Indian police arrest SP leader for ‘raising pro-Pakistan slogan’ - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
First college students get thrown out for supporting Pakistan in cricket matches in 2 universities. Then a Pakistani gets beaten up in India for being Pakistani. And now this.
Seriously whats with that. While a majority of Pakistanis (save for LET etc) are not as anti-Indian as they were 10 even 20 years ago, India seems to be on the opposite trajectory.
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I am pretty sure if this were to happen in Pakistan, there would be arrests too. People should be allowed to hold peaceful protests no matter what it is for. Are you forgetting what happened just weeks ago in Pakistan?
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Oh okay. So that makes it acceptable?
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In Pakistani Politics and in pakistani Public, india is not an issue. People are nt as anti indian as they used to b back in 90’s. But still indian politics revolves around Pakistan, which i realized in Indian elections, recently. Anyhow, it is so sad..
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Of course not. BUT you did imply Pakistan is not as anti-India as India is anti-Pakistani now, which is just not true.
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I find that hard to believe. India is a regional power. I doubt they really care about Pakistan besides it having a huge terrorism problems.
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How so? The examples you provided were local violence which had no role vis a vis India.
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you are absolutely wron. india is an regional power with 50 Crore people living below powerty line. Right? A regional power who is failed to handel pakistan. Go and read indian newspaperz , during election compaign. There is much more than what u think, baby
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Just one look at Youtube videos and you know the feelings of hate are mutual. Unless a survey is done, you won’t know. I remember about 6 or 7 years ago there was a show that was specifically about India-Pakistan issue and Pakistan came out more anti-India than India did anti-Pakistan.
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Rather than Condmning this bruital act, mister theorist is busy in defending india. Shabaash. 
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And I suppose you read Indian newspaper everyday? When I said India is a regional power, I meant that it had an impact on all surrounding countries in South Asia. It’s location and size are enough to cause an impact on all surrounding countries. Now if you are hell bent on pointing out India’s issues than that’s your problem. Let’s not forget handling such a huge population is a challenge that I am sure Pakistan will too fail miserably. It’s sad no matter where such things happen. Like I already said, people should be allowed to hold peaceful protests no matter what they are protesting.
FYI, I really don’t like anti-India/anti-Pakistan threads. If that’s the intent, I will close it. mod power
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u can never determing who is more anti indian or anti pakistani through a T.V show. Anti state scale of a nation is elections in which people give their opinion. In indian, anti Pakistani party won. But in Pakistan Pro Indian party won. That telz u the story
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I deal with a lot of indians at my workplace and they are fine with me normally but whenever it comes to India-Pakistan, man they literally turn their eyes around. Especially I noticed before last Indian elections, every single person whom I thought be a moderate person and friendly, didnt miss a single chance to show their hatred against pakistanis or muslims. Especially those who were talking high of Modi or BJP.
Its ironic cuz i dont think the relations can get better if the emotions are so antagonistic
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not at all, paki government in pro india, they have issues only against their own opposition political parties.
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good bad people are everywhere. But problem is anti pakistani incidents are happening constantly in india. This is third incident in last 6 months. While in pakistan , such incidents take place after 3, 4 years. Once in a blue moon. I am nt against india. I have friends frm india. But there are some facts, wethr u accept it or not
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Theorist concrete examples please. Also this show, who produced it etc? Every year thousands of Sikhs travel to Pakistan for religious pilgrimages on Indian Passports. Thank Allah none of them have been killed or attacked yet for being Indians.
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Pakistani elections of 2013 were, without a shadow of a doubt, the most documented and charged up elections in the history of the country. I challenge anyone to give examples of how mainstream parties of Pakistan (and candidates for the top spot) used anti-India rhetoric to work the crowd. Was India even part of any popular elections debate? I followed every single detail of the elections 2013 with keen and passionate interest, but there’s still a possibility that maybe I have missed out on something. But I clearly don’t remember PTI supporters being called Indian agents, nor PMLN voters were told to move to India.
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I can’t speak of police actions. The guy was also drunk. Not a good image for an elected leader. There is more censorship it seems these days which i disagree with and i also disagree with someone being arrested for saying what he said even if he says murdabad to the PM of the country and was accused of extorting passers by.
A lot of people disagreed with the students from Kashmir on scholarship who faced trouble by university because they cheered for Pakistan. Charges against them were dropped. Kashmir’s Students Charged With Sedition By India For Cheering For Pakistan In A Cricket Game; Charge Subsequently Dropped This was during election time and the SP party you mentioned earlier were in charge of the state where these students were dismissed. The same party where the leader you mention gets arrested for the slogans was responsible for the students getting expelled.
You can’t judge the citizens of a country and say they are anti-Pakistani based on the actions of government officials/police/authority figures.
I also feel extremely bad for what happened to the Pakistani student. I hope those who did that were punished. Yet, at the same time many of his Indian friends rallied around him and he said he would go back to India again as he made so many friends. He said he felt at home here after some time. Here is an interview of the student who was attacked.
Police also say it may have been a case of mistaken identity as many students had vacated the hostel for holidays but he was there. Indian police clueless after attack on Pakistani student - Pakistan - DAWN.COM It could have been because of prejudice. There are also many stories of Pakistani students who enjoyed their experience in India. A Pakistani student in India - thenews.com.pk
It was a novelty for my classmates to interact with someone from across the border. They took the liberty of satisfying their curiosity about life in Pakistan and about the ‘Real Pakistan’, which is generally not how it is depicted in Indian films and by the Indian media. While they asked me about Pakistan, I learnt about India and its rich multi-faceted social, cultural, religious and political ethos.
