Arab Tablighis

Re: Arab Tablighis

Peace brother vroom

I think I’m going to take another approach with you … Perhaps you will understand my position.

Now, in Shaykh Hamza Yusuf’s audio translation on Sidi Ahmad Zarruq (RA)'s Poor man’s book of guidance … It states that there comes a point when a position is taken, but if there is a difference in opinion about that point then that is not cause for takfir, so long as the opinion is taken by an authority and is based on evidence. The layperson is not allowed to do takfir or deem something kufr unless it is EXPRESSLY kufr … So I have emboldened the words above … You say that sometimes say “such and such a thing is kufr … When it is” … But you need to also provide the source of that … It is not good enough to post an ayat or Hadith … Because then we are stuck again about what is behind the Hadith or ayat and whether our interpretation is valid. You need to show me that you have authority ('ijaza) to say the things you say … From your shaykhs. Are you an 'alim yourself?

My teachers forbid us from discussing matters of faith with others in such settings and require us to encourage finding common ground and understanding instead … At best I am allowed to say that such and such is your understanding, and I have a different one … But I cannot say “you are close to apostasy” … If you want to say that about me … Then I seek refuge in Allah (SWT) to protect me from the fitnah of your words … You say things so blatantly without any fear as if you are certain of a matter … It could be that such an attitude will earn you something of misguidance and He may send me your hasanaat … So be careful please in how you address the hearts of people.

If you have a matter that deserves to be known then please share it and provide your references and I shall study it and take it onboard inshaAllah … But please, give me room to differ if I have counter-evidence that satisfies my own heart and mind … For we are not sent here to convince one another of our truths … Are we? We are here to be guides and treat each other amicably … Knowledge is supposed to make us better people … So if we cannot see how your knowledge has made you a better person then we will move away from your knowledge and it could be that you might have something that is true, but your attitude may deprive us of taking it and Allah (SWT) Knows your heart and mine … Do we want to win an argument or arrive at the truth? I pray that Allah (SWT) puts the truth on your tongue and not mine so that I can submit to it … Ameen … (That is the Qawl of Imam Al-Shaafi) …