Appalling response from Muslim world

There has been hardly any big relief effort from Muslim nations …

Arab response to Tsunami seen as appalling

Washington: Many Muslims around the world have been appalled at the “silence and stinginess” of the oil-rich Arab countries when compared to the outpouring of generosity elsewhere in the world, according to Tarek Fatah, a progressive Muslim leader and television host based in Toronto.

In a statement, he said that whereas cash-starved countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh had sent their naval ships, doctors and armed forces personnel to help Sri Lanka and Indonesia, Saudi Arabia had tossed a $10 million cheque at those affected while Kuwait had come up with a paltry $2 million.

Fatah said, “The disappointment is not just because of the pathetic contributions by Saudi Arabia or Kuwait. It is compounded by the message being repeated ad nauseam in their mosques and media that the earthquake was a punishment from God for the sins of the people of South and South East Asia. The view that wanton behavior provoked the quake was the subject of Friday sermons in Saudi Arabia and of other religious commentaries in the kingdom. “Asia’s earthquake, which hit the beaches of prostitution, tourism, immorality and nudity,” one commentator said on an Islamist website, “is a sign that God is warning mankind from persisting in injustice and immorality before he destroys the ground beneath them”.

He cited a New York Times report that quoted Walid Tabtabai, a member of the Kuwaiti Parliament, as saying that the earthquake was not simply a natural calamity, but a message from God.

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“We believe that what occurs in terms of disasters and afflictions is a test for believers and punishment for the unjust,” he wrote in a column in the newspaper Al Watan.

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Fatah expressed astonishment that anyone would consider Tamil Nadu, Aceh, Sri Lanka, Somalia, the Islands of Nicobar and Andaman to be “beaches of prostitution, tourism, immorality and nudity. “What sick mind could come up with this description? The Kuwaitis and Saudi Islamists lecturing the world about morality is an outrage,” he added. He said the people of South Asia did not need self-righteous sermons but assistance. “Or is it that in the eyes of most Kuwaitis and Saudis, the dead belonged to the despised underclass who live as fourth class citizens in the Gulf States.** “Dark skinned Indian, Sri Lankan, Indonesian; truck drivers, cooks and maids; all children of a lesser God in the eyes of these Islamists of the Gulf,” **he said.

In mosques across the United States, more or less the same message is going out to the Muslim community. While appeals have been made for generous donations to relief funds, the congregations are also being told that the tsunami was “azab-e-Ilahi” or the wrath of God for the sins of those who were hit. Such calamities, they are being told, warn us to turn our back on ungodly ways and repent for our past misdeeds. khalid hasan

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_6-1-2005_pg7_51

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After blaming Jews for 9/11 now some are blaming US for earthquake and tsunami

Islamists on Net blame US for tsunami destruction

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13643663

Islamists have had no trouble identifying the culprit in the tsunami disaster, using websites to blame the United States for the deaths of nearly 1,46,000 people in the earthquake and tidal waves that struck Asia.
“America got wind of the catastrophe before it occurred. The State Department, the Pentagon and the American naval base on the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia were alerted before the destructive earthquake,” wrote one internet user under the name ‘al-Madhri’. Killer wave hits Asia
Claiming to cite an article by a Canadian academic, the writer accused Washington of ‘not having alerted the authorities of the affected countries, which could have saved tens of thousands of innocent lives’. Discuss: Islamists are being silly in blaming US for the havoc

As to why the United States would have refrained from preventing a disaster on this scale if it could, ‘al-Madhri’ said: “The Americans don’t care who or how many die. All that matters to them is to continue to rule the world.”

Some Islamists, for whom the Internet has become the main outlet to air their views, hailed ‘the annihilation of the Diego Garcia base’. “The whole world is wondering about the silence of the American government on the fate of this base, situated at the core of the catastrophe and from where B-52 bombers took off to bomb our Muslim brothers in Afghanistan and Iraq,” one wrote.

“It’s not possible they were all tourists,” added the internet user. “Certainly we cannot blame the United States for the quake which caused the tsunamis, but we have the right to be amazed by the eagerness of America to install all means of spying and early warning whenever it has the slightest suspicion about the presence of what it calls terrorists,” said Kuwaiti Islamist Hamed Abdullah al-Ali in an online article.

But Islamists continue to curse America, praying Allah to ‘strike it with many tsunamis to wash away the Black (White) House, Wall Street and all its inhabitants’. Many saw the fact that numerous mosques remained standing in stricken countries as a precursor of the victory of Islam.

“God struck the beaches of debauchery, nudism and prostitution,” said one internet user. “God warns humanity against perpetuating injustice,” wrote another, while a third applauded ‘the harbinger of the Islamic caliphate’.

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On the first post: Shameful.
On the second post: Expected.

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I guess all "Islamists" are not the same...

