anti Pakistani and anti Islamic bollywood filmz *mad* *fuming*

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^ No offense taken.:)

I read a msg which said 'muslims in India have to be anti-Islam to prove their loyalty to the majority' or some similar shyt. You're saying the same. I don't know if FK is a 'good' muslim, but I'd bet you not one non-muslim in India would have a clue when FK insults Islam in the movie, as this thread is about. Do you think an average hindu/christian, whatever is aware that ayaan should not be read by the villian? Really...

Feroze khan has made many normal movies. He's rich. I hardly think he'd say today, 'Hey son, how about we make this assinine anti-Islam movie which the non-muslims will love. That way we'll get richer and you'd get a lift in your career.' Really...

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*Originally posted by karina: *
^ No offense taken.:)

I read a msg which said 'muslims in India have to be anti-Islam to prove their loyalty to the majority' or some similar shyt. You're saying the same. I don't know if FK is a 'good' muslim, but I'd bet you not one non-muslim in India would have a clue when FK insults Islam in the movie, as this thread is about. Do you think an average hindu/christian, whatever is aware that ayaan should not be read by the villian? Really...

Feroze khan has made many normal movies. He's rich. I hardly think he'd say today, 'Hey son, how about we make this assinine anti-Islam movie which the non-muslims will love. That way we'll get richer and you'd get a lift in your career.' Really...
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Hey :)

Good.

No. I think you are misinterpreting my post into more than it really implies. I am in no way a perfect human being neither do I claim to be a perfect muslim however, I do have enough sense to know that anyone who openly drinks for instance, can not be following Islam to the T. It is only but common sense. :)

I have not watched the movie so I can't claim a part in the movie which could've offended some here. I do however know for a fact that getting ppl riled up emotionally pays big bucks. I know that Indian ppl are very patriotic to the degree that they are xenophobic without ever realizing it. I am sure FK wouldn't say to his son, "Lets make a non-muslim movie" per say.. but its common sense to put profit above and beyond anything else. Too bad that people's emotions can be manipulated so easily, esp. those of South India be it Indians or Pakistani - A fact nonetheless is a fact! To put it in simpler terms of comprehension, "Yes! I believe that this chain of Anti-Pakistani/Muslim movies for a while is but a commercial facade and ppl fall for the propaganda."

Nice to chat ya.

:)

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What anti-Pak, anti-muslim movies? You're over reacting. Bollywood makes 5 ant-Pak movies and you act like the numbers 5000. What about movies like Bombay, Henna, and this serial called Sarhaden which showed a Pakistani marrying an Indian, and even converting her. Did you see anyone in India breaking bottles and calling it anti-India or anti-hindu?

You guys are so immature.

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*Originally posted by karina: *
What anti-Pak, anti-muslim movies? You're over reacting. Bollywood makes 5 ant-Pak movies and you act like the numbers 5000. What about movies like Bombay, Henna, and this serial called Sarhaden which showed a Pakistani marrying an Indian, and even converting her. Did you see anyone in India breaking bottles and calling it anti-India or anti-hindu?

You guys are so immature.
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Before you assume and argue, point out exactly where I said that all Indian movies are anti-Pakistani/Muslim.

As I told you before I don't care for Indian movies neither do I care for Pakistani movies but that is besides the point. I feel that just like you I have a right to an opinion without being mocked. In my humble opinion I think the addicting nature of the Indian movies are not only bad for our morale but also for our economy. Haven't you ever heard, "Be (insert citizenship), Buy (insert Country)"??? I am only being patriotic as you claim to be! Tell me what is wrong with that?

As for being immature grinz I dare not open my mouth without having researched into an arguement. I may be immature and stupid for I love my country and will defend it regardless of what is thought of it. But since you are so liberal and secular tell me in your average 10.98 posts why every single post (if not every second) of yours is 'pro-Hindu/India' and degrading anyone and everyone who cares to discuss this with you? Why do you feel the need to use that biting sarcasm in a condescending manner with any Pakistani who tries to confront you of your haterd towards Pakistani / Muslim ppl?

You said: Sometimes I wonder why is it that the 10% cannot learn to accept and respect the 90% 's way of life?

In response to: FRANCE has 10 % muslim population and it will be only a matter of time when the french will learn to respect and accept the muslim way of life

x-x-x

You said: why do you guys even bother to present arguments when you know what malik's and ak47's agenda is? They would love it if a few more gujrats happened.

Long live democracy, long live the democratic process, long live India!

Yet your every single post is hypocritically assessing, judging, and mocking ppl with differing views

I do not come on a message board to put any flags up for my country neither do I care to spend my days and nights bickering about India/Pakistan rivalry or being petty by correcting spelling mistakes/typos. However, I have and always indulge in a conversation if I deem necessary and will expect the same respect as I give others. No Pun Intended! :)

I have a lot of Indian friends among other nationalities and in no way do I hold any grudges against people due to their race and/or nationality. With that said, I extend a hand in friendship and hope that you will practice what you preach!

