you are sadly mistaken.in Pakistan everyone tolerates everyone.
you have never been to Pakistan so stop playing a Pakistani.
All your posts are negative and full of propoganda and hidden motives and agendas.
There has always been foreign hand behind few sad incidents.
Muslim is Muslims brother and he will never hurt him.
here's your tolerance. thanks for sharing.
stop sharing cult videos will you
this cult/ngo dosent even represents 0.01 percent of Pakistani population.so pls stop it.
mods why u have double standards??
the scholar in this video is unknown and dosent represents any Sect of Islam and pls stop calling mirzaiyat a sect.its a cult or an NGO.THE head office is in england and branches in different countries
sorry brother but i dont understand.pls explain.
mirzaiyyat is a cult or an NGO and the way they are cashing in the recent terrorist attack is proof of it they are doing politics over dead.
pls stop this dirty tactics.
i think law enforcement should involve the senior qadiani office bearers in Pakistan cause the way they are using the event ,it looks like an inside job.
there is no harm in investigating mirza ghulam ahmed the country manager of Ahmediyyat Organisation..
Dont make people fool.What american govt has done with cults is known to all.
remember david koresh and what happened to him?there are too many similarities between david koresh and mirza ghulam qadiani the founder of this Ngo
mirzaees who love calling them ahmedis started conspiring after the speech of Bin gorion the head of israeli occupation who said Pakistan is their target and not arabs.This is why mirzaees have their branch in haifa israel where they conspire to destablise Pakistan.All the terrorist activities in Pakistan are funded by israel and india.
search on youtube ahmediyyat israel and u will see qadiani Ngo's country manager in haifa,israel meeting and having dinner with Shimon Peres the war criminal and president of israel.
mirzaees also serve in israeli defence forces.google for credible unbiased sources.
^i am not being personal.i know israr ahmed.but u were referring to other person he is unknown
Recent attacks on the qadiani pagoda looks like an inside job funded by israel.There is branch of qadiani Ngo in haifa,Israel.
I am sure they planned it to hurt the image of Pakistan.
Wether they be muslims or Mirzaees,they were Pakistanis and govt should look into the Ngo's internal affairs and question branch manager or Qadiani Ngo.
Punjab Police ka chitar is the remedy
pls google for qadiani ties with israel for unbiased sources
if a person defends discrimination based on religion, etc in the country of his birth, does he really have a right to biatch about equal rights in another country or the country that he currently resides in?
Philosophically on this point you and I are in complete agreement. I understand what you are getting at.
technically he does have a right, his rights in one country dont get impacted due to the support of pathetic views in another, whether its a Saudi in UK, a Pakistani in Canada, Indian in Australia or Israeli in US. (if they support crappy practices of their countries)
I absolutely agree with the two of you. There are some hypocrites who keep biatching about how discriminating some Pakistanis are, but won't condemn discrimination against Muslims when it is their friends from United States of Utopia do it.
This just shows their true colors.
Interesting thing about biatching of these hypocrites is that even their examples of discrimination in Pakistan actually discriminate against certain minority groups.
Of course, none of us here in this thread is such a biatching hypocrite.
Problem in this issue is not just allowing a mosque to build. Rather the problem is to stop the construction because these fanatics think that those terrorists represented Islam and Muslims in general.
Its funny how the extreme right wing papers like (New York Post, Daily News, etc) were putting it into light and the major paper New York Times didn't have much on it about that.
those right wing papers were empahzing 9/11, terrorism , yada yada...all propagandists.
The Imam of the mosque had to say that the first amendment guarentees the right to speech, press, and the right to assemble which was one of the points he had to get across the audiance.
you are sadly mistaken.in Pakistan everyone tolerates everyone.
you have never been to Pakistan so stop playing a Pakistani.
All your posts are negative and full of propoganda and hidden motives and agendas.
There has always been foreign hand behind few sad incidents.
Muslim is Muslims brother and he will never hurt him.
I don't want to divert the thread into other discussion but its better to introspect instead of pointing outside for every problem that happens in our land. Once we start to examine we will find solutions to the problems otherwise we will remain like ostrich buying its head in the sand.
Samb, I read all your postings. Postings with sense. But your fellow brothers wont accept. Because for them,
If a demonstration happened in a country against a Building which touches against the emotions of the majority communinty ; then that is brutal discrimanation and it is more severe crime than ,
a. Burning churches and killing minorities in their Mosques
b. Naming its own people as second class citizen in the constitution itself
c. Killing or looting minorities if they donot agree to convert.
The most sarcastic thing is that these people think "all those incidents happened in Pakistan ,and we Pakistanis will take care that . But the demonstration happened in America and not Americans but we Pakistanis will take care of that "
Congrats for your valient fight against these hypocrites.
it is not very smart of us to beech about equal rights, secularism in other countries while we defend discriminatory black laws in our own country.
and on same note, its not very smart of americans to beech about liberty, secularism, democracy and equal rights in other countries while their grass-rot politicians are so against one religion in their own country. Two wrongs dont make a right my friend.
Having said this, I think I understand what a normal american feels about 9/11 and Muslim organizations should not take confrontational route on this very touchy matter.
AA all
I'm from the UK but can relate to what is being discussed here. We also have a strong anti-Islam feeling here in Europe.
Regarding the mosque, and what samb was saying, we have to remember yes Pakistan does have it's faults and does not protect it's minorities properly but we do not live in Pakistan anymore. If we have chosen to live overseas we have to try to fix the problems/issues that affect us. Pakistan is a Nation, Islam is a global religion. Therefore it's not only Pakistanis that will be affected by anti-Islam feelings or a ban on mosques for example..therefore I don't think the argument for pakistanis to sort out their own house before they protest against this stands...
AA all
I'm from the UK but can relate to what is being discussed here. We also have a strong anti-Islam feeling here in Europe.
Regarding the mosque, and what samb was saying, we have to remember yes Pakistan does have it's faults and does not protect it's minorities properly but we do not live in Pakistan anymore. If we have chosen to live overseas we have to try to fix the problems/issues that affect us. Pakistan is a Nation, Islam is a global religion. Therefore it's not only Pakistanis that will be affected by anti-Islam feelings or a ban on mosques for example..therefore I don't think the argument for pakistanis to sort out their own house before they protest against this stands...
*Why even bring Pakistan or what Pakistan does or does not do, in to this discussion?
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Discussion was about building of masjid in NY.
I agree and that's what I was trying to say... However it seems to have been brought up in this discussion before...I was trying to emphasise the point of this issue being more than what happens or does not happen in Pakistan...