Yeah, but I dont HAVE to identify myself as an Pakistani America. No one is forcing me to , I choose to. And if thats the way things work, then what are you so upset about?
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Same here. No one put a gun to my head to say I am mohajir, but due to situations beyond my control, I identify myself as a mohajir. I am not the one upset. I simply started a thread asking who else here is a mohajir. Is it a crime? What I got in return and what I had expected were questions of who, why, where are mohajirs.
Why can't I identify myself with whatever label I want. If you prefer Urdu speaking, then go ahead. But why is everyone getting defensive that I dared label mohajirs as well mohajirs. Do people get upset also when people identify Punjabis?
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Why can't I identify myself with whatever label I want. If you prefer Urdu speaking, then go ahead. But why is everyone getting defensive that I dared label mohajirs as well mohajirs. Do people get upset also when people identify Punjabis?
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No ones getting defensive as I see it. We just don't like the word Muhajir because it is out of context and out dated for the Urdu speakers. We can identify ourselves as whatever you want as long our loyalties lie for Pakistan-- your country and mine.
Same here. No one put a gun to my head to say I am mohajir, but due to situations beyond my control, I identify myself as a mohajir. I am not the one upset. I simply started a thread asking who else here is a mohajir. Is it a crime? What I got in return and what I had expected were questions of who, why, where are mohajirs.
Why can't I identify myself with whatever label I want. If you prefer Urdu speaking, then go ahead. But why is everyone getting defensive that I dared label mohajirs as well mohajirs. Do people get upset also when people identify Punjabis?
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Then whats the problem... Your all tense over having to call yourself a Mohajir, when you admit its you yourself that refer to yourself as such, and no one forced it upon you. So yes, I am a Punjabi, and proud to be one, and if you consider yourself a Mohajir, well then more power to you...:) Im not upset, but you seem to be.
No ones getting defensive as I see it. We just don't like the word Muhajir because it is out of context and out dated for the Urdu speakers. We can identify ourselves as whatever you want as long our loyalties lie for Pakistan-- your country and mine.
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Apparently he feels you HAVE to have a ladel in Pakistan. If his label says "Mohajir" and he is ok with it, then thats fine for him. I suppose "Urdu speaking" is more politically correct these days, but whatever they want to refer to themselves as is fine with me.
Maybe you should read the begining of the thread again. Super Pakistani, PT started by calling me an Altaf supporter, and everyone else wanted to know why they are not also mohajirs.
Well dont you have to define what a “Mohajir” is before asking everyone if they are one? Mohajir as far as I know isn’t an ethnicity, but a state of being… And if we go by the strict definition, then almost everyone here would be a Mohajir since most of their relatives came from some other parts. My ancestors are thought to have to come from Iran or some other part of India, maybe Kashmir, does that make me a Mohajir? Please give you definition of a Mohajir.
But to be fair, I think you do have a point. On the one hand everyone asks you what you are, since you have to have an ethnic identity. But the only one you can give them is the one they dont want to hear, since being a Mohajir is suddenly a “crime.” A classic case of identity crisis. As far as im concerned, you can call yourself whatever you want, you will still be a Pakistani in the end, (because what else can you be..Indian!?)
Every country needs a language that EVERYONE can understand. In Pakistan its Urdu, in India it SHOULD be Hindi/Urdu. How can you have a country where no one understands each other?
So are there different levels of MQM mohajirism? I hear some mohajirs put up pictures of Pir Sahab (Altaf Hussain) in their masjids.
Plus, I'd like to meet the 'mohajirs' who gunned down the four hindus at Sunshine Bakery in Karachi some odd years ago. What wrong did they do? They were just selling sweets and some kickass rus malai.