Any suggestions?????

I have got a friend I have known for ages, since college. She’s one of the girls that you would confide everything with, she’s understanding, intelligent, funny, fun to be around, a family girl, never does anything wrong, She has never been in a relationship, never had boyfriend even though she’s been asked out by many. She left college and went for further studies and MasAllah did very well and got great qualifications.

She’s got one older sister that got married at a very young age straight after she left school to her khalas sons after her khala constantly kept asking for her rishta for many many years. The cousin she got married to was like 10years older then her and turned out to be a right idiot. He treats her bad, treats her family bad and doesn’t appreciate that after so much time and her mums continues asking they gave the rishta to them.

To make matters worse, one day khala said to her sister that her mum came to them and gave the rishta to them, they never even asked for it.

Anyway going back to my mate, she’s one of those girls that are busy working and studying and living with her family and never interfered in anyone’s life or personal matters. However every step of life was a struggle for her, first her dad was always giving her brothers priority, sons were everything to him, his daughters were just something that he has to put up with for the sake of saving face in the world, he did not want anything to do with them, he wanted to get them married asap so that he would not have to see them day in day out that’s why he got her sister married straight after she left school. He did not want my mate to go to college or go into further education (university), but she did with the support of her mum.

Her brothers made her life hard for her but putting all sorts of ridiculous restrictions, not that she did anything bad anyway. Then older brothers got married, sisters in law made life hard for them but they still respected them as that is what they’re mum taught them, to respect others. She suffered for years, if not by her immediate family then by the extended family.

She passed driving test and couple of months later found some paper planted in one of the car seats, not knowing what it was, she gave it to her mum, who get them read and was worried for her as someone had left taveez in her car.

She did not believe in these things until her health became worse day by day and doctors did not know what it was.

Anyway as soon as one problem resolved another started. It got to a point where she is getting old now and not married, her mum is worried now as not being able to find a good rishta, her mum told her to find someone because her mum is scared of what happened with her older sister does not happen to her, even though she refused to this they eventually talked her round to finding someone herself.

She met this guy through a friend, she wasn’t attracted to him at first but got to know him and started to like him. She introduced him to her family and the guys family asked for her rishta. The girls’ family are from a stable so-called big khandaan where as the guys family are quite poor and still working their way up.

Her family did not have an issue at first as the guy is very well educated and thought he can make something of his life, they got engaged and she become more and more attached to him, and then the problem started again.

Her parents now are saying couple of months after the engagement that they don’t think he is good enough for her, as he’s from a poor background, his family background is bad (don’t know why they said that as they aren’t criminals) and allsorts of others things that are not even relevant.

She is now emotionally attached to him and very close to him and is getting pressured into breaking engagement by the whole family. She feels that she was first pressured into finding a suitable match for herself and now she is getting forced into breaking it.

She’s become an emotional wreck, doesn’t know what to do, who to talk to, she given up on life. She says Allah has not been fair to her, she’s so bad kismet that every time she does something right it backfires. She has lost faith in everything; she says she doesn’t know what she has done that she gets punished every time.

She looks at girls around her who do everything wrong and still get everything they want in life, but all she has ever wanted was a simple life, nothing much, even that seems to mush to ask now.

It’s come to a point that she has started to question Allah; she’s losing faith day by day. She been looking after her parents when they were extremely ill and bed ridden, when no one wanted to come near them, she was there for them, when the sons deserted them, she was there for them but she feels that still she is being punished.

All she ever wanted was to be loved and now she has got love from someone she can’t have that either. She was a head strong person, she never let anything get her down, but she now admits that it is getting too much for her.

She has stopped talking to friends, stopped socialising (she was the heart of any gathering no matter how much she was hurting from inside), she stays quite where ever she does or sits alone in corner (once she was the centre of attention).

Everyone has noticed this but she won’t talk to anyone about it. She feels she has been let down by every relation, betrayed and extremely hurt. I don’t know what to do. Can anyone give any suggestions? Have tried to tell her there are people out there in worse situations then this but I guess you have to be in her place to feel what she is feeling, nothing I say makes any effect. She just says I am ok, don’t worry about me and leaves.

I don’t expect any miracle remedy, but some suggestions on how to help her feel better about herself. Many thanks

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pls fix ur post. no one is gonna read it like this.

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Typical desi family. Sad.

Tell her to grow a pair and make her own decision as her family has already shown how much aqal they have. This guy may be poor but money comes and goes. Character lingers.

If he is a good person go for it. She and he can both work hard to
develop a comfortable life.

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I agree with PCG ... her family has clearly shown how capable they are ... so she might as well make her decisions on her own

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I said that to her, her belief was that she has never done anything wrong and always done everything to keep others happy and if exists he Allah will reward her for this, but now she even starting to have doubts about that. She says shes leaving it upto Allah to give her justice

but mijjy dear ... god helps those who help themselves ... u can not just pray everything away ... u have to take some action tooo

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True I totally agree with you, its hard to explain this to someone like her in her situation

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I kno and i understand what you are saying but i mean you have to tell her that she has to step up for herself and do wat she thinks is right ... cuz i think thats pretty much the only advice anyone can give her ... or she can suck it up and be miserable

Let's forget about her problems for now. Right now if she has actually said the above words that are taken from your quote. She has committed INFIDELITY. because she is objecting to Allah's will. So she quickly needs to repent from this statement and say Shahada again. Otherwise she's not a MUSLIM anymore.

Remember, if we are born muslims, it doesn't necessary mean that we will remain muslims forever. There are certain actions or words which can waste one's eman. So plz encourage your friend to repent and accept Islam again and avoid making such statements. Allah does not put anyone in anymore hardships which they can not bear.

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Barqun hunny ... listen you can not call anyone a non muslim or that they are infadels or wat not ... watever she said is between her and Allah and me and you are no one to judge her so please keep ur judgements to yourself ... thank you very much ... the poor grl is having a crisis and its pathetic that all u can do is dwell on minor details on how and wat she was complaining

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Tell her Allah has made her stronger with all the challenges that have been sent her way, and that this might very well be the reward - being with a nice guy for the rest of your life.

I haven't met this dude, so I can't say that he'd be a good match. He might be the roach that crawled out of London's sewer system, for all I know.

That's a pretty outrageous thing to say about someone you don't know. That's not how it works. And saying someone isn't a Muslim anymore has some pretty serious consequences...

"Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "When a person calls his brother (in Islam) a disbeliever, one of them will certainly deserve the title. If the addressee is so as he has asserted, the disbelief of the man is confirmed, but if it is untrue, then it will revert to him." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
Commentary: We learn from this Hadith that to call a Muslim a Kafir is strictly prohibited because if the one who has been called as such does not have the traits which makes him a Kafir, then the one who says it will be held Kafir.

Abu Dharr (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, "If somebody accuses another of disbelief or calls him the enemy of Allah, such an accusation will revert to him (the accuser) if the accused is innocent.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim

Abu Dharr (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, "When any Muslim accuses another Muslim of sin or of disbelief, the reproach rebounds upon the one who utters it, if the other person is not deserving of it.'' [Al-Bukhari].
Commentary: What this Hadith stresses is that one should never say about a Muslim that he is sinful (Fasiq) or disbeliever (Kafir) when he is not so. The reason is that in that case, one who says it, will be held Fasiq or Kafir. One should, therefore, strictly refrain from uttering such statements."

Mijjy - as for your friend...I think lots of people go through this type of crisis of faith, especially when they're going through some really rough times. As you said, there's no magical remedy. Just do what you're doing - be there for her, encourage her, keep talking to her. Until SHE is ready to pull herself out of the funk and start standing up to her family and make changes in her own life, nothing will happen. Allah DOES listen and he DOES help us...but as someone else said, we need to also help ourselves.

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Barqun- there was absoloutly no need for what you said. Its not up to you. Your not God. Your a HUMAN jus like us all. And we say things when were hurt or angry.

Back to the topic. I can totally understand her, Its weird and i dont get it, but people that do RIGHT, get bad luck ALL the time. I've seen it. And i have no answer for it.

All i can say is, shes been to university right? shes got a degree i presume. Tell her to get a career, Focus on that, Save up her money. And go. Her parents are jus messing up her life more n more by each day. I suggest she sticks to this guy, Like PCG said money comes and goes. Its so true. If she loves this guy, this guy cares for her like no other. Stay with him. They can work it out together. She needs to stand up to her parents and her family. And tell them WHAT SHE WANTS its her life.

You can still be a good girl, but still stand up for your self. Once she changes her attitude towards life, Life can only get better.

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I think she has suffered previously and deserves to be happy. Once you make a decision, stick to it. Finding someone you can truly love, respect and care is very rare. Her parents won't be around forever, neither will other people. So what if he from a poor background. Being rich does not add an iota to one's personality.

Personally speaking, if that was me I would not break the engagement and stick to the initial decision.

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^ i agree

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thats bad wots happened to her i hope inshllah she pulls through and all ends happily
this is all a test from allah, tell her to start praying more, speak to her folks, r even see some1 that can help her pull thorugh all the mess she is in.
i pray that she comes out of this happily n ends up marrying the guy she likes soo much
damn life can be so such a pain but if u have no1 else, u always havew allah watching over u 24/7.
tc
peaceout

tell ur friend that first of all she should wipe her tears..stop pitying herself and getting deeper into depression..go to mosque and do nikkah with her fiancee.her family doesnt like it then she can tell them to eat dust..

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Hey guys thanks for your suggestions. Just to update you all, I spoke to her yesterday evening and she has broken engagement, I tried but guess did not try hard enough. Thanks anyway!!

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Oh my God^^ wow. WHY?! Do keep us up-to-date would love to know the outcome now!

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I guess the the pressure just got to her so she gave in