Pakistani’s - in Pakistan and abroad - do look at Arabs with lovey dovey eyes. Not sure whether you live in Pakistan or how long you have lived there but I’m fairly certain I’d have you beat on that account. Even if I don’t, I was born in Pakistan, I grew up in Pakistan and I’ve spent (and spend) enough time in Pakistan to have an idea of how society has changed and is changing - at lower, middle and upper class levels, especially over the past decade or so and especially for people my age. I know exactly how diverse Pakistan is, thanks. You don’t need to be condescending and try to educate me about my beloved country.

Pakistan is still for the most part a very religious country - people associate Arabs with religion. I’ve seen it in so many mosques, in Pakistan and abroad. People think just because Arabs are descendants of the prophets they are some holy deities above and beyond us mere mortals. The way people dress, the way people talk, the stupid divisive views they hold - a lot of it comes from Arabs. Come on, you’re very politically aware, I’m sure you know exactly what I’m talking about. We’ve always had nutcases in Pakistan but the surge of hate views and crime has exponentially increased over the past decade and a half, for a variety of reasons, a big part of which are Arabs and their influence, on a number of levels.