**My teachers at JNU were very supportive. They encouraged me every step of the way and never treated me any differently for being a Pakistani. On the contrary, I was always treated as just another student expected to do his best while going through the various components of the Masters Program. The course was completed over four semesters, two per year. Each year, we had to go through a process of [registration
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While i agree there are ignorant people in India because there has not been as much cultural exchange with Pakistan, the fact that a new Indian channel is showing exclusively Pakistani dramas first before dramas of other countries is a sign in the opposite direction. It was made explicitly obvious in the channel launch that Pakistani dramas are being shown. There was great appreciation for Pakistani dramas of the past like Dhoop Kinare. Pakistani band Soch wrote a song for Bollywood movie Ek Villain and there are many Pakistani singers performing in Bollywood. Reality shows feature Pakistani judges and contestants which the common person appreciates. Pakistani contestants have performed patriotic pakistani songs on reality shows with no dramas. -Aye Watan Pak Watan- Song In India’s Show - Video Dailymotion](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x190qto_aye-watan-pak-watan-song-in-india-s-show_creation)
I heard no obvious threats against this channel for screening Pakistani dramas. In fact billboards for the channel are all main cities.
Also i can give you many articles of Pakistani students having a positive experience.
Indian hospitality floors Pak students - The Hindu
I’d say the Indian media is more paranoid and alarmist but would not generalise for Indians. I think there is paranoia on both sides. There are fb pages calling for Pakistani artists to boycott Bollywood and for Bollywood movies to be banned with many members. How does it affect anyone else if Pakistani artists want to work in Bollywood? Is it wrong for a Canadian actor or Australian actor to work in Hollywood and have access to a larger market.
While only a minority of extremists in India are asking for Pakistani singers to not be allowed in India they have been unsuccessful in their attempts. I watch humtv and i know many Indians who do. Never has anyone told me not to watch or listen to Pakistani content.
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There are 2 choices in an election. People choose who they think will benefit them. Economy and development were the main issues not foreign affairs. The alternate was a corrupt government with an unknown inexperienced leader. While i’m not happy with the current party i hardly think the alternative who have been ruling for 10 years were pro-Pakistani. They all have same policies towards Pakistan. In any case both alternatives were unknowns. Manmohan Singh refused to stand for election so the alternative was Rahul Gandhi who people don’t like. It didn’t have anything to do with Pakistan. Also you don’t need a majority of people to vote in a government. I think in Pakistan there are also 2 main parties who mostly win as well. It’s not all negative though India has given MFN status to Pakistan and also 5 milllion during the earthquake in 2010. It’s not much but shows all is not negative. Also see loosening of visa restrictions during medical treatment for Pakistani patients. Political point scoring happens during election time which is wrong and then they make gestures like inviting PMs for swearing in ceremonies, travelling to the other country by bus and giving speeches etc. No one has opposed the channels showing Pakistani dramas yet or said anything about billboards advertising the dramas all over in main cities.
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I think Veena Malik also tweeted that last year. I guess making broad generalisations is in. Guess you must not have watched that episode where a Pakistani reality contestant sang a patriotic Pakistani song on Indian tv and it was appreciated. I am unaware of whether Saare Jahan se accha by Iqbal has been sung on a Pakistani singing show by an Indian singer.
-Aye Watan Pak Watan- Song In India’s Show - Video Dailymotion](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x190qto_aye-watan-pak-watan-song-in-india-s-show_creation)
You must also not know about medical tourism where some Pakistani patients, rather than having to spend time and money going to faraway countries which can affect health or wait in long queues, have any visa issues looked after so they can get treated in India. I’ll give a few examples but i won’t put too many external links as it’s not allowed. Even in times of border tension this medical tourism continued.
Indian doctors help Pakistani patients - Los Angeles Times
For Pakistanis with serious health problems, neighboring India offers high success rates. And although many Pakistanis arrive in India fearful — textbooks, officials and the media in both countries spread distrust — they come away from the experience with the realization that they have a lot more in common with Indians than they expected.
“I thought they’d be mean to us, think we were the enemy,” Sarfraz said. “But we met many nice people who even bought food for us. You don’t behave like that if you harbor hate in your heart.”
Friends and relatives back home can be even warier, sometimes expressing concern before a heart transplant that their loved ones will get an Indian heart.
“How ridiculous! A heart is a heart no matter where it comes from,” countered Nida Rashid, a British-educated journalist from Lahore whose aunt recently had a liver transplant. “But if you’re educated in Pakistani schools, taught to hate anything India in the textbooks, you have this sort of thinking. It’s high time people realize that India has a lot to offer and they should make use of it.”
Patients have come for liver transplants, kidney transplants, thalassemia treatment etc
This is a recent article from June 25th 2014 about a boy who was suffering from end stage kidney and liver disease. The cost of treatment was too great in countries like Singapore, China, US and UK. There was no treatment available for it in Pakistan. In Delhi he got new lease of life.
Love beyond borders: Pakistani boy gets ‘new life’ in India - Firstpost
“We had lost hope. My son has got a new lease of life. I thank the doctors in India. They are so helpful and compassionate,” Amaar’s mother Unaiza Haider IANS.
She got emotional and said the warmth and support that she got in India is diametrically opposite to the general perception about the relations between the two countries.
“Whenever I ask about the condition of Amaar, the doctor’s reply was that Amaar is like my son, we will do our best,” said the mother.
“We also tried hospitals in Singapore, China, America and some other countries. China we don’t trust. Singapore, US was too expensive. We opted for India, because it is much cheaper and quality is good,” Haider told IANS.
I’m not really interested in digging up negatives of tourists visiting Pakistan because Pakistanis also reciprocate this hospitality. Rather i’d like to focus on positive interactions Pakistanis have had who have visited India. I wouldn’t really hold my breath that the above would be reported on Pakistani media channels. It would make Indians seem like humans which isn’t allowed i guess. Better to just generalise and hate us instead :k:
