Re: April 15th anti-fanaticism rally in Karachi
If Altaf were to be killed, the reaction from mohajirs would be none too good. That's why.
Re: April 15th anti-fanaticism rally in Karachi
If Altaf were to be killed, the reaction from mohajirs would be none too good. That's why.
Majority of them will take a sigh of relief!
Re: April 15th anti-fanaticism rally in Karachi
How can Altaf Husain and his supporters and their likes can decide what Fascism or Extremism is while their own hands are covered with the Blood of hundreds of Innocent Muslims of Pakistan and their guardianship of Ghunda Gardi, Bhatta Khori, Robberies and all kinds of crimes especiall in Karachi?
Today under MQM’s governance, Karachi is the most Horrible City with highest crimes rates, their Jahil Laloo Kheti Panwaari Nazims and inefficient people are looting the state funds replacing their Bhatta-Mafia and at the same time they have let all the criminals at lose here in Karachi. On average their are more than 800 street crimes per week, even girls and ladies are not safe, they are looted at gun points.
Where is the writ of Law in Karachi?
And they talk about Jami’ah Hafsah?
They talk about Jami’ah Hafsah because their students apprehended those Prostitutes who are the Fairies for MQMian criminals and who rule the hearts and minds of the so called Moderate and Enlightened people.
Who doesn’t know that the elite class spends its nights with the same prostitutes whose likes were caught by students of Jami’ah Hafsah.
Why wouldn’t MQM-Altaf speak against Shari’ah and Hudood of Allah while he himself is an Adulterer who dishonoured a number of ladies in Abbasi Shaheed Hospital etc?
And if Altaf succeeded to collect a good mass of Karachi’ites then this is not because all those attendants understood what Shari’ah is, instead they gathered on his call because of their ignorance and blind faith in Altaf, as the same people don’t gather into the streets against Street Crimes, Abductions, Rapes, Brothels in the city, Sewage-Mixed-Water-Supply, Electricity Load Shedding, Unnecessary breakage of Roads to make money (Khaancha) and loads of other issues.
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I was never a fan of AH but this is the first positive step I see from any of political parties against Jamia Hafsa terrorists.
To thieves and culprits, the Police is the Terrorist. Isn't it?
Those who sleep with Aunty Shamim and her likes of Prostitutes, must call those terrorists who want to establish Divine Rule of Law in this country.
Jami'ah Hafsah people are terrorists because they want that Shari'ah which stones to death Rapists and Adulterers and cuts off the hands of thieves.
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lol, only the Karachi Police under Naseerullah Babar kicked the hell of your Commandos and Ghundas out from Karachi and Sind and now you are happy to collect ignorant fools in streets?
The great US and the Crusade-Allies haven’t been able to stop Mujahideen in Iraq and Afghanistan and you dream the Mujahideen of Pak Army can stop them in Wazeeristan or Islamabad?
Re: April 15th anti-fanaticism rally in Karachi
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And if Altaf succeeded to collect a good mass of Karachi'ites then this is not because all those attendants understood what Shari'ah is, instead they gathered on his call because of their ignorance and blind faith in Altaf, as the same people don't gather into the streets against Street Crimes, Abductions, Rapes, Brothels in the city, Sewage-Mixed-Water-Supply, Electricity Load Shedding, Unnecessary breakage of Roads to make money (Khaancha) and loads of other issues.
Ok i agree street crimes are on the rise and karachites are the biggest sufferers. but the other problems you mentioned are all over pakistan especially the big cities for example Land Mafia of lahore and by the way known to everyone who is the biggest beneficiary there,biggest brothel of pakistan is in lahore,kite flying and its hazards loss of lives and money,Neglectiong the Old city a lahori will certainly agree that there is no development in the old city area,loadshedding,unsafe water,rape.I mean one cant single out karachi for crimes only and mqm for bad governence.
Frankly Mqm cant be justified for its past it might be wrongfully accused in some cases but its a fact that there is criminal element in the mqm.But my point is why only mqm??why not al badr and al shams thunder squad of jamaat???
And on the issue of rally i think it was definitely a positive step from the party.
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Frankly Mqm cant be justified for its past it might be wrongfully accused in some cases but its a fact that there is criminal element in the mqm.But my point is why only mqm??why not al badr and al shams thunder squad of jamaat??? .
Because nobody tortured, killed as much, on the same scale as the MQM. No party turned city streets into rivers of tortured blood like the MQM did.
And crucially, no one was funded and used by India to hurt Pakistan, like the MQM.
As for the 'rally', just another stunt by ILLtaf
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Because nobody tortured, killed as much, on the same scale as the MQM. No party turned city streets into rivers of tortured blood like the MQM did.
And crucially, no one was funded and used by India to hurt Pakistan, like the MQM.
As for the 'rally', just another stunt by ILLtaf
How many al shams and al badr killed in bangladesh(east pakistan)???
On one hand people say that MQM is the b team of army on the other supported by india. so who was/is supporting mqm.ISI or raw.I think CIA ab mossad na kahna
By the way all the nationalist parties are accused of being indian agents.Even your beloved PPP was accused of being anti pakistan in the past.yaad aya kuch
Some of the leading NGOs based in karachi supported the rally like APWA and business action forum supported it
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How many al shams and al badr killed in bangladesh(east pakistan)???
On one hand people say that MQM is the b team of army on the other supported by india. so who was/is supporting mqm.ISI or raw.I think CIA haina
By the way all the nationalist parties are accused of being indian agents.Even PPP was accused of being anti pakistani in the past.yaad aya kuch
Some of the leading NGOs based in karachi supported the rally like APWA and business action forum supported it
I have never heard any reasonable people in any significant number say PPP,PML etc are Indian agents. Corrupt, yes, not Indian.
They certainly don't have Indian trained terrorists, and never tried to break away from Pakistan like MQM did, until Gen.Babar taught them a lesson.
As for Bangladesh, yes Army killed thousands, no doubt...but we are talking about political parties, a differnt topic.
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I wont justify all the activities of mqm as i have mentioned before that there is criminal element in the mqm but it is in all the parties.
But why cant you guys admit that mqm MNAs MPAs ministers are all middle class not from a fuedal background like other parties.you dont have to be rich to be a member of parliament like other parties although jamaat and nationalist parties do have middle class politicians in their ranks
General babur should be hanged for his crimes and his involvemnet in thousands of innocent killings.many of those killed didnot belong to any party
I dont know which party is the most patriotic.jaamat who was against the creation of pakistan???PPP whose leader who played a key role in the separation of east pakistan???or the raw agents mqm??
Unfortunately no party has served in the best interest of pakistan
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I wont justify all the activities of mqm as i have mentioned before that there is criminal element in the mqm but it is in all the parties.
yes there is,but not on the same enormous scale as the MQM, that is the point
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What happened after Naseerullah Babar terminated Altafi-Terrorism in Karachi, key Ghundas of Altaf were kicked off, but nothing happened; MQM was breathing miserably after Naseerullah Babar's action till Musharraf, the gutter snake appeared and married the gay man Altaf.
Well! This is not true dear! Mushraaf tried his best to keep MQM at bay. They were forced to boycotty the local bodies elections in 2000-2001 through Moin Haider. As a result Jamat-e-Islami got the control of Karachi up to 2005.
In 2002 elections Mushraaf had to take in the MQM as well corrupt policticians of ML Q due to international pressure for restoration of democracy. Till 2002 this goverment with the help of educated and honest ministers was doing well by uprooting corruption and other things.
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To thieves and culprits, the Police is the Terrorist. Isn't it?
So you think every police officer is an angel? Is there no term as corrupt police officer?
Those who sleep with Aunty Shamim and her likes of Prostitutes, must call those terrorists who want to establish Divine Rule of Law in this country. Jami'ah Hafsah people are terrorists because they want that Shari'ah which stones to death Rapists and Adulterers and cuts off the hands of thieves.
Don't know about N.71 but me thinks terrorists are who grab lands, make illegal properties, threaten people to shut down their businesses, burn down properties, abduct not only women but a six months old child for prostitution allegation (yes allegation because they never gave any proof of prostitution), arm themselves with bambos and guns AND the cherry on the cake is threatening of suicide bombers.
But if you believe all of this is part of shariah, then of course they are not terrorists.
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Ok i agree street crimes are on the rise and karachites are the biggest sufferers. but the other problems you mentioned are all over pakistan especially the big cities for example Land Mafia of lahore and by the way known to everyone who is the biggest beneficiary there,biggest brothel of pakistan is in lahore,kite flying and its hazards loss of lives and money,Neglectiong the Old city a lahori will certainly agree that there is no development in the old city area,loadshedding,unsafe water,rape.I mean one cant single out karachi for crimes only and mqm for bad governence.
Frankly Mqm cant be justified for its past it might be wrongfully accused in some cases but its a fact that there is criminal element in the mqm.But my point is why only mqm??why not al badr and al shams thunder squad of jamaat???
Only MQM because, Pakistan Muslim League (Q League or PMLN or any offshoots of them), Pakistan Peoples Party etc don't have a Terrorist Leader as Altaf Husain is. In 1990s Karachi was showing much more the same picture as present day Baghdad is showing; 60 or more people have been killed in a day by MQM's Terrorists in Karachi. Their Bhatta-Mafia is not a hidden secret anymore. Do you know any Criminals as of MQM from any other political party?
I don't think you can see a single one like Altafi Terrorists.