Takecare :0

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*Originally posted by xcape: *

Hey :)

Good.

No. I think you are misinterpreting my post into more than it really implies. I am in no way a perfect human being neither do I claim to be a perfect muslim however, I do have enough sense to know that anyone who openly drinks for instance, can not be following Islam to the T. It is only but common sense. :)

I have not watched the movie so I can't claim a part in the movie which could've offended some here. I do however know for a fact that getting ppl riled up emotionally pays big bucks. I know that Indian ppl are very patriotic to the degree that they are xenophobic without ever realizing it. I am sure FK wouldn't say to his son, "Lets make a non-muslim movie" per say.. but its common sense to put profit above and beyond anything else. Too bad that people's emotions can be manipulated so easily, esp. those of South India be it Indians or Pakistani - A fact nonetheless is a fact! To put it in simpler terms of comprehension, "Yes! I believe that this chain of Anti-Pakistani/Muslim movies for a while is but a commercial facade and ppl fall for the propaganda."

Nice to chat ya.

:)
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A nice one you cracked here. Such movies are a big flop in India. This FK movie is gonna be a big flop too..like others of it's kind. Kareena is right about Bombay, Henna etc. Those movies promoted unity and were successful on the box-office too.
And such anti-pak/islam movies are like very less in number when you see the whole picture. I have given the approximate numbers long back in the same thread.

Bottomline being.. anti-pak movies are not what Indian public wants to see. They would rather watch Shahrukh, Saif, Amir etc dancing around the trees than some crappy flick about Sunny Deol saving India from pak, china, sri-lanka or even bhutan.

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Hey ChandBeti,

Cute nick.

Thanks for the sarcasm. Tell me is this a trait all of you posses or just the emotional ones on this forum? :hehe:

You are right. Most of the public probably rather watch Shahrukh swinging from a tree or Amir prancing around but there are instances like “Gadar,” who make me feel otherwise. I know that anytime any movie/play/whatever is successful in South Asia they start following the same story line. As in, we saw a flood of violent anti-Paki movies right after Gadar hoping to bring in the moolah by giving ppl a rise emotionally and sometimes they were successful.

Anyways nice to have met you.

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errr .. now I cannot even get angry on ya, you liking my nick and all has melted me down. :-p

Well, to be serious. Yes, maybe teh success of Gadar sparked this chain of anti-pak crap( which btw no one gives a damn about). But believe me the common man in India seeks good entertainment( as a normal human-being would). A handful few might get their jollies from seeing the neighbours mucked in mud, but most have no care for it.
Give them a few good songs, a few good tear jerking scenes and they would watch the movie like for 1258.9 times. Us simple Indians!..very similar to our neighbors I am sure. :)

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*Originally posted by xcape: *

You said: Sometimes I wonder why is it that the 10% cannot learn to accept and respect the 90% 's way of life?

In response to: FRANCE has 10 % muslim population and it will be only a matter of time when the french will learn to respect and accept the muslim way of life

x-x-x

You said: why do you guys even bother to present arguments when you know what malik's and ak47's agenda is? They would love it if a few more gujrats happened.

Long live democracy, long live the democratic process, long live India!

Yet your every single post is hypocritically assessing, judging, and mocking ppl with differing views

I have a lot of Indian friends among other nationalities and in no way do I hold any grudges against people due to their race and/or nationality. With that said, I extend a hand in friendship and hope that you will practice what you preach!

Takecare :0
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Answer to my first quote - The minority should respect the majority's wishes, especially if it is not your own country. I live in the US and I am perfectly happy if tomorrow they ban all hindu symbols from schools. If I don't like it I can always go back to India. This is the way I feel and when I posted my comment it was not sarcasm or hatred but the truth as I see it.

Answer to my second comment - Read all the anti-hindu, anti-India threads started by certain gentlemen and you'll know what I'm talking about. If you see only one side of the pic that's fine with me - you have a right to your opinion.

Who told you I hold a grudge against you or anyone? On the contrary you sound as if you have a deep grudge against Indians and their culture and their movies creeping in across the border. YOu sound bitter, and you sense conspiracies in innocent sentences. I don't want to fight with you.

Pleased to meet you too. :)

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Chandbeti: *
^
errr .. now I cannot even get angry on ya, you liking my nick and all has melted me down. :-p

Well, to be serious. Yes, maybe teh success of Gadar sparked this chain of anti-pak crap( which btw no one gives a damn about). But believe me the common man in India seeks good entertainment( as a normal human-being would). A handful few might get their jollies from seeing the neighbours mucked in mud, but most have no care for it.
Give them a few good songs, a few good tear jerking scenes and they would watch the movie like for 1258.9 times. Us simple Indians!..very similar to our neighbors I am sure. :)
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Hey,

LOL! Flattery - always work like a charm. j/k No seriously no 'buttering' intended :) I was thinking of a creative nick and all I came up with would fit in here so I just went with 'xcape'. Is it just me or is registering on this site a pain? Everytime I picked a nick that already existed, I had to start all over again!!!

