Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
Are you telling me Billy B was already at the scene carrying out crime investigation?
He was following Ahrarul-Hind, as soon as they ran away Billu Barber started his investigations.
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
Are you telling me Billy B was already at the scene carrying out crime investigation?
He was following Ahrarul-Hind, as soon as they ran away Billu Barber started his investigations.
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
When Pasha sahib say its okay to open NATO routes, then it is okay to open routes, but as soon as PTI/IK do it becomes issue of bad-kirdaari, corruption, dhokay baazi, a u-turn.
When Pasha sahib say bomb the sh!t out of Taliban then its okay to bomb your people, when PTI/IK agree to operation it becomes a u-turn.
The list goes on and on and on ![]()
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
Imran Khan has not said that he will act armed for the nation .
He will be armed only for the dissidents of Taliban ,
He is loyal for Taliban .
**Taliban ka Jo Ghadar hay
****Woh Maut ka haqdar hay
**
**Can you tell me ?
Which one of them can be Armed Imran ?
**
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The one in black is Billu Barber though ![]()
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
^ If I were in Imran's position, I'd go quiet about NWA operations or the counter terrorism policy of the government for the time being. Why does he need to divert criticism towards himself while clearly ths issue does not concern him? I can guarantee you the government does not have guts to go for NWA operations, but by issuing statements he is bailing the government out while eroding his political base. Win win situation for PMLN government. If he stays on the sidelines and PMLN does not go for all out operations, that would expose them once for all.
I am on the fence on this. Though staying quiet would benefit him, I think that his blabbering does tell us his political acumen so much so that educated folks aka burger bacha per BBZ don't make the mistake of giving pakistan to him the next time around. It is time to expect better from our leaders than just andhon may kaana raja.
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Well, by now we should know that the govt of pakistan(ISI, Army, civilian govt) only care about their policy of strategic depth and for that they are prepared to kill their own people evident by the killing of 50000 majority pukhtuns in the last decade. TTP is just a show, they are created by the ISI to achieve the long term strategic goals of the strategic depth. Now we know that Afghan Talibans are being either eliminated by afghan intelligence (e.g nasir haqqani) or the ones who want to speak to kabul are being killed by ISI. In the future years pakistanis shouldnot cry to afghans if they try to destablize paksitan. If pakistan gives itself the right to wreck havoc in Afghanistan then afghans will retaliate. The end goal for Pakistan is strategic depth in afghanistan and to achieve that they are prepared to kill pukhtuns in FATA, KPK and the rest of Pakistan.
If some can answer this simple questions, we all know that the leadership of afghan taliban is residing safely in pakistan and ISI knows where they are. How come they are not eliminated? if you wish yourself something good then also wish for another muslim. After all, pakistan was created on the basis of islam.
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
Are you afghan ?
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
Well, by now we should know that the govt of pakistan(ISI, Army, civilian govt) only care about their policy of strategic depth and for that they are prepared to kill their own people evident by the killing of 50000 majority pukhtuns in the last decade. TTP is just a show, they are created by the ISI to achieve the long term strategic goals of the strategic depth. Now we know that Afghan Talibans are being either eliminated by afghan intelligence (e.g nasir haqqani) or the ones who want to speak to kabul are being killed by ISI. In the future years pakistanis shouldnot cry to afghans if they try to destablize paksitan. If pakistan gives itself the right to wreck havoc in Afghanistan then afghans will retaliate. The end goal for Pakistan is strategic depth in afghanistan and to achieve that they are prepared to kill pukhtuns in FATA, KPK and the rest of Pakistan.
If some can answer this simple questions, we all know that the leadership of afghan taliban is residing safely in pakistan and ISI knows where they are. How come they are not eliminated? if you wish yourself something good then also wish for another muslim. After all, pakistan was created on the basis of islam.
Pakistan fingered Afghanistan because they were not able to establish peace on their own, while Afghanistan is poking nose in a stable Pakistan :p
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
Well, by now we should know that the govt of pakistan(ISI, Army, civilian govt) only care about their policy of strategic depth and for that they are prepared to kill their own people evident by the killing of 50000 majority pukhtuns in the last decade. TTP is just a show, they are created by the ISI to achieve the long term strategic goals of the strategic depth. Now we know that Afghan Talibans are being either eliminated by afghan intelligence (e.g nasir haqqani) or the ones who want to speak to kabul are being killed by ISI. In the future years pakistanis shouldnot cry to afghans if they try to destablize paksitan. If pakistan gives itself the right to wreck havoc in Afghanistan then afghans will retaliate. The end goal for Pakistan is strategic depth in afghanistan and to achieve that they are prepared to kill pukhtuns in FATA, KPK and the rest of Pakistan.
If some can answer this simple questions, we all know that the leadership of afghan taliban is residing safely in pakistan and ISI knows where they are. How come they are not eliminated? if you wish yourself something good then also wish for another muslim. After all, pakistan was created on the basis of islam.
Appriciate your post 1 . thanks for this side of picture . Please continue . The both countries even whole Islamic world should get rid from terrorism .
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Pakistan fingered Afghanistan because they were not able to establish peace on their own, while Afghanistan is poking nose in a stable Pakistan :p
stable pakistan?
Since 1947, pakistan has been at war with India at least four times and was disintegrated in 1971. It has had four rounds of baloch insurgencies. Karachi is burning along linguistic lines. Punjabies get murdered in balochistan. Sectarian violence is another example of a stable pakistan. Pukhtuns IDPs are not welcome in Punjab and sindh.
you try to hide from reality mate.
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stable pakistan?
Since 1947, pakistan has been at war with India at least four times and was disintegrated in 1971. It has had four rounds of baloch insurgencies. Karachi is burning along linguistic lines. Punjabies get murdered in balochistan. Sectarian violence is another example of a stable pakistan. Pukhtuns IDPs are not welcome in Punjab and sindh.
you try to hide from reality mate.
I don't know about punjab but sohrab goth is overflowing with afghans who shouldn't be in Pakistan in the first place if they hate it so much ?
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stable pakistan?
Since 1947, pakistan has been at war with India at least four times and was disintegrated in 1971. It has had four rounds of baloch insurgencies. Karachi is burning along linguistic lines. Punjabies get murdered in balochistan. Sectarian violence is another example of a stable pakistan. Pukhtuns IDPs are not welcome in Punjab and sindh. you try to hide from reality mate.
Yes , We are in trouble but still united and democratic , We are getting better day by day . We pray for a better Afghanistan too .
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I personally thing this is a non serious kind of statement. It's the prerogative of the army and state to respond to terrorists, if everyone starts retaliating on their own we will have a banana republic where the writ of the state is confined to presidential palaces.
I don't think it means he will literally take the arms and start fighting, it's more symbolic to send a strong message that we won't tolerate this madness which is completely fine and we do need bit of aggression from leadership. Like Amal, what i do have problem with is his statement that "All blame goes to America". I don't know why Imran needs to mention this when known terrorist groups have taken responsibility. Need to show lot more diplomacy in these kind of statements, these statements also help the propaganda spread by the extremists that this whole terrorism against innocent Pakistanis is in retaliation to American war in Afghanistan.
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stable pakistan?
Since 1947, pakistan has been at war with India at least four times and was disintegrated in 1971. It has had four rounds of baloch insurgencies. Karachi is burning along linguistic lines. Punjabies get murdered in balochistan. Sectarian violence is another example of a stable pakistan. Pukhtuns IDPs are not welcome in Punjab and sindh.
you try to hide from reality mate.
by stable Pakistan I mean a governance, one government over full Pakistan. Yes there were tough times but there is still one government. You can't compare Afghanistan of 1985-1993 with Pakistan, no way unless you take a microscope and find problems.
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... i do have problem with is his statement that "All blame goes to America". I don't know why Imran needs to mention this when known terrorist groups have taken responsibility. Need to show lot more diplomacy in these kind of statements, these statements also help the propaganda spread by the extremists that this whole terrorism against innocent Pakistanis is in retaliation to American war in Afghanistan.
Imran today clearly said that unless the US forces leave Afghanistan, peace cannot be established in Pakistan. Now what kind of a logic is this? The whole analogy and correlation put forward by Imran do not make any sense at all. It's an open invitation by him for anyone to rightly question his political wisdom and snooker his party.
Whenever there is a terror activity and Imran is speaking to the media, one could be sure that now the government will be instantly bailed out by the statement he is going to issue. Hating and blaming America for everything under the sun is just a self-inflicted injury and smacks of tunnel vision.
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
Imran today clearly said that unless the US forces leave Afghanistan, peace cannot be established in Pakistan. Now what kind of a logic is this? The whole analogy and correlation put forward by Imran do not make any sense at all. It's an open invitation by him for anyone to rightly question his political wisdom and snooker his party.
Whenever there is a terror activity and Imran is speaking to the media, one could be sure that now the government will be instantly bailed out by the statement he is going to issue. Hating and blaming America for everything under the sun is just a self-inflicted injury and smacks of tunnel vision.
With all due respect to Imran Khan and I don't question his honesty towards not only pakistan but the whole region. To put it in plain words, the situation is in the hands of ISI and they are playing with the lives of poor pukhtuns and they dont mind killing them to achieve their own strategic goals.
Even if I am wrong on the above statement, TTP is an enemy of pakistan and they will do their best to over run Islamabad and then continue their march onto punjab. Lets not forget that back in 2001 Afghan Talibans were sold by Pakistani govt (ISI, Army) to americans. It was pakistan that provided USA with basis. There are some elements within afghan taliban who would like to settle the score with pakistani amry and ISI. Pakistan is not in a easy position and innocent pukhtuns are paying the price. So even after US withdrawal pakistan will be in a weaker position because some groups would like to settle the scores with pakistan. I see a bloody future for pakistan and innocent Pukhtuns will be killed in hundred and thousands.
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These days even karzai is sounding Imran Khan… ![]()
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/03/afghanistan-war-interests-president-hamid-karzai
Expressing “extreme anger” toward the US government, Afghanistan’s president Hamid Karzai says the war in Afghanistan was not fought with his country’s interests in mind.
“Afghans died in a war that’s not ours,’ Karzai said in the interview with the Washington Post, published on Sunday, just a month before an election to pick his successor.
He was quoted as saying he was certain the 12-year-old war, launched after the attacks of 11 September, 2001, was “for the US security and for the western interest”.
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Brits have been saying the same thing for past decade.
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
‘Change’ due to stoppage of Ghost money’ and Imran is also looking for same .
Re: Anti-talks Taliban ‘to face armed Imran’
Brits have been saying the same thing for past decade.
While running around as a poodle to US plans in iraq, afghanistan and cooperating on WoT by retroactively ending citizenships of people who get droned by the US for being terrorists. Oh, before I forget, is there a law where your home ministry can detain people w/o telling them anything for 2 weeks for terror related offenses? If imran is all with that then a lot of people would be down with that! :D