Any Janjua's on Gupistan!!!!!!

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Not quite bro, Kallar began his rule from 843, which means actually that the 158 years is between 5 Shahs (between Kallar up to Jayapala 1001AD.) If we leave the last three (anandpal, tirlochanpal and BhimPal Shah) 25yrs till Bhimpal Shah's death.

Besides, the view of him being incorrect with the length of kings is not just mine, but Dr Abdur Rehman's view also, who researched all of this strenuously in the late 70's into the 80's.

But I see that your main point is to correct the Kabul issue (because my last post has already stated that Kandahar was recorded as the country of the Rajput. ) But it is clearly recorded though that Kabul was under Bhimpala's control when Alaptagin began to threaten his Kingdom and overtook Kabul and defeated the Lawiks. Bhimpala had sent a larger army with the Lawik and they ousted the Turk new king Abu Ishaq Ibrahim from Kabul, in 963AD (last 2 dynasties of the Sahis, p127/128)
It was a year later that Jayapal Shah took over from Bhim Dev'a death.

Which part of this are you disputing exactly bro?

Im not sure if your book ''The Afghans'' Olaf Caroe, will go into as much detail as some works regarding this dynasty.

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The confusion resolved. Hindu Shahi dynasty had been established by Kallar the Brahmin, but later, in 964 AD, Raja Jiapala Janjua wrestled it from the descendants of Kallar. True, there was Hindu Shahi presence in upper Kabul Valley. Sabaktagin, with the help of his Khalj and Afghan armies, defeated Jiapala at some point in Laghman driving him out of Kabul Valley. This must have happened before 997 AD because in that year Subaktagin died succeeded by Mahmood of Ghazna.

The decisive battle between Mahmud and Jaipala occured somewhere near Peshawar.

Here is a link:

http://www.answers.com/topic/shahi

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Thats cool bro.:)

The Peshawar battle is right, he committed suicide after his defeat. That reference link is quite detailed actually.

To be honest, your knowledge is pretty good. I'd be really honoured if I can pick your brain as a reference point for some Afghan issues in later course?

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Yes, why not! History has always been a fascinating undertaking for me...

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Excellent. Thanks for that bro.

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Bro, the book you've mentioned regarding the Tanolis, can you by any chance get hold of a copy for me? Money isn't a problem, the book itself has some good info about the later Tanoli generations who fought with Ahmed Shah Abdali and later fought the Sikhs. The origins are quite obscure (let alone his explanation for it) but the later info is quite good I'm told.

Can you help?

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Janjua's were definitely not jats, though some anthropologists and historians do claim they are from the same stock originally.

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^ We don't consider Hindus/Sikhs to be either Rajputs, Jats or even Gujjars- they are all kafirs!

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Bro give it a break. We are better than that. We've had some decent Indian people on this thread talk constructively, so please give them some respect.

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Bro Rajput isn't necessarily a racial thing. Some Aryan khandaan's started, absorebed all sorts of noble ruling blood into their bloodline, regardless of race, which is why we have such a mixture.

People in Eastern Punjab also claim jut status to be higher than rajput, and in the western Punjab vice versa. At the end of the day, your actions speak higher than words. If your a true noble, both sides will lay their claims to you, lol.

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Rajputs are Insignificant in Indian Punjab, Haryana and even in Rajasthan. These places are dominated by Sikh and Hindu Jats.

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Rajputs are insignificant in Rajasthan and Sikh+Hindu Jatts are dominant there? You've obviously lost your mind. They are listed as a backward caste in Rajasthan, lol.

I'm sorry but this thread isn't about Rajputs in general, but Janjuas.

Muslim Jatts contribution to Pakistan has been great, and most groups/tribes enjoy a good relationship to make a success out of our nation, considering how young it is.

I do recognise your wierd tone though. Can you take your prejudiced anti bull**** elsewhere to another Hindutva site where they will give a damn? There's other Indian users here who are a lot more civil in tone than you and they appear well liked and respected.

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Sorry to annoy you, but I'm afraid that Rajasthani Rajputs these days have almost no power. Even the Chief Minister these days is Jat.

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But the president isn't is he? lol

Again, this thread isn't about Jatts or other Rajputs, it's about Janjuas.

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:bism: AAp sab bahion ko 14 August ke bohat bohat Mubarak aur sath hi kia ham aaj 14 Aug ko khoshi ka saath mana sakta hain, mere dil to khoon ka ansoo rota hai ka kia Pakistan is liya bana tha our jo kuch ham Pakistan ka saath kar rahin hain kia hum is kabil hain kaa is ki khoshi mana sakin.
Main British national hoon, Pakistan se shaid wahan rahnian walon se ziada piyar rakhta hoon…Tamam Pakistanion se iltija haa aur khas kar tamam Rajputoon se ka agar waqar aur azit se rahna hai to Pakistan raho yahan na British ban sako ga na Rajput, yahan to kuch aur hi ban jao ga, so apna mulk sa piyar karo aur wanhin rah kar taraki karo ga to Pakistan taraki kare ga.
Ya aik Pakistani aur Rajput ke request hai. Rab Rakha

Janjua Rajput Books?

Does anyone know of any good books about Janjua Rajput?

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what will you do by knowing


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i am new to all this and dont know if my reply is ok for posting

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Assalamoalikum,good to see a disscusion page dedicated GREAT JANJUA TRIBE, I myself am a Janjua(female) and Direct decedent of Rulers of Girjhakh,we still own landed and residential property in our historical family seat and village Pindisaid Pur, but we have adopted England as our second home,where current Diwans(our family title)are studing and running various businesses. We make frequent trips to our ancestral village and Aim to settle there very soon Inshallah. all the best to our brothren in noble blood,be proud and progess.