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Caption:
KARACHI, PAKISTAN: Pakistan's main Islamic fundamentalist party, Jamat-e-Islami (JI), activists pack relief materials in Karachi, 05 January 2005, for the victims of tsunami disaster in Sri Lanka. The number of people killed in Asia's tsunami disaster edged up towards 146,000 on 05 January, with bodies still being found on the Indian Ocean's devastated shorelines 10 days after the catastrophe. AFP PHOTO/Aamir QURESHI (Photo credit should read AAMIR QURESHI/AFP/Getty Images)

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yup..
however, there have been fundraisers in chicago for weeks, villa park just did a benefit dinner, ICC has been appealing at every prayer, not just on fridays to donate to any charity that is doing work there. PTV blocked out the entire prime time for a telethon.

now there are those political clowns, who will just find some reason to blast the west, but the words of those, or the lack of actions by some sheikhdoms should not marginalize the efforts average muslims are putting forth, in thw west and elsewhere.

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The first sentence is what is important in nicols_john first post;

"Many Muslims around the world have been appalled at the “silence and stinginess”"

I take this to mean many Muslims are giving on their own and leadership in Muslim countries would be better off run by Muslims of such sentiment rather than by the dictators who run them now.

Atlas Muslims have nothing to be ashamed of as these leaders’ actions do not represent many Muslims. Pakistan has stepped up, others should follow their lead.

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Pakistan was among the first countries to offer assitance/aid to the neighboring India, the day the tsunamis hit the eastern coast of India.

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The title should be read as 'Appalling response from Arab world'...Pakistan was one of the first country to offer aid to Sri Lanka..

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Exactly. Such tragedies show us that good goes beyond, nationality, race, or religion.

People don’t stop to think “is it okay to help this person, is it allowed?” They just do it.

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utd

the amounts some of the sheikhdoms are providing is negligible considering that is about how much they blow on a single trip to europe.

UAE is the only one who was quick to send teams and has pledged a decent amount.

One interesting thing is that in one story I read that worldwide pledges for Iranian earthquake were close to $1B but so far only $17M have really been given.

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india and pakistan were the first to come with aid to the se asian countries... these arabs are all racist... for all the tall talk of ummah etc. why didnt they come to help indonesia.. agreed india, sri lanka and thailand are kuffar but what abt indonesia? they are a muslim country.. shows how narrow minded and screwed-up these guys are...

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It’s also kind of screwed up and narrow minded to limit charity to only Muslim countries, even if Arabs are morally and racially superior.

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See Seminole..if god is selective in dispensing misery to certain people then why shouldn't we (god's lackeys and allout prostitutes) do the same? 100000 dead in Indonesia...last I heard it was the largest muslim country.

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its good to see saudis and the govt doing more.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Saudis streamed into a stadium to load bundles of clothes into trucks and stuff glass boxes with cash Thursday as the government launched a public campaign to help southeast Asian tsunami victims.

The stadium was the heart of a live national telethon that raised $67.4 million in 11 hours,

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The first and second posts are really twist-in-the stomach hilarious...trust Muslims to come up with explanations like THAT! But seriously, how can you 'blame' US for causing or not preventing such a gigantic natural disaster? That is plain stupid. As for this being a Divine act of punishment...well its still not having much effect on us Muslims...intead of taking this chance to help the poor victims there is bickering over who is giving more and cursing first world nations (who are helping) with similar fate.

Yes, it sticks out like a sore thumb that Arab nations are not helping but its not like they are not doing anything at all...at least give them some credit. And hats off to Pakistan who were one of the first to lend a heartfelt lending hand and making a purely humanitarian effort....although at some point it won't be much of a surprise if someone touts this as a political and bureaucratic move!

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Well, I don't think its a political move at all.I have gone out of my place quite a few times this week and it was so heartening to see camps being setup at various junctions/ roadsides in Karachi for the victims of Tsunami and these were established by Jamat e Islami, MQM and various other organisations. Remember Edhi foundation has already sent stuff on its own to Sri Lanka.
And no there isn't any such feeling that those are some low class, godless people who deserved God's wrath; the announcements and the calls taht were made and what i heard was that the people hit by the floods and earthquake are our brethrens and we should help them in their hour of need. ( so not all muslims are biased and consider themselves as superior to others).
Anyways, all the states are helping and its not good to quantify and compare their efforts in that regard.

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In today’s NYTimes there is a big article about how Indonesians are questioning Arabs and how their perception of Americans is changing now for better. It’s about time that terrorist sympathizers open their eyes to the reality.

:salam:

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I read from the papers that Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Turkey and some others which I don't remember have pledged to give a money.

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What I don't get..is competition to help.

Why does there need to be a competition going on?

Darnit ... That makes me mad.

People give what they can to help. There should be no competion in such.

Those that bring out such...

should be ignored absolutely.

Why brag?

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What is appalling is people pointing fingers at what little others are doing. It's called backbiting, on a very large scale. It's one thing to write to the government and ask them to do more, but its another to feel disgust when you dont even know whats really going on. People arent sure as to what governments really give, or people in the government personally give.

As a musilm you are not supposed to point fingers and say he is giving too little or too much. Because you dont know what people give secretly or openly. I know from personal experience that arabs are generous people, and I wont speak for all of them, but its just disheartening to hear muslims speak of others in this way. Just as people complained that the US gave too little too early on. Yes, wealthier people have an obligation to give more, this is an Islamic principle, but again, it doesnt have to be done in the open for everyone to know.

Amazing how people can write up articles as if they are actually there to witness the bank transactions/charity donations of arabs or those in the entire muslim world. This isnt a race to see who is more generous.

Feel free to disagree.