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women are suppose to dress modestly and not show the curvature of their figure

but where in the quran does it say that women are suppose to be covered from head to toe?

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I had lots of skinhead/BNP white supremacists in my class in high school and a few colleagues at work who were racist. The ones at school were kept in check nicely by the Paki bad boys but I had to be patient with the work colleagues and ignore their nastiness partly because I was far outnumbered being the only Paki/Muslim and partly because I knew I could say and do lots of nasty things to people when I’m angry but I’d feel really guilty when I cooled down, even if it wasn’t my fault, some learnt from my niceness and changed their behaviour towards me, others didn’t.

One incident I remember was about this man at work (they’ve made him redundant now and my manager took over his position), he would mock the way Pakis dressed, openly talked about how he can't stand them and every time I asked someone for directions to some place (at lunch) he would butt in and start giving me directions to the airport and tell me to catch the first plane back home, I would try laughing it off but the others in our group would join in with him laughing and jeering (even a fat woman who I considered a friend and fed Peshawari kebabs to every weekend), seeing me get pissed off they’d start being nice again “we’re only ‘avin a laugh cock, ur orite u”.

I didn't use to mind it at all during school, it didn't bring me down, it was accepted and normal, everyone hung around with their own kind and hated the other, South Asian Muslims were one group and Whites seperate, we never mixed (except the "untouchables" both white and south asian would hang together finding nobody to befriend from their own race). We never saw ourselves as British because the Whites were British and they hated us so we didn't want to be like them either, we were Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Gujaratis living in their country and would one day go "back home".. but now that I've matured and know it's not right to hate other races and I just want to live and let live and have a nice happy healthy lifestyle it really really gets me down when I expereince xenophobia, at first it didn't bother me at all, then I could handle it and remain calm and composed but nowww one of these days I think I'm just going to break down and it's getting worse and worse because it used to be thing like "Paki bstrds go home" which didn't get to us but now they target our religion which is sooo dear to us and it's even accepted because it's freedom of speech so now I don't think we can ever be comfortble here. I wish they just deport us all and pull out their forces out of all Muslim countries.

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If you read about Islamic history and how it spread, etc, you will find that muslims faced much worse than this in previous times. In times when torture, etc were quite rampant and accepted. One thing a muslim never does, is run. Run out of fear from others. We should only fear Allah.

Sometimes the Prophet (SAW) would send just one man to other lands to spread the message of Islam. And they were not welcomed or wanted, and some were tortured as word had spread that muslims were expanding. And several of them died, but they died for a good cause, they died having faith in their beliefs and convictions.

When you show others that you fear them you only put yourself down and your convictions and beliefs down. Then people who dont like you feel you have justified their racism, their beliefs about you and your faith, and ultimately they will think of you as a coward.

Because a lot of people can see that I am a muslim (due to my scarf) they do not hesitate to talk to me about Islam and muslims. One person at a time I get to explain my beliefs and show them that muslims in general are not terrorists at heart. I am grateful for having that opportunity here. I enjoy living in the United States and consider it my home. I will NOT assimilate and be just like my American friends because I adhere to my own values and obligations. I can learn to live side-by-side with them. And if they want to spit in my face when I walk past them, let it be. I will not take off my Islamic aura for them or anyone else. I do not feel that me and my practise of Islam only belongs in the middle east or Southeast Asia. They will not push me into a corner, because I am not a coward. My safety and my future childrens safety is in the hands of Allah, not the government or anyone else.

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:k:@Munni

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Assalamu Alaykum.

Wow, Mash-Allah, I am very happy to see that you stayed calm through this, bro. There will be times when you will be tested from Allah swt through these kufars. Replying her by slapping, cursing, and any other hostility would prove to her and the other peole around you that Islam is indeed a religion of terror, crime, etc. But you showed the best example of what a muslim is and what Islam promotes by giving her simple and polite responses. May Allah swt make it easy o all the muslims through this crucial time of test. Ameen.

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I wish I had been more polite. I didn't curse at her, but I sort of screamed at her when I told her to mind her own business.

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good point, and no where does it say one needs to do niqaab.

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TG, what you did was perfectly allright. Just ignore and remember the fact that not evryone is like that. I do not like Smurf's story however. I dont disrespect someone else's culture or religion and no one has a right to disrespect mine. My coworkers joked at times about me wearing my hijab too tight if i didnt hear them properly and some other things. And i had to step up and say that i dont appreciate this kinda talk, it makes me uncomfortable. I have taken some realy bad stuff in the past but i refuse to do so now. There are a lot of other things to joke about, someone's religion need not be a topic.

I was in Kyrgystan as part of an american team there, and went shopping with some girls, including a local who was also acting as our interpreter. While looking at some clothing, i was trying to find long, ankle length skirts and couldnt find any. That is a shame in itself since Kyrgystan is considered a Muslim country. Anyhow our interpreter goes, well you know what? You live in the US. YOu dont have to wear long skirts anymore or the hijab. And i jsut stared at her and said, i dont do it because my parents are telling me to. They arent here to see me now. Cant u tell i do it because i want to? She changed the topic after that.

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It's their choice!

If they want to put a paper boat on their head, it's their choice and more power to them. Isn't it a free country, O'champion of democracy?


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I wouldn't be surprised if more muslims were harassed/taunted in the west.

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As LI said, it's their choice. Beliefs are somewhat irrelevant if you look at it in this context. I don't know why it is so hard for people to believe and see that not all women are forced to wear it and cover themselves up. For many, it is a choice they gladly make.

That is what living in Canada is all about. Democracy, freedom, being able to wear what you want and not be harrased. Not anymore.

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hahahah im sorry but that just made me laugh! i take it u either havnt read the translation of the quran or failed to understand it!

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Same here,,, I think it gave everyone here a good laugh,,,
LOL

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I'm neutral in this case cause I think both parties are right. ^^

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Well.
next time if a woman say such a thing do that.
Tell her that "why don't you ask my wife if i am forcing her or not"
Then you go wait out side and let your wife explain that to that women that she wasn't forced.
And the reasons she wear burqa.

Trust me women do understand each other really well.

Yes after september 11 a white guy came upto me with the paper in his hand.
Pointing at the picture of wtc and all those horrible images.
I thought he wanted to share it with me so passed a smile think he does't know i was muslim.
then he said"you guys did that"

I kicked his a$$ people were laughing at him at the end.
when he told me "you have false religon. you are going to hell"
And I said "well i see you there then"

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The first thing that comes into my mind is insane, schizophrenia or something. I wouldn't let it affect me. I don't think the general public thinks the way that woman did. It was just one of those things. Forget about it.

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he mentioned her as old lady, you have to give respect to her age atleast, we are more cultured then the westerens
i think whatever he(Terrible guy) did is correct

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hmm.......

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:biggthumb :lajawab: keep it up and take care but things will not be same always

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after 9/11, around the univ campus, i was walking down the street when some goraa guyz started yelling at me ,, " Hey you osama, Go back to your country , you terrorist".

what else would i have done then to quitely pass by them.