Secondly, I am not concerned about Karachi's situation only, the whole of the Pakistan is an Unsuccessful State, but tell me who is responsible for the failure of this state?
Off course they are those who oppose Shari'ah i.e the likes of Altaf Husain, Benazir, Parvez Musharraf. Because it is not mullas who ever ruled Pakistan, it is only this Filthy Munafiqeen who call themselves Enlightened and Moderate.
I believe the only solution to this Cancerous Pakistan is a Bloody Revolution which would cut this Cancerous Part of the society which calls itself Seculars or Moderate and Enlightened.
We have been looted by these Munafiqeen for 60 years, they have destroyed our generations and kept us in hunger and ignorance, simply because that is how they can rule us.
Parvez Musharraf is shedding our blood and kicking our A.S.S.E.S because he gets dollars from his god-Bush for that. The same god-Bush has hired Altaful Munafiq and Benazirul Munafiqah to replace the present Half-Munafiq-Q-League.
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And on the issue of rally i think it was definitely a positive step from the party.
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They had a rally against those of Jami'ah Hafsah who haven't yet picked up Klashnikovs to establish Shari'ah, though if they did, they would set examples for others too to eradicate the Filthy-Kafir-Regime of Pakistan which harbours Kuffar and Munafiqeen like Benazir and Altaf; the former being the slave of Power and the later being the slave of Power of Lust.
Why didn't these Munafiqeen have a rally against the Injustice to poor Pakistanis at the hands of Filthy Secular Munafiqeen?
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Only MQM because, Pakistan Muslim League (Q League or PMLN or any offshoots of them),
Full of hatred and hatred post and nothing else! And with exagerration too!
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How many al shams and al badr killed in bangladesh(east pakistan)???
Well, this is not Bangladesh we live in, and there is no al Badr and ash Shams here in Pakistan, so talk about TODAY and talk about the Real World. Your beating about the bush doesn't change the fact that Altaf was the snake milk-fed by India in the past and now he is the Baboon of the Bush-Blair, as now a days he is paid to oppose Jihadi elements in Pakistan.
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On one hand people say that MQM is the b team of army on the other supported by india. so who was/is supporting mqm.ISI or raw.I think CIA ab mossad na kahna
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It is a fact MQM was planted by the Army to neutralize People's Party in Southern Pakistan, the same game this Filthy-Pak-Army has been doing in this country, looting our wealth for their luxuries and bed with prostitutes and throwing the whole nation into the hell of politics.
All institutions of this country are a joke, a way to suck the blood from the veins of the poor mass, this country has been built up on the blood of martyrs who lost their lives in 1947 and this country is standing still today on the grave of our freedom and peace.
I am sure Mr Jinnah was no different from Hamid Karzai and Nuri al Maliki who made this country for Secular Army Generals, Feudals and Filthy Politicians, after all his Muslim League had all nawabs and feudals to fool the nation.
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By the way all the nationalist parties are accused of being indian agents.Even your beloved PPP was accused of being anti pakistan in the past.yaad aya kuch
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There is no nationalist party as lower as MQM is to kick the a.s.s.e.s of their own people. MQM damaged Urdu Speaking community much more than anyone else.
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Some of the leading NGOs based in karachi supported the rally like APWA and business action forum supported it
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These NGOs receive their funds from Kafirs like Bush and Blair.
Don't they?
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Full of hatred and hatred post and nothing else! And with exagerration too!
I have the right to hate those who are the Enemies of Humanity and Peace. I can well hate these demons who haven't given us anything except blood, hunger, ignorance and Kufr.
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Till 2002 this goverment with the help of educated and honest ministers was doing well by uprooting corruption and other things.
I agree Musharraf was doing better till 9/11, it was the curse of Allah that made him destroy his image because he helped Kuffar's State Terrorism in Afghanistan and slaughter of innocent Muslims.
I believe Allah will punish him even in this world for the blood of innocent Muslims and Mujahideen which has covered his hands and uniform.
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But why cant you guys admit that mqm MNAs MPAs ministers are all middle class not from a fuedal background like other parties.
In fact MQM's MNAs go worse than feudals as they see power and wealth for the first time in their lives.
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General babur should be hanged for his crimes and his involvemnet in thousands of innocent killings.many of those killed didnot belong to any party
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Why only General Babar?
Why not Altaf Husain at the First Place?
Why not Parvez Musharraf for his crime to helping americans in slaughter of innocent Afghanis and Wazeeristanis?
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I dont know which party is the most patriotic.jaamat who was against the creation of pakistan???PPP whose leader who played a key role in the separation of east pakistan???or the raw agents mqm??
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Unfortunately, I have no hope from anyone in Pakistan, even religious political parties are nutcases, they have stupids like Fazlur Rahman.
This country will keep declining day by day, I am sure.
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Unfortunately no party has served in the best interest of pakistan
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I agree.