It is sad that ppl would fall for such petty games. I can see a illiterate go for such mud-slinging but for a literate and assumingly mature person to go for such is truely ironic.

Anyways, tell me something about yourself. :)

Later

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Hello there righteous one!

You just love to argue? Don’t you? Rhetorical - I think in my short time I already know the answer to that :d

One one hand you talk about democracy in Pakistan - then bash the ‘Islamic System’ with certainity, projecting it can never give equal rights to namely Hindus, Shias (which mind you are not such a minority), christians, ect - not to mention claiming India to be a secular state being proud of it yet critisizing Muslim minorities abroad that want to follow a non-judgemental govt.? (or ban all hindu symbols from schools aka burn a temple in Pakistan which you had an objection to earlier)

Tell me which of these things you were ‘sincerely’ debating! No wait, I do not want another long winded explaination to this. Just tell me why would you defend your country to the degree that it seems like you are degrading others? Why must you pick a snide comment to go with anyone who tries to make sense with you? Agreed - you have a lot of political general knowledge and a belligerant persona to boot but that doesn’t mean that you should shoot down anyone who tries to differ in opinion nor posses the same insight into matters.

I think respect is a two way street you giveth and receive.

I may be ‘immature’ as you say but tell me for I am forever lost in these paradoxial statements you throw once too often -

Firstly, you sounded like you were berating other ppl namely Pakistani ppl for having an opinion. I am new to this forum so am unaware of whatever politics conspires here.. and am totally oblivious to whatever prompted this array of attacks. As for knowing the gentlemen in question that you seem to have a hmm.. whats another word for ‘grudge’?? Yet you tell me that you do not have a grudge against me or anyone else??? I am lost as ever must be all the contradictions. :slight_smile:

Secondly, Karina dearest :nono1: I would definately take a hardcore look at myself before I go around judging and assuming. For the record, I am not bitter! :slight_smile: How could I be? I’ve only been here like a week or so? I have no desire to fight with you because thats not why I came here. Although, I hope you’d be just a bit more respectful and don’t judge ppl based on perceptions. Not all Pakistanis are stupid, not all of them are going to disagree with you, and not all of Pakistanis deserve to be generalized in the same stereotypical manner as you do the handful who converse with you on this message board. i.e.

As for the innocent sentences, here is one that caught my eye:

See where I got this ‘illusion’ that you are somewhat biased?

I am 21 yrs old btw. How old are you?

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But the thing is why watch them in the first place. Its all good and well in complaining about how they are anti-Islamic, but you shouldn't watch them at all.
I ain't no bearded mullah or anything but it shocks me that so many muslims go out and watch these bullsh*t films.

My reasons for not watching them;

  1. If you watch them, you are funding the Indian army. Fact. Remember Kargil when a lot of leading Bollywood actors donated money to the army. So you are indirectly funding your own brothers and sisters in Kashmir to be killed. Well done.

  2. So many are blatantly anti-Islamic and anti-Paki yet we still watch them.

  3. So much filth in them nowadays, don't you feel embarassed if you're with your family.

  4. The amount of times I've heard the word Allah used in vain in songs is unbelievable. Very offensive to muslims.

  5. They are all crap these days anyway.

And if you still want to watch them, you have to find a way in which you don't pay a penny for them. I, myself, have to admit I enjoy the Amitabh oldies but I make sure I never pay for them. Just borrow them from friends.

But to be honest I'd rather castrate my dog and bung his bits into the oven for a tasty alternative to meatballs, than watch Bollywood movies these days.

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:rotfl: eid mubarak mate :smiley:

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Eid Mubarak to you aswell.

Take note of what I said though.

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yeah i did spot on... but man i am addat sai majbur

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and yet we still support the bollywood industry buy renting these movies, buying them, etc.

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thankfully a growing number of people now looks at them in disdain. mostly the emerging educated under 25s. most of my friends absolutely abhor them as do i. if only my roommate would get with the program :(

in all seriousness they truly are the worst tripe you could spurn your noble sentiments of patriotism for.

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What about the hollywood movies ..... you guys watch the hollywood movies .....

if you watch them you are funding the US army .......

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Wasnt Janasheen made by Feroz Khan who is a Muslim and picturised in Afghanistan

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*Originally posted by maihu_don: *
What about the hollywood movies ..... you guys watch the hollywood movies .....

if you watch them you are funding the US army .......
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99% of Hollywood movie makers are liberal and anti war. So i don't think it works the same way.

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I don’t watch em anyway.. I dont understand why someone would even want to look at them.. :